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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby albnok » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:07 am

Oooh, just as predicted, Hasbro is making the fists/feet different by either mold or color!

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I corrected the white balance. The "thumb connector" is white. It is otherwise the same as Alpha Bravo's all-black fist/foot.
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Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blades

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:22 am

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I think that's awesome. Well-defined. And yes, definite reminder of the equally awesome G2 comics.

Finally the mold gets its true purpose of representing a real combiner character. Should I expect Vortex coming?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:27 am

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Re: In-Hand Images - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Blades

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:27 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Finally the mold gets its true purpose of representing a real combiner character. Should I expect Vortex coming?


Not for this year, but it is pretty likely. ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:36 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:40 am

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You mean you weren't already committed!?!? :lol:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Bradimus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 8:57 am

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While I like Blades' overall paint scheme better than Alpha Bravo's, especially the white stripe along the side to break up the red body, I just cannot get past the rescue markings on the figure and the ugly face (I understand it fits the character and he always had a blue face, but it's just not my cup of tea). Overall, AB wins the mold war so far. Looking forward to seeing what Vortex looks like as Bruticus is the only other combiner I'm planning on getting. I hope Hasbro releases the Combaticons in wave one next year.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby rpetras » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:08 am

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rpetras wrote:I want to hate this, but I really don't.

I'm treating the CW stuff a lot like PCC figures.

They are fun, and I'm not taking them too seriously.

I'll prolly get it.


First of, sorry, I tend to take everyone's opinion on the internet as that of an expert, super balanced person.

But Combiner Wars is by far one of the best Transformers lines ever. G1 characters, better than Cybertron posability yet still very stable solid figures with not to complex transformations.

To even compare this to non-transforming limbs & a "scout" sized team leader is simply :HEADHURTS:



Welcome to the world of "opinion".

In my opinion the CW stuff is fun. It hearkens back to G1, which I prefer, and as you point out it has non-complex transforms.

But a lot of the transforms are pretty weak, with tons of bot-kibble in the alt modes, especially arms on the aerialbots. The limb-modes also are pretty kibble laden, with jet and car kibble dangling off the front of the legs and small arms sticking out of the arm-mode bots in many instances.

So, no, I don't agree this is one of the best lines ever.

But, Like I said, it is FUN. The simplified transforms bring back a lot of that G1 feel to Transformers that, frankly, I've missed.

Unlike a lot of closed minded collectors, I gave PCC a chance.
Pretty easy to do when they were on clearance for $7-10 a set, and the thing the lines share is they are both FUN with a combiner gimmick.

Do the PCC limb bots suck? Yes, but the multiple ways you can combine them for different looks for the shelf, is great. The simplified transforms of the torso bots has the same feel as the CW stuff, that you claim is a big plus.

For my combiner teams in my display, I've gone heavily 3P, and comparing the CW stuff to the 3P offerings side by side, down to the quality of the plastic used, the 3P stuff wins hands down. But, 3P combiners are expensive and often fiddly with the transforms, and while in my opinion they look 1000X better on the shelf, they aren't always as fun as the CW stuff.

So I don't know if I'm an expert, and I have no idea how balanced a person can be that is an adult toy collector, but that's where my comparison is coming from.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:10 am

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Also, PCCs are awesome. So there.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:15 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:15 am

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Cobotron wrote:
megatronus wrote:Alright. Game over. Buying EVERYTHING.
You mean you weren't already committed!?!? :lol:

Before, I was buying everything. Now, I'm buying EVERYTHING!!!
Hope there's enough for both of us. :-P

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby mtma » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:21 am

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Just hope that when the mold inevitably becomes Vortex, they at least change the front of the chopper and give him a 4-blade rotor.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Ironhidensh » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:30 am

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Off road is evil. Just look at that face.

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Also, I find it hilarious that his bio says the other Stunticons find him creepy for taking Wildriders colors. :lol:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:31 am

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megatronus wrote:Alright. Game over. Buying EVERYTHING.
You mean you weren't already committed!?!? :lol:

Before, I was buying everything. Now, I'm buying EVERYTHING!!!
Hope there's enough for both of us. :-P
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:33 am

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Ironhidensh wrote:Off road is evil. Just look at that face.

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Also, I find it hilarious that his bio says the other Stunticons find him creepy for taking Wildriders colors. :lol:

Hasbro certainly has been nailing the face sculpts lately, especially with Combiner Wars.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:16 am

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shajaki wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
megatronus wrote:
Cobotron wrote:
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You mean you weren't already committed!?!? :lol:

Before, I was buying everything. Now, I'm buying EVERYTHING!!!
Hope there's enough for both of us. :-P
:lol: you guys. Leave some for the rest of us!

