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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Hero Alpha » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:21 pm

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Moonshot wrote:Well since First Aid is one of my fav CW figures, I'm not that excited about Prowl sharing the mold since its not that Prowlish to me. I do need a good Prowl but I dont think this is it.


Interesting factoid I just learned: Prowl is an SUV in the IDW comics. This is as close to comic Prowl as we're going to get, it seems. I, like you, tend to forget that while the combiners themselves are going for G1 as much as possible in the toyline, the characters are IDW all the way. IDW and G1 technically aren't always the same universe, they just so happen to be interchangeable, which works for everyone.



I know Prowl is an SUV in IDW but this robot mode looks nothing like IDW Prowl. I'm all for IDW style figures and prefer them since I love the comics(Whirl looking at you). Alt mode will almost work for IDW Prowl, although I would like them to throw a spare tire on him. But its a definite no on robot mode. Guess I will wait some more.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:21 pm

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I'm in north Indiana, and Walmart has them 14.99; TRU is 16.99

Nevermind. Was at TRU today, and they raised the CW deluxe price to 19.99
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:28 pm

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I know Prowl is an SUV in IDW but this robot mode looks nothing like IDW Prowl. I'm all for IDW style figures and prefer them since I love the comics(Whirl looking at you). Alt mode will almost work for IDW Prowl, although I would like them to throw a spare tire on him. But its a definite no on robot mode. Guess I will wait some more.



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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:30 pm

Doesn't look any tiny bit like prowl. Any. At all.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:36 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Thadicon » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:36 pm

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luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.

SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.


RATCHET, PEOPLE!!!!!

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At least I hope so.


Yeah seems much more likely to be Ratchet to me.

Vehicle mode and the shape of the horns (no center crest) screams Ratchet to me instead of Prowl.

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Think it's going to be Prowl. The current IDW Transformers comics already have Prowl in this form.


I reckon its Ratchet too. Which would be a good update
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:41 pm

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It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.

Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.


That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:46 pm

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Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.

Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.


That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.

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Two reasons



1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.



2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:50 pm

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Hey! It could be Ratchet. I like that idea. I need a Ratchet. Never got Classics after the fiasco known as Classics Ironhide.

If I recall (sorry don't feel like digging for OG post), the listing was for...
Deluxe Ironhide
Deluxe Mirage
Deluxe Prowl
Deluxe Sunstreaker.

If that is Ratchet, than maybe Rook CAN be Prowl.


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:51 pm

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Theres something I dont buy about prowl thing. We know both Prowl and Ironhide are part of the limbs for the final combiner of the year and Ironhide was already seen using the same mold in a similar drawing. Hasbro has yet to release two identical car/trucks as limbs so I doubt that they would use this mold a fourth time for a mass release this year (for both Prowl and Ironhide coming out in the same wave). Not saying this is surely not Prowl but I do not think he and Ironhide will share the same mold (ratchet would, not Prowl).
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby pie-man » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:53 pm

Hmmm... considering that I'm planning to get both Offroad & First Aid, I don't think I want to get this figure as Prowl as well. I'm happy with my Universe 2.0 Prowl.

Although, if it were Ratchet...... hmmmm. If I can't get my hands on a TFP Ratchet, I'd seriously think about it.

Although I think Rook would be a better re-tool into Prowl.

Finally.... I'd really really love it we'd get an alternate Prowl head for Generations Devastator. Kinda like that purple headmaster thingy that fits on Animated Leader Bulkhead.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Optimum Supreme » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:54 pm

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luks0r wrote:C'mob guys, I created an account just to contribute this which I'm surprised nobody else thought.

SUV. Horns. Re-mold of First Aid. The other one is Ironhide.


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At least I hope so.



Makes a LOT more sense than Prowl. F'n IDW.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby lobsterclaw » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:55 pm

Could you post Alpha Bravo with the rest of the team? AB will be cast out once I get Slighshot. I wonder if AB would work with the Protectobots since all the limbs have white as the base color.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby ThunderThruster » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:56 pm

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RiddlerJ wrote:So Prowl gets the Fist Aid version and Ironhide gets the Offroad version?


