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[shajaki]

Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?

You could always buy another Alpha Bravo

[Va'al]

Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?

In the age of online sales [...] [w]hen you release a figure, you release it to the world. Every online retailer and their mother has them for sale.

One of these is not the same as the other.

[peaces]

i blame the strike

[SW's SilverHammer]

Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?

In the age of online sales [...] [w]hen you release a figure, you release it to the world. Every online retailer and their mother has them for sale.

One of these is not the same as the other.

Hmmmm, It's brick and mortar store because they suck.

[RhA]

Quickslinger and Brake Neck have been, jawohl, shipped. Now the wait starts.

[Deadput]

Hey guys the missile by Superion's hand says "To punish and enslave"





Combiner wars Barricade confirmed?

[fenrir72]

Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?

[Va'al]

Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

You hurt me.

[fenrir72]

Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

You hurt me.

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?

[Va'al]

Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

You hurt me.

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?

Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Hey guys the missile by Superion's hand says "To punish and enslave"





Combiner wars Barricade confirmed?

It's an Easter Egg probably, as such has little meaning.

[fenrir72]

Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

You hurt me.

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?

Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.

So the product is like a space filler? The way naked white UM from the Classics line was? Optimus was walking down Iacon lane and a batch of nano bleaching bots fell on him and bleached his armor white ?

Seriously though, the un-character did intrigue me. TT isgoing for propbably a more g1 color scheme while domestic Hasbro is.....?

[Va'al]

Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

You hurt me.

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?

Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.

So the product is like a space filler? The way naked white UM from the Classics line was?

As I said, with the current storyline, probably.
(Plus, Rodimus is in MTMTE with Ambus/Magnus - so neither the white Prime nor the chest Blackjack redeco fit in-story.)

[SW's SilverHammer]

Quickslinger and Brake Neck have been, jawohl, shipped. Now the wait starts.

Yup Amazon says I'll get mine, thursday!? Why have you forsaken me two day shipping!

[Diem]

I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.

[Sabrblade]

[Snip]
Ok, this is a half baked thought and I may be off base. I find it interesting or maybe puzzling that they used the word courage on the Decepticon poster.

I would normally associate courage as a positive descriptor and wouldn't associate it with the "bad guys". Of course, good/bad is determinded by which side of the fence you're on. In the current comics they are exploring the idea that both sides of the war did terrible things, but the 'Cons were still way more ruthless.

I don't know? I'm having a hard time finishing this thought. Maybe some of you could help me fully bake it or add some of your insight?

I don't think you are way off base. Indeed, it is hard to associate positive traits to those seen as "evil." But, I think of some characters and some situations. Storm Shadow in G.I. Joe seemed to be one who was on the wrong side. But I would associate courage and honor with him. Indeed, even Megatron showed honor at times. *shrug* It does seem a little weird to associate it with Menasor. Courage is action in the face of fear, not the absence of fear. To me, Menasor more really didn't care about danger or think about fear. "Fearless" or "reckless" would seem to be better terms...

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?

Do you mean the white redeco of Voyager Optimus? That's Optimus Maximus, whose identity is stil a mystery at this point, but I'm growing more and more into thinking he might just be a powered-up form of Optimus Prime. Though it remains to be seen if this thing will appear in the comics or not.

[Optimizzy]

I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.

Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.

[Diem]

I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.

Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.

That part is more understandable since Reflector looks to have several paint apps by himself. But the fact that even the 'Con logos are different styles (bordered and unbordered)

If they release a Kickback I hope that he winds up with slightly different tones. If two of them look the same and the third doesn't that would be a bit rubbish.

[no-one]

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.

But what Agamemnon said about honor was the missing piece of the pie for me. Thanks BTW!

I like that they are playing with the notions of right and wrong. War especially has many shades of grey. I've just picked up the missing RID and MTMTE comics from the recent IDW sale. I'm very excited to get to the CW issues.

[Sabrblade]

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.

It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.

[Diem]

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.

It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.

Harsh indictment on the horrors that a lifetime of ceaseless war can inflict on even the most positive of individuals or pulled-from-arse, "edgy" out-of-character moment during an already poorly-scripted era of the comic? YOU DECIDE.

But anyway, yeah, "courage" is a very weird adjective to ascribe to Menasor. Particularly since he's one-fifth Breakdown. But then "courage" is a really weird trait to emphasize for giant gestalt robots anyway. Bravery is not exactly an issue when one is multiple times the size of one's foes.

[Optimizzy]

I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.

Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.

That part is more understandable since Reflector looks to have several paint apps by himself. But the fact that even the 'Con logos are different styles (bordered and unbordered)

If they release a Kickback I hope that he winds up with slightly different tones. If two of them look the same and the third doesn't that would be a bit rubbish.

I'm hoping kickback will have a scheme that links them both together so they look cohesive.

[fenrir72]

[Snip]
Ok, this is a half baked thought and I may be off base. I find it interesting or maybe puzzling that they used the word courage on the Decepticon poster.

I would normally associate courage as a positive descriptor and wouldn't associate it with the "bad guys". Of course, good/bad is determinded by which side of the fence you're on. In the current comics they are exploring the idea that both sides of the war did terrible things, but the 'Cons were still way more ruthless.

I don't know? I'm having a hard time finishing this thought. Maybe some of you could help me fully bake it or add some of your insight?

I don't think you are way off base. Indeed, it is hard to associate positive traits to those seen as "evil." But, I think of some characters and some situations. Storm Shadow in G.I. Joe seemed to be one who was on the wrong side. But I would associate courage and honor with him. Indeed, even Megatron showed honor at times. *shrug* It does seem a little weird to associate it with Menasor. Courage is action in the face of fear, not the absence of fear. To me, Menasor more really didn't care about danger or think about fear. "Fearless" or "reckless" would seem to be better terms...

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?

Do you mean the white redeco of Voyager Optimus? That's Optimus Maximus, whose identity is stil a mystery at this point, but I'm growing more and more into thinking he might just be a powered-up form of Optimus Prime. Though it remains to be seen if this thing will appear in the comics or not.

Bullesye! But the "Albedo" effect. I wonder what cockamamie explanation IDW will come up with. As there is no more "white" UM in their universe.......maybe the original UM coming back?

[no-one]

Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.

It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.

Thanks. You are truly a venerable encyclopedia of transformer knowledge.

[Sabrblade]

Bullesye! But the "Albedo" effect. I wonder what cockamamie explanation IDW will come up with. As there is no more "white" UM in their universe.......maybe the original UM coming back?

Could just be an enhanced form granted augmented by the Enigma or something.