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:23 am

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That works surprisingly well. Who would be the limbs for a Starscream gestalt? Skywarp and Thundercracker for sure, but we need two more. Acid Storm and Sun Storm? It would be odd to use the coneheads, as one of the trio would have to be left out, unless you made that one a target master, but still, that would feel odd having one undersized next to its full-sized "brothers."
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:34 am

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So now that I've had a chance to play around with the Stunticons, I've noticed that Dead End's foot/fist accessory is loose in the 5mm holes; it's not Dead End, it's the post on the weapon thing. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby albnok » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:38 am

Nemesis Maximo wrote:So now that I've had a chance to play around with the Stunticons, I've noticed that Dead End's foot/fist accessory is loose in the 5mm holes; it's not Dead End, it's the post on the weapon thing. Anyone else experiencing this?


The holes on my Dead End's fist/foot seem to be within tolerance; not too tight nor loose.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Bumblevivisector » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:44 am

WOW, talk about putting all the right elements together to create a whole that just looks...off. I mean I like the headsculpt; G2#1 was what made the character for me. But maybe if it had been a bit narrower to make his shoulders look wider, or even if just the nose was thinner, it wouldn't look so odd. I try not to clamor for 3rd party upgrades for every little fix, but I'd buy a new head packaged with his "Get with the program" gun. That's look awesome next to G2 Sideswipe.

And because I'm getting so damn sick of every word acknowledging Alpha Bravo being pre-polarized one way or the other, I'm finally just gonna' say it:

I want, more than anything, so see him f%@# his mom, just like his namesake Johnny Bravo.

Now, any reaction to that sentence is going to paint it as negative, but I'm banking on there being enough Seibertronians with positive views on fictional wincest that it's a genuinely ambiguous statement; those views just won't get expressed on this type of site, understandably. If I can break up the stupid white-noise attached to Alpha Bravo by defender and detractor, it's well worth a warning. I genuinely want to see that happen.

...

...and getting back to Blades, the G2 homage makes his getting a new teammate named Rook a bit more interestin' donnit? Let's just hope Hot Spot doesn't have a secret suicide action feature that's triggered by attaching Viper to him!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:48 am

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Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:For Cyclonus/Galvatronus, forget the Overlord comparisons, check this out:

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That works surprisingly well. Who would be the limbs for a Starscream gestalt? Skywarp and Thundercracker for sure, but we need two more. Acid Storm and Sun Storm? It would be odd to use the coneheads, as one of the trio would have to be left out, unless you made that one a target master, but still, that would feel odd having one undersized next to its full-sized "brothers."

Actually, I think the coneheads + Thundercracker would work out best - they're all the right colors.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:51 am

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Bumblevivisector wrote:And because I'm getting so damn sick of every word acknowledging Alpha Bravo being pre-polarized one way or the other, I'm finally just gonna' say it:

I want, more than anything, so see him f%@# his mom, just like his namesake Johnny Bravo.

Now, any reaction to that sentence is going to paint it as negative, but I'm banking on there being enough Seibertronians with positive views on fictional wincest that it's a genuinely ambiguous statement; those views just won't get expressed on this type of site, understandably. If I can break up the stupid white-noise attached to Alpha Bravo by defender and detractor, it's well worth a warning. I genuinely want to see that happen.


You seem agitated.

Have you accepted Alpha Bravo as your lord and saviour?

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:58 am

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That's actually pretty good. I bet it would look good with the Aerialbot limbs.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:16 pm

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Weapon: Saber Blade
Wolfman Jake wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:For Cyclonus/Galvatronus, forget the Overlord comparisons, check this out:

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That works surprisingly well. Who would be the limbs for a Starscream gestalt?
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Bumblevivisector wrote:WOW, talk about putting all the right elements together to create a whole that just looks...off. I mean I like the headsculpt; G2#1 was what made the character for me. But maybe if it had been a bit narrower to make his shoulders look wider, or even if just the nose was thinner, it wouldn't look so odd. I try not to clamor for 3rd party upgrades for every little fix, but I'd buy a new head packaged with his "Get with the program" gun. That's look awesome next to G2 Sideswipe.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby jamiko » Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:25 pm

Is anyone else seeing Overlord with that head sculpt and, not Galvatron. Cause that's what I'm seeing and, I'm kinda feelin it.
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