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This weekend, a few of our members went to up AOE Defiance as part of a deal we made with them. The idea being that top-scoring members would go up to fill in their missing spots (they only have a few), earn the top prize (like a 3-star character in most leaderboard events), bring it back down, and use that to help us do better in wars and events. We intend to rotate out the members who go up during each event so that more players who could benefit from stronger units can get them, rather than the same 4 or 5 members always getting them, as happens in most top alliances. The goal here, in the long run, is to help our alliance members do better, which helps our alliance do better, which puts us in a better standing on the game leaderboard and makes us more attractive to strong players. The catch is that AOE Defiance has much higher BP requirements than us, at around 10k per event. Some slack is given to visiting Seibertron members, but they still have to pull their weight. As of right now with less than 2 hours left in the event, only 11 members of the Seibertron alliance have met or exceeded our 3500 BP requirement and we're fighting to stay above last place by recruiting random people from general chat, while our visiting members have topped AOE's leaderboard and helped them get to around 200th place. You could say that if our visiting members had stayed then we would be in a better situation, but if everybody who was still in main had met the minimum then we would also be in a better situation. I did the math, and if our five members who scored above 1000 but less than 3500 whom I allowed to stay in after the purge yesterday had met the minimum, we would be over 100 places higher on the leaderboard and not fighting for a last-place finish. That is why we have mandatory minimums. If you don't think you'll be able to meet the requirements, please let us know ahead of time. We appreciate the information and will not kick you. You can contact me, CtrlFrequency, or Bdizz on the forums, on line, or in-game private message to let us know your situation so we can make accommodations. We all want to make the Seibertron Decepticon Alliance one that can compete in events, but it takes everybody's contribution. Again, if you are able to meet AOE Defiance's bare minimum 5k, you may be considered for moving up during the next leaderboard event and coming back with a shiny 3-star bot. Let's all work hard!

We finished in 861st place. One spot outside of last place for the event, and secured ZERO Gnaw crystals as a result. This is the first time Seibertron has ever failed to get the new character, and I am disappointed in all of you who failed to meet our minimum requirement without adequate notice.

I'm sure some of you would like to say that if I hadn't kicked the undercontributors on Saturday night, then we would have scored enough points. With only 69 points separating us from the last place team, basically 2 more fights would have kept us in the running, and yes, just about anyone could have done that. However, as I said, if all our members had at least scored the minimum, we would be higher on the leaderboard and not having to stress over being in last place at all. Maybe this dose of reality will make everybody realize why we've been pushing you all with minimums and inspections. Happy Halloween, we have much to discuss for next time.

25 Gnaw crystals ... 25 2* Gnaws.

Word going around is one of the guys at the top went through 100 crystals and got all 2*'s.

Well, as Kuuga said, we had an opportunity this weekend that we couldn't pass up.

I want to publicly thank AOE Defiance for having us. We couldn't have asked for a better host for the weekend, they truly are some of the best people we have had the pleasure of working with.

We ended up sending 7 Seibertronians to them, all of them scoring above the minimum required. 4 of of us were in the top 10 all/most of the weekend. The rest in the top 25. Dizz having taken and held on to, and ended in the #1 spot. Good job Dizzy! A few of us even outscored Defiance's minimum requirement (Seibertron had 2000 points less for our requirement).

At the end of the event, Defiance ranked 173, which was well above goal. Throp was aiming for 268. We ended up with 14 crystals (of which I got 14 2 stars) and I hear that Kurthy got a 4 star Gnaw! WOoohoo!

Thank you again Defiance!!!!

Seibertron alliance... we need to talk... and you won't like it.

Top 10 Dizzy, me, Galaxy, and Mooch!




Remeo and Kurthy!



And Megatronus!

If anyone cares, there's an update out. At this stage it's just the new Combiner related load screens. On team selection it says something about combiner inactive, other than that, no enigma of combination.

Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

megatronus wrote:Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

Haha!! Because Razorclaw turns into a cat

Seriously though, very nice. 4* anything, I'll never see the day!

I thought a Decepticon 4-star was a myth...

