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[Short Circuit]

Well crud, I'm torn on whether to grab this Magnus for my CHUG Season 3 collection or to hope for a US release of MP Magnus to go on my MP shelf with Rodimus and Optimus...

The protectobots look really nice! I'll be able to justify getting the re-moulds as well, might skip on Alpha Bravo now so I don't end up with three choppers though even though I kinda prefer him over slingshot.

[SkyWarpt]

Defensor is a lot cooler than I expected. Kinda concerned for the leg pegs on UM, looks awesome otherwise.
Not thrilled with bot mode Cyclonus...but love the jet mode. Really wish I had a Voyager scale RTS Cyclonus bot. Still yet, I like this better than the Motormaster...any word on Scourge yet?

[SkyWarpt]

I actually had MP Ultra Magnus on order and after seeing these pics, I asked if I could cancel it. Not that this one is better, but I cant justify getting 2 big Magnus toys that emulate a similar look, albeit different of course. And the combiner wars one will both be more compact, 75% less costly and fit with more of my toys. So it was a no brainer for me in this particular case. What I really feared was missing out on the engineering involved in turning a car carrier into a robot and this one fits that bill just fine.

On question though, who is minimus ambus?

Also, I find Defensor super bulky. Groove making the chest piece is a cool look but the whole combiner just seems too wide, especially his legs. And I do not like that Rook figure, whose hands are not working at all.

Love t=what they did with the other protectobots though.

DON'T DO IT!

Keep MP UM. You won't regret it wj88!

There is no way I would trade out MP UM for this

[ZeroWolf]

nice, very nice. UM is amazing, really glad to see the IDW influences. Now if they did that on all the toys

Defensor is also looking good, especially with the individual bots, especially hot spot on top of that.

On that note though; legends groove, is he mistransformed in that official pictures as he looks to have spindly legs.

[DMSL]

Cyclonus looks really nice, sadly he doesn't come with a targetmaster. Hasbro has the mold so it would be nice if they included it. So i might have to stick with my Henkei Cyclonus or rob him of his gun.

Ultra Magnus looks good in botmode, but i have no love for that truckmode or the small figure that comes with him. It's too anime styled to fit in with CHUG.

Defensor looks damn nice. I can get used to Hot Spot's futuristic firetruck although i would've preffered a more Earth like cab, but i think it's a shame they made Groove so small and are introducing another member. In this case i think they should have just made Groove a Deluxe class figure. I am also not a fan of all of the wimpy bashing rods or axes most of the Deluxe class Combiner Wars figures come with, just give them a gun that can hide in altmode on the underside.

Megatron looks sick, but why is Hasbro making him a Leader class, should've been a Voyage, come on Hasbro make it happen please we need a new CHUG Megs that fits in scale with the others.

[fenrir72]

This short video shows how minimus ambus hides away in Ultra Magnus

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[Evil Eye]

Sorry TFC, but...Hasbro wins this one. Defensor looks incredible.

Ultra Magnus looks fantastic too- time to finally retire my poor old RID Magnus methinks.

[Peridot]

How does Alpha Bravo stack up with the Movie Evac/Blackout mold?

Alpha Bravo is better in all facets, even if he's a size-class smaller. That's just me.

I meant height-wise. The Blackout mold is a small-ish Voyager, right?

[-Kanrabat-]

Now, here's a combiner I'm really exited to have. DEFENSOR!

Also, that Leader Ultra Magnus!

I actually had MP Ultra Magnus on order and after seeing these pics, I asked if I could cancel it. Not that this one is better, but I cant justify getting 2 big Magnus toys that emulate a similar look, albeit different of course. And the combiner wars one will both be more compact, 75% less costly and fit with more of my toys. So it was a no brainer for me in this particular case. What I really feared was missing out on the engineering involved in turning a car carrier into a robot and this one fits that bill just fine.

I'm with you on this one. I find CW Magnus way more impressive looking than the MP. Also, he will cost 60$+tx at the very worst while MP Magnus cost 200$US + at least, 50$ of shipping. Add also around 30$ of custom fees and I will have some serious buyer remorse if I ever buy him.

So, CW Magnus all the way!

[Mechastrike]

FINALLY! an G1 accurate, no Optimus Prime look alike Ultra Magnus. gave those 3rd party people a run for their money.

Isn't that what the MP was?

Also, haha I was right, The protectobots' alt modes are definitely futuristic. I would not call Hot Spot's alt mode earth based. It's design is far more cybertronian.

i actually forgot about the MP line. i forgot because i'm not into the MP's. too large and too expensive for my tastes... or something.

[ZeroWolf]

How does Alpha Bravo stack up with the Movie Evac/Blackout mold?

Alpha Bravo is better in all facets, even if he's a size-class smaller. That's just me.

I meant height-wise. The Blackout mold is a small-ish Voyager, right?

A lot of the plastic of blackout went into the big piece that attached to his back with the rotors attached. It was really small though still. I got the redeco of it with the bludgeon redeco of wreckage. The height difference between them was minimal once the back pack was taken off.

[dragons]

like how he does video review see original toy transformation click on video to bad he couldnt same with articluation part of video doesnt look right for amrada megatron to be made in this mode doesnt look right with out claws in front of tank mode

[-Kanrabat-]

like how he does video review see original toy transformation click on video to bad he couldnt same with articluation part of video doesnt look right for amrada megatron to be made in this mode doesnt look right with out claws in front of tank mode

Please, for the love of sanity, no more voice-recogintion I-Phone aps. Take the time to type and add some punctuation. All I see is words puked on the screen without any meanings.

