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Postby shajaki » Sun May 24, 2015 2:59 pm

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Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?
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Postby Va'al » Sun May 24, 2015 3:00 pm

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Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?


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Postby peaces » Sun May 24, 2015 3:12 pm

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Postby SW's SilverHammer » Sun May 24, 2015 3:16 pm

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Rated X wrote:Gotta love the way they are promoting a wave of toys that you cant even find in stores. (Wave 2) I saw the stunticons once and jumped on them but I still need a damn Air Raid. WTF ? When is wave 2 gonna drop in stores by the masses ?


In the age of online sales [...] [w]hen you release a figure, you release it to the world. Every online retailer and their mother has them for sale.



One of these is not the same as the other.


Hmmmm, It's brick and mortar store because they suck.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RhA » Sun May 24, 2015 3:33 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Sun May 24, 2015 3:52 pm

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Hey guys the missile by Superion's hand says "To punish and enslave"





Combiner wars Barricade confirmed?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun May 24, 2015 3:54 pm

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Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sun May 24, 2015 3:57 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun May 24, 2015 4:02 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.


You hurt me.
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Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sun May 24, 2015 4:05 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.


You hurt me.
:grin:

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?


Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Sun May 24, 2015 4:09 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Hey guys the missile by Superion's hand says "To punish and enslave"





Combiner wars Barricade confirmed?


It's an Easter Egg probably, as such has little meaning.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun May 24, 2015 4:10 pm

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Va'al wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.


You hurt me.
:grin:

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?


Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.


So the product is like a space filler? The way naked white UM from the Classics line was? Optimus was walking down Iacon lane and a batch of nano bleaching bots fell on him and bleached his armor white :lol: ?

Seriously though, the un-character did intrigue me. TT isgoing for propbably a more g1 color scheme while domestic Hasbro is.....?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Sun May 24, 2015 4:12 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Va'al wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.


You hurt me.
:grin:

Why? Both are technically interrelated. So who's the white Prime mold this time? What'd be the back story on the box? Legit issues no?


Well.... comics answer is that there is currently no white Prime, but all the other limbs are there.
So, with this illustration, the comics and toy line are not connected.

As of right now, mind you. We still have to see CW part 5 and the aftermath/Epilogue.


So the product is like a space filler? The way naked white UM from the Classics line was?


As I said, with the current storyline, probably.
(Plus, Rodimus is in MTMTE with Ambus/Magnus - so neither the white Prime nor the chest Blackjack redeco fit in-story.)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Diem » Sun May 24, 2015 6:09 pm

I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 24, 2015 6:17 pm

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carytheone wrote:[Snip]
Ok, this is a half baked thought and I may be off base. I find it interesting or maybe puzzling that they used the word courage on the Decepticon poster.

I would normally associate courage as a positive descriptor and wouldn't associate it with the "bad guys". Of course, good/bad is determinded by which side of the fence you're on. In the current comics they are exploring the idea that both sides of the war did terrible things, but the 'Cons were still way more ruthless.

I don't know? I'm having a hard time finishing this thought. Maybe some of you could help me fully bake it or add some of your insight?

I don't think you are way off base. Indeed, it is hard to associate positive traits to those seen as "evil." But, I think of some characters and some situations. Storm Shadow in G.I. Joe seemed to be one who was on the wrong side. But I would associate courage and honor with him. Indeed, even Megatron showed honor at times. *shrug* It does seem a little weird to associate it with Menasor. Courage is action in the face of fear, not the absence of fear. To me, Menasor more really didn't care about danger or think about fear. "Fearless" or "reckless" would seem to be better terms...
Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

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fenrir72 wrote:Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?
Do you mean the white redeco of Voyager Optimus? That's Optimus Maximus, whose identity is stil a mystery at this point, but I'm growing more and more into thinking he might just be a powered-up form of Optimus Prime. Though it remains to be seen if this thing will appear in the comics or not.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Sun May 24, 2015 6:27 pm

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Diem wrote:I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.


Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Diem » Sun May 24, 2015 6:35 pm

Optimizzy wrote:
Diem wrote:I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.


Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.


That part is more understandable since Reflector looks to have several paint apps by himself. But the fact that even the 'Con logos are different styles (bordered and unbordered)

If they release a Kickback I hope that he winds up with slightly different tones. If two of them look the same and the third doesn't that would be a bit rubbish.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Sun May 24, 2015 6:40 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.