I'm kind of really upset about how they handled this event. Both Space Ape and the alliance itself. I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before? Cause it's nonsense and punished not only us, but any smaller alliance out there too. It should've been the top 2000 get at least 1 crystal OR your first completion of the rewards gets you a crystal. I'm also upset about how boot happy the admin (That Bot I think) got with low scorers. It's one thing to kick people that haven't done anything, but those low scores could've gotten us the points for one crystal if they hadn't been kicked. What happened to the old policy where people from II were supposed to move up for the even for the rewards? I can see wanting to get the top performers in before anyone else but those little guys do help for events, and it doesn't hurt the war rankings (assuming no one decides to launch one) and it helps more people out.

Railbomb wrote:I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before?

Nope, this is the first time - an experiment I hope they see fit to never carry out again. While I didn't like the old system it was far, far better.

Railbomb wrote:I'm kind of really upset about how they handled this event. Both Space Ape and the alliance itself. I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before? Cause it's nonsense and punished not only us, but any smaller alliance out there too. It should've been the top 2000 get at least 1 crystal OR your first completion of the rewards gets you a crystal. I'm also upset about how boot happy the admin (That Bot I think) got with low scorers. It's one thing to kick people that haven't done anything, but those low scores could've gotten us the points for one crystal if they hadn't been kicked. What happened to the old policy where people from II were supposed to move up for the even for the rewards? I can see wanting to get the top performers in before anyone else but those little guys do help for events, and it doesn't hurt the war rankings (assuming no one decides to launch one) and it helps more people out.

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megatronus wrote:Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

Nice!


I wonder what the drop rate for this is.

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

Nice!


I wonder what the drop rate for this is.

Probably less than 1 in 100. Pretty lame.

Kurona wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before?

Nope, this is the first time - an experiment I hope they see fit to never carry out again. While I didn't like the old system it was far, far better.

Yea the old system is much better. Folks in my alliance are super miffed. We have a good deal of spenders and very few got anything of worth. At least before, you fought for a guarantee. Here, there's just a small chance you'll get something decent.

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

Nice!


I wonder what the drop rate for this is.

Probably less than 1 in 100. Pretty lame.

Did you get anything good from the shards?

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:Well, look what the Razorclaw dragged in...

Nice!


I wonder what the drop rate for this is.

Probably less than 1 in 100. Pretty lame.

Did you get anything good from the shards?

Dupe soup.

megatronus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before?

Nope, this is the first time - an experiment I hope they see fit to never carry out again. While I didn't like the old system it was far, far better.

Yea the old system is much better. Folks in my alliance are super miffed. We have a good deal of spenders and very few got anything of worth. At least before, you fought for a guarantee. Here, there's just a small chance you'll get something decent.

I'm sure it's reaction to the rather elitist way 4 star event characters are handed out.

Mind you I am not knocking the way they do it or those that get them, but there is only so many who can get them. Which is the point of the game... but people in general are whiny and entitled. And forced them to even the playing field a bit. Big alliances... welcome to our world. It sucks. Just buck up and take it kick on the butt. There will always be more money to he had with the old system, I'm sure they'll go back (when the entitled people whine they only got a 2 star Gnaw)

I am perfectly fine with whatever system they use. I ended up with 14 2 star Gnaws, so I got a decent bit of spark which is what I need anyway. I am no worse off than I was in any other leader board event. I just have a pet to throw at level 11 bases in war.

megatronus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before?

Nope, this is the first time - an experiment I hope they see fit to never carry out again. While I didn't like the old system it was far, far better.

Yea the old system is much better. Folks in my alliance are super miffed. We have a good deal of spenders and very few got anything of worth. At least before, you fought for a guarantee. Here, there's just a small chance you'll get something decent.

Theres only one person in my alliance that got a 4* so far. 1 out of 30 crystals out of 40 players. hahahah
I'm sure not everyone has opened used their crystals yet but these odds don't look good.

ctrlFrequency wrote:I'm sure it's reaction to the rather elitist way 4 star event characters are handed out.