[RhA]

Combiner Wars is, in my humble opinion, the best thing since zippers and sliced bread.

[ZeroWolf]

Combiner Wars is, in my humble opinion, the best thing since zippers and sliced bread.

I would have to agree, this line is the best we've had in a long time. I'd day it's better than G1

[peaces]

it's basically g1 2015

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Combiner Wars is, in my humble opinion, the best thing since zippers and sliced bread.

I would have to agree, this line is the best we've had in a long time. I'd day it's better than G1

You're only saying that because it has good Combiners, by Hasbro no less and not some expensive 3rd Party And I wholeheartedly agree!

I'm gonna have to see what TakaraTomy will do with Defensor. Keep Rook, or go for Groove as a limb. The latter may very be an indication of what's to come mold-wise...

[ZeroWolf]

Simply speculating but when would hasbro be able to hand over a mold to Takara? Given the heavy retooling seen so far, afterburner into groove makes a lot of sense.

[gothsaurus]

It bothered me how the various limbs didn't match exactly to the G1 Protectobots... Until I heard about the two extra limbs in the takara continuity. Rook was a drill tank, and there was another red jet. Then they had all of the original five guys. I am wondering if the box at version released overseas might have all seven characters? I'd love to see that.

Edit: I went back to the wiki, and reminded myself that the extra limbs names are heatrock and sky feather. The head sculpts look quite different from rook as well.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Simply speculating but when would hasbro be able to hand over a mold to Takara? Given the heavy retooling seen so far, afterburner into groove makes a lot of sense.

I think they basically take turns: when one's done, the other gets its turn. There have been instances where Hasbro and TakaraTomy stock were produced side-by-side I believe.

It bothered me how the various limbs didn't match exactly to the G1 Protectobots... Until I heard about the two extra limbs in the takara continuity. Rook was a drill tank, and there was another red jet. Then they had all of the original five guys. I am wondering if the box at version released overseas might have all seven characters? I'd love to see that.

That's not Rook: that would be Heatrock and Skyfeather. And they combine in a different way with the Protectobots. Plus, I doubt they're canon, since Kabaya toy characters haven't been featured in official material as far as I know.

Would be funny though if someone could made Gaia Guardian and the two versions of Gaia Scramble

[william-james88]

We've seen the official images, we've seen the first look Hasbro area coverage, we have a Seibertron.com gallery of the recent reveals, and now we have for you a video which gives a demonstration of Ultra Magnus's interaction with Minimus Ambus, for your viewing pleasure.

[Cobotron]

Combiner Wars is, in my humble opinion, the best thing since zippers and sliced bread.

Friends, I have been at this a for 19 years, and I haven't been this excited about Transformers in long time. Maybe not even since My bro sent me Classics Bee for my birthday and made me realize how great those were.
I've had the 1st wave limbs for over a month now. Yesterday Prime and Sbolt arrived in the mail. I was up til 2 am SCRAMBLIN' all over the city! I gave Bravo the first go as a limb, just to ease the rookie into his new position.
It's been a long wait, but Has/tak has finally nailed it as far as combining goes. It was worth the wait. The connections work so well, and the joints are superbly tight ans stable. I contorted Superion into all kinds of amazing poses.
I'm really excited about the interchangeability of this line. I see a lot of folks reminisce about having incomplete sets as kids. I'm no exception. I like to think of the 9 year old kid out there right now who, maybe only ever gets one voyager and at least 4 random limbs to make a complete giant. That kid is gonna have so much fun, and play with those guys forever.
This is such a smart move on Hasby's part. There is just so much room for play in this line.

and after seeing whats on the horizon ( like Ultra Magnus ) I can barely contain myself. I feel like... like this

[ZeroWolf]

That's the other thing about this line, hasbro has resurrected scramble city and dragged it into the 21st century making them leagues better toys then their older counter parts. Some of you may never use this feature but that's fine, there are those of us that wil, and we will have fun with it

[-Kanrabat-]

Superion don't interest me mainly because it's only 3 molds for his whole body. A torso, one arm, one leg, and repaints of boths.

Optimus Prime look weird and I find stupid the fact he pretend to be a "Scramble City" combiner. Optimus should combine with one other bot for a super mode and that's it.

Menasor, however, look awesome. Let's hope his limbs are all different molds. The best one so far, the MUST HAVE for me, is Defensor.

Also, Devastator. Man, I WANT that thing!

Leaders "G1" Megatron and Ultra Magnus are also "must haves" for me.

2015 will be VERY interesting!

[QBKiller94]

I dare say this Magnus looks btter than the Masterpiece!

I think this depends on what you want our of your Ultra Magnus. I own the MP Ultra Magnus and saw the Generations Leader version at Toy Fair yesterday.

ALT MODES:
The alt mode for the MP Magnus blows the Generations Magnus out of the water visually.
Winner - MP Magnus and it's not even close.

ROBOT MODE:
I like the IDW inspired robot mode on the Generations Magnus and his legs are a lot less bulky than the MP. However, MP Magnus is much bigger and more detailed. I'm leaning toward the G1 look more, but they're both good.
Winner - MP Magnus

TRANSFORMATION:
MP Ultra Magnus has an incredible transformation. It's amazingly engineered to transform the cab and trailer into robot mode. And you can still remove the cab from the trailer in bot mode!
Winner - TBD, but the MP transformation is wonderful.

COST:
MP - $190
Generations - $45
Winner - Everyone! If you have the money, get the MP. If you don't, you have a nice alternative. Win, win.