But what Agamemnon said about honor was the missing piece of the pie for me. Thanks BTW!

I like that they are playing with the notions of right and wrong. War especially has many shades of grey. I've just picked up the missing RID and MTMTE comics from the recent IDW sale. I'm very excited to get to the CW issues.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 24, 2015 6:54 pm

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carytheone wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.
It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Diem » Sun May 24, 2015 7:08 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.
It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.


Harsh indictment on the horrors that a lifetime of ceaseless war can inflict on even the most positive of individuals or pulled-from-arse, "edgy" out-of-character moment during an already poorly-scripted era of the comic? YOU DECIDE.

But anyway, yeah, "courage" is a very weird adjective to ascribe to Menasor. Particularly since he's one-fifth Breakdown. But then "courage" is a really weird trait to emphasize for giant gestalt robots anyway. Bravery is not exactly an issue when one is multiple times the size of one's foes.
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Postby Optimizzy » Sun May 24, 2015 7:20 pm

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Diem wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:
Diem wrote:I'm probably not the first person to complain about this but I just got CW Bombshell and though I've made my peace with the fact that they don't have Micromaster partners, the fact that both the purple and the yellow used are wildly different from the ones used on Shrapnel just a year ago is hard to swallow.


Yeah I noticed that too. shrapnel is also under painted.


That part is more understandable since Reflector looks to have several paint apps by himself. But the fact that even the 'Con logos are different styles (bordered and unbordered)

If they release a Kickback I hope that he winds up with slightly different tones. If two of them look the same and the third doesn't that would be a bit rubbish.


I'm hoping kickback will have a scheme that links them both together so they look cohesive.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sun May 24, 2015 7:32 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
carytheone wrote:[Snip]
Ok, this is a half baked thought and I may be off base. I find it interesting or maybe puzzling that they used the word courage on the Decepticon poster.

I would normally associate courage as a positive descriptor and wouldn't associate it with the "bad guys". Of course, good/bad is determinded by which side of the fence you're on. In the current comics they are exploring the idea that both sides of the war did terrible things, but the 'Cons were still way more ruthless.

I don't know? I'm having a hard time finishing this thought. Maybe some of you could help me fully bake it or add some of your insight?

I don't think you are way off base. Indeed, it is hard to associate positive traits to those seen as "evil." But, I think of some characters and some situations. Storm Shadow in G.I. Joe seemed to be one who was on the wrong side. But I would associate courage and honor with him. Indeed, even Megatron showed honor at times. *shrug* It does seem a little weird to associate it with Menasor. Courage is action in the face of fear, not the absence of fear. To me, Menasor more really didn't care about danger or think about fear. "Fearless" or "reckless" would seem to be better terms...
Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

fenrir72 wrote:Btw, with the impending release of the white Optimus mold as the Ultra Prime(?) torso. Who is that character going to be in the IDW universe? Raising the question in the toysection because the Comic is just a glorified ad piece for the line.

UM already has the Minimus character piloting "the" UM armor. So who's the white prime? Is it like the Getter robot plot? The proto is the white version until the main kahuna is the colored?
Do you mean the white redeco of Voyager Optimus? That's Optimus Maximus, whose identity is stil a mystery at this point, but I'm growing more and more into thinking he might just be a powered-up form of Optimus Prime. Though it remains to be seen if this thing will appear in the comics or not.


Bullesye! But the "Albedo" effect. I wonder what cockamamie explanation IDW will come up with. As there is no more "white" UM in their universe.......maybe the original UM coming back? :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Sun May 24, 2015 7:35 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
carytheone wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Not to mention that, well, Jazz did kill a human.

A non-evil human.

This fact isn't really that important here, but wasn't Jazz tricked or it was a mistake? I'm just curuous; I have quite a bit of back reading that I want to do.
It was a heat of the moment thing that had Jazz in a frustrated scenario in which he lost his cool and didn't think before gunning the guy down.

Spoiler pic.

Jazz regretted his rash action, but was still removed from active duty and denied any release into the field afterward.

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Postby Sabrblade » Sun May 24, 2015 7:36 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:Bullesye! But the "Albedo" effect. I wonder what cockamamie explanation IDW will come up with. As there is no more "white" UM in their universe.......maybe the original UM coming back? :lol:
Could just be an enhanced form granted augmented by the Enigma or something.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #361 - Doppelganger
Twincast / Podcast #361:
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