Mind you I am not knocking the way they do it or those that get them, but there is only so many who can get them. Which is the point of the game... but people in general are whiny and entitled. And forced them to even the playing field a bit. Big alliances... welcome to our world. It sucks. Just buck up and take it kick on the butt. There will always be more money to he had with the old system, I'm sure they'll go back (when the entitled people whine they only got a 2 star Gnaw)

I am perfectly fine with whatever system they use. I ended up with 14 2 star Gnaws, so I got a decent bit of spark which is what I need anyway. I am no worse off than I was in any other leader board event. I just have a pet to throw at level 11 bases in war.

Well, yes, it's elitist. All f2p / p2w games are elitist - Space Ape purposely designed it to be that way, so you can't blame the folks who pay to win and are frustrated about paying, but not winning. You know?

I didn't spend anything on this event, so it's ironic I got a 4*. But it seems the audience for this game was always a bit smaller than Space Ape wanted, and now some older players are burning out. I'm sure this was an experiment to see how SA could entice newer or f2p players into a p2w model.

I have no problem with it being elitist. I Have no problem with people who pay getting these top prizes. Especially with the amounts i'm sure some people pay.

However, my point was, there are plenty of people out there that do whine they deserve everything without paying a dime or having to work for it. I am not one of those people. I buy things in game occasionally, mainly crystals, I understand that unless I am in a top alliance I won't get those 4 star event crystals. I just can't get upset that you do get them. It would be nice if the premium crystalso held a better chance of spitting out a 4 star though :/

Just those of you from top alliances got the experience that sucks. Sorry

I just need to point out that those who did spend a lot of money and are mad they didn't get a 4 star Gnaw need to remember you paid for a CHANCE to get the character.

Protest away about the event. I hated the format, that I won't complain about. Protest louder than the Facebook whiners that got us the event we had last weekend, though (they are a loud bunch)

mooncake623 wrote:

megatronus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Railbomb wrote:I only started playing a few weeks ago but have they done a "leaderboard-only character" event before?

Nope, this is the first time - an experiment I hope they see fit to never carry out again. While I didn't like the old system it was far, far better.

Yea the old system is much better. Folks in my alliance are super miffed. We have a good deal of spenders and very few got anything of worth. At least before, you fought for a guarantee. Here, there's just a small chance you'll get something decent.

Theres only one person in my alliance that got a 4* so far. 1 out of 30 crystals out of 40 players. hahahah
I'm sure not everyone has opened used their crystals yet but these odds don't look good.

The best we did was one 3*. Everyone else got 2*

Out of my 40 crystals, I got 39 2* and one 3*. I thought I was really unlucky until I heard about all the people that had worse pulls than me. Hopefully they don't do this type of event again, but they probably made a boatload off the increased competition and will end up doing it again. And now they are sitting back laughing their butts off at the terrible droprates and ensuing salt storm.

ctrlFrequency wrote:I have no problem with it being elitist. I Have no problem with people who pay getting these top prizes. Especially with the amounts i'm sure some people pay.

However, my point was, there are plenty of people out there that do whine they deserve everything without paying a dime or having to work for it. I am not one of those people. I buy things in game occasionally, mainly crystals, I understand that unless I am in a top alliance I won't get those 4 star event crystals. I just can't get upset that you do get them. It would be nice if the premium crystalso held a better chance of spitting out a 4 star though :/

Just those of you from top alliances got the experience that sucks. Sorry

I just need to point out that those who did spend a lot of money and are mad they didn't get a 4 star Gnaw need to remember you paid for a CHANCE to get the character.

Protest away about the event. I hated the format, that I won't complain about. Protest louder than the Facebook whiners that got us the event we had last weekend, though (they are a loud bunch)

I'm not protesting, I just sympathize with my alliance mates. They know they spent for a chance, but these drop rates were bad even by historical standards. What sucks is SA doesn't specify what the actual drop rates are, so there's no real telling what kind of chance you have. I mean, these are beyond first world problems.

I was actually fine with last week's event - I thought the Cyclonus / Hot Spot event was better, but I'll take any event that gives me a few hundred 4* shards over the post-event uproar this one caused.

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