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Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:27 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Also, the current Generations lines and the IDW comicsw may not be G1 in its pure form, they're still based on it, and as such some feel it has to slavishly comply to every concept already established, like Slingshot here. And they have every right to, as we have the right to disagree with them >:oP
Like I said before, I really really hate how the terms "Generation 1" and "G1" have so many definitions that cause confusion like this.

There's "G1 the 1980s toyline", "G1 the Sunbow cartoon", "G1 the Marvel comics", "G1 the Dreamwave comics", "G1 the IDW comics", "G1 the continuity family", "G1 the Wings Universe", "G1 the 1980s era of the brand" (this one Shockblast2 seems to be focused on the most), "G1 the Classicsverse", "G1 the Evolutions comics", "G1 the Blackthorne comics", "G1 the Regeneration One comics", "G1 the Japanese manga" and so much more. I really do wish we had more diverse terms to refer to all of them than just the confusingly catch-all "G1" and "Generation 1" terms.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby jogunwarrior » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:43 am

I think this guy looks awesome. Looks nicely posable, and would be fun to play with in both modes. I'm certain I'm all in for the Combiner War figures at this point!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:44 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Also, the current Generations lines and the IDW comicsw may not be G1 in its pure form, they're still based on it, and as such some feel it has to slavishly comply to every concept already established, like Slingshot here. And they have every right to, as we have the right to disagree with them >:oP
Like I said before, I really really hate how the terms "Generation 1" and "G1" have so many definitions that cause confusion like this.

There's "G1 the 1980s toyline", "G1 the Sunbow cartoon", "G1 the Marvel comics", "G1 the Dreamwave comics", "G1 the IDW comics", "G1 the continuity family", "G1 the Wings Universe", "G1 the 1980s era of the brand" (this one Shockblast2 seems to be focused on the most), "G1 the Classicsverse", "G1 the Evolutions comics", "G1 the Blackthorne comics", "G1 the Regeneration One comics", "G1 the Japanese manga" and so much more. I really do wish we had more diverse terms to refer to all of them than just the confusingly catch-all "G1" and "Generation 1" terms.


That's probably where the main problem lies: the lack of a proper term for the lines and media based on the old Generation 1, like Generations, the IDW comics... basically anything beyond 2000. :-?

And no, "Generation 3" will not cut as it's implied to be a sequel to Generation 2, which it isn't the way shockblast2 is using it.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby MemphisR56 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:02 am

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:16 am

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MemphisR56 wrote:Can we get back to discussing Combiner Wars?
not till shockblast leaves. >:oP
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:25 am

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So far we've seen Alpha Bravo, Firefly/Fireflight and Drag Strip. Can't wait to see Skydive and Silverbolt in-hand. Speaking of Skydive, I've seen somewhere that Air Raid will be his retool. I'm not buying that statement just yet.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:43 am

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1984-1991 G1 ONE
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Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby mtma » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:44 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote: Speaking of Skydive, I've seen somewhere that Air Raid will be his retool. I'm not buying that statement just yet.


Eh, no. I thought the same thing but actually it's just the legs that are re-used...

I hope he shows therest too soon and superion as well. I'm curious as how they combine...
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New in package images of Skydive, Silverbolt and Optimus

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:56 am

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Amazon listings for Combiner Wars figures had been posted and have since been removed. However, we still have the new in package images that were found on those listings available and mirrored below.


Skydive

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Gallifreyan Autobot » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:57 am

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shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:03 am

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Autobot tap out wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:



As a friend of mine once alluded, maybe it's all G1 (except for aligned and animated)
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Re: New in package images of Skydive, Silverbolt and Optimus

Postby Gallifreyan Autobot » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:04 am

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william-james88 wrote:Amazon listings for Combiner Wars figures had been posted and have since been removed. However, we still have the new in package images that were found on those listings available and mirrored below.


Skydive

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Silverbolt

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Optimus

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wow give the original 1984 G1 prime Combiner Wars Prime's Gun .... that would be almost the most epic thing that could happen :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :BOWDOWN: :BOT: :BOT: :BOT: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:
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i hope y'all realize once Va'al gets back from wherever and reads these post insulting his favorite character , somebody's not going to be a happy camper :roll: >:oP


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:05 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:

Which would make this "G3" something he made up. Oops.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:17 am

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wow. skydive has a real megatron looking bucket on the noggin of his. anyone else want a machine wars repaint of that besides me?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:19 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.



1996-2001 Beast Wars

2001-2006 Universe/Armada

2006-2011 Classics/Universe

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:20 am

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:

Which would make this "G3" something he made up. Oops.


LOL....do you know how to count?