To quote the tfwiki, "Behold! The might of redeco potential!"

In the next issue of Combiner Wars, Mirage and Sunstreaker change their alt-modes to trucks as well for some reason.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rated X » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:00 pm

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So White Optimus, Prowl, Alpha Bravo, Rook, and Offroad (or a new technobot) will form the mighty Rejector. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:01 pm

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Ya looking back at the pictures, that head crest is too swoopy to be Prowl's. It does look way more Ratchety.

WJ88 makes a great point. After the release pattern of Drag Strip with 3 Aerialbots (etc.) and Hasbro's attempt at peg diversity, I wouldn't think they would have two of the same molds in one wave.

I just hope they don't use Dead End as Prowl. That mold is proving to be troublesome.
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I really feel with the way the comics are going right now, Scrapper is going to be revived and Prowl will combine with Optimus and the others to put down his rogue team. He may even return to his (slightly) more sane mind once Scrapper is out of his head. :BOT:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:02 pm

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Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.

Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.


That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.

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Two reasons

1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.



2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.


It also wouldn't work for practical reasons.

Prowl replaced Scrapper, who is a leg on the current Devastator. To be comic accurate (the only reason to release Prowl as a component of Devastator), they would have to release a new version of Hook as well to form Devastator's right leg. I can't see them making two new Voyager figures just to accommodate a relatively small fan base.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:12 pm

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mirageandjazz1197 wrote:
Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.

Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.


That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.

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Two reasons



1: Hasbro is too lazy to release a separate piece for a combiner even if it had articulation the other Contructicons lack.



2: Hasbro and others thinks that everything is confusing to kids because their stupid or something.


Well I don't think it'll happen either, mainly because it would require Prowl to be a Voyager figure and we'd need a second Hook figure to become the leg. I'm just saying the "no one reads the comics" excuse doesn't work for a comic book based line that comes with comic books.

As far as price gauging at TRU goes, what else is new? The MSRP for CW is US$16.99 so TRU adding $3 to that isn't much of a shocker. Also keep in mind that each TRU sets their own prices, that's been a complaint with figure collectors for many, many years. Walmart doing it is a little more surprising, but I seem to remember them doing something similar a few years ago, I think with Dark of the Moon figures. For now the prices are still $14.96 at my local Walmarts, same as on the website.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:14 pm

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Cobotron wrote:Ya looking back at the pictures, that head crest is too swoopy to be Prowl's. It does look way more Ratchety.

WJ88 makes a great point. After the release pattern of Drag Strip with 3 Aerialbots (etc.) and Hasbro's attempt at peg diversity, I wouldn't think they would have two of the same molds in one wave.


Yeah, if this were really Prowl, then that would mean the same mold is used 4 times for mass release products which outweighs all other mold uses this year. It just doesn't add up to me. What I feel this is would be a preliminary drawing where the mold was used for ratchet and then the character was switched to Ironhide.

Not all blueprint drawings have made it into toys. I was looking at the inner workings of the design in the platinum insecticon box the other day and saw a gun Megatron toy, which clearly never happnened.
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Postby King Kuuga » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:16 pm

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Count me in with the folks that think this is probably Ratchet. It fits him more.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Editor » Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:17 pm

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Rated X wrote:So White Optimus, Prowl, Alpha Bravo, Rook, and Offroad (or a new technobot) will form the mighty Rejector. :lol:

Personally, I'd call him Offender-X.

;)^

Emerje wrote:It probably will be Prowl, but I agree that the head looks more like Ratchet.

Editor wrote:Just because the current looks from IDW are being used, releasing Prowl as a Devastator component would be outright confusing for many people who don't follow the comics.


That's not exactly a valid excuse anymore when all of the deluxe figures come with comics.

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