If so, G3 should not be too hard to understand. See my prior post if you need help with that.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:23 am

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1996-2001 Beast Wars

2001-2006 Universe/Armada



Come on man, you forgot Robots in Disguise!
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:27 am

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shockblast2 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:

Which would make this "G3" something he made up. Oops.


LOL....do you know how to count?

If so, G3 should not be too hard to understand. See my prior post if you need help with that.


Official use, vs. non-official aka fan term. Look up my post on the previous page on the matter ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:33 am

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MemphisR56 wrote:Can we get back to discussing Combiner Wars?



We were discussing the figures. If you go back a few pages, you will see that the post was derailed, yet again, by a few members that just cannot let anyone else have their opinion posted without trying to dissect it. I made my original post about this not being geewun and that FACT explains the lack of Slingshot and Windrider in this line. Sabre, just like always, has to run his mouth about some stupid nerdy detail about Slingshot being killed off in the comics and calling me ignorant, which is really irrelevant to my claim that this ain't geewun. Of course, that is the hallmark of fanboys who have G1 shoved up their crack. They get all bent out of shape when anyone tries to wake them up from their thirty year slumber in fantasyland. It went downhill from there, which is silly, because I do not care for arguments on blogs. It is a waste of time and proves NOTHING, save the fact that some people just like to argue for the sake of arguing.

Now, to try to salvage a decent conversation out of this post, the question that seems to be lost on this forum is the release timing. Sites are saying these combiner wars figures will be available this month. But, this is the issue. With the exception of Meijer, a regional big box store, I haven't even seen the wave with Jhaxis, Nightbeat, etc, let alone Arcee and Chromia. So, my question is this, Are the combiner wars figures going to be delayed until sometime in the first quarter of next year, OR are Arcee and Chromia getting the retail shaft?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:34 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:

Which would make this "G3" something he made up. Oops.


LOL....do you know how to count?

If so, G3 should not be too hard to understand. See my prior post if you need help with that.


Official use, vs. non-official aka fan term. Look up my post on the previous page on the matter ;)



You know G1 and G2 were never called that until the fans started the terms, right?
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:36 am

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william-james88 wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:

1996-2001 Beast Wars

2001-2006 Universe/Armada



Come on man, you forgot Robots in Disguise!



That I did, sorry about that!

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby noctorro » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:42 am

Funny that they are releasing the combiners mixed like Scramble City.
From what I hear, Arcee/Chromia will be released this week, our local import shop should be getting them tomorrow. Must order them online right now.

ps. fan terms won't hold up in court. It's called Combiner Wars, probably based on the 80's cartoon.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:46 am

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shockblast2 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Lets count.

1984-1991 G1 ONE
1992-1994 G2 TWO

Stick with me now. The next one is a biggie!

2013-present G3 THREE

There! You learned how to count to three today! Yay for you!

So...what do you call the years between 1994 and 2013? Because I'm pretty sure Transformers existed back then.


well i sense some distaste for anything thing Beast era , UT, RiD, Animated , Movie, and to some extent the Aligned related in what Shockblast2 posted above #-o >:oP :roll:

Which would make this "G3" something he made up. Oops.


LOL....do you know how to count?

If so, G3 should not be too hard to understand. See my prior post if you need help with that.


Official use, vs. non-official aka fan term. Look up my post on the previous page on the matter ;)



You know G1 and G2 were never called that until the fans started the terms, right?


Look at the comics and toy packaging: "Generation 2" started with Hasbro (even if the symbols originated in Europe), so that particular term was official from the very beginning in the US. "Generation 1" on the other hand, can be considered a derivative of that made by fans, but it was still made official by Hasbro years later. Your "Generation 3" does not exist when Hasbro's concerned, and probably never will. Not saying you shouldn't use the term, just understand we don't consider it official.

That's my stance on the matter. Now, I would advise moving that particular subject to a new thread altogether, and keep this thread focused on Combiner Wars.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Dec 02, 2014 10:52 am

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shockblast2 wrote:You know G1 and G2 were never called that until the fans started the terms, right?


That's not correct. Hasbro created the term "Generation 2" for the rebranding of Transformers in the early 90's. It was emblazoned on the packaging for each toy, and the term "Generation 2" was also used for the tie-in media at the time, which consisted mostly reruns of the original Sunbow Cartoon with "Cybernetic Space Cube" scene transitions added and a new ugly 90's CGI opening, which even spoke the phrase "Generation 2." The term "Generation 1" was developed by fans to describe the original toys that came before, but the term became so pervasive and popular that Hasbro and Takara Tomy have officially adopted the term for the original line of Transformers and all associated media, including modern revisits of that continuity family. This can be evidence from "Generation 1" call outs on packaging for various reissues on G1 toys and the subline imprint "G1 Series" for the toys of the latter half of the Universe 2008 line that fit that motif.
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