Rated X wrote:Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it.
primalxconvoy wrote:If not, then I might actually buy my first 3rd party combiner, Green Giant, as I think (please, someone, post some comparrison pics!) it's in "scale" with the regular Combiner Wars gestaults, right?
primalxconvoy wrote:I think Hasbro have really dropped the ball here. I don't think kids will buy (all) of the toys (as they all look "the same") individually, and the price of such a huge toy will put parents off. I also think most collectors are either on the fence, or will just get a third party for this combiner instead.
Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
It's also a strawman seeing as so few people in this thread have been making any such arguments.
I don't care about scale for the most part when it comes to toys. I might try to put figures together that scale to each other for display, but proper scale is just not a big deal to me. I like the idea of a BIG Devastator, which is why I am buying this. In any event, I'll likely display him on his own anyway since he won't fit on my shelf.
shajaki wrote:
Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:MrBlack wrote:Rated X wrote:It Is Him wrote:Burn wrote:Brace yourself for posts hating on the siz...nevermind, RX has already been.
Well that's because by RX logic, Hasbro doesn't make real Transformers.
No, my logic is just because somebody did something first, doesn't mean they did it best.
Its just funny how many people are sugarcoating the size and forcing themselves to like it just because Hasbro made it. Ive never seen so many fan made theories on why devastator is bigger than the other combiners. Theyre willing to erase the G1 cartoon from their minds just to accommodate a Hasbro business decision. This set of pictures made every penny I spent on Hercules and upgrades worth it. ($750-800) Hell, I would have dropped a grand before trying to sugarcoat this oversized mess and shoehorn him into my collection. Thats just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, I know many will.
Or some of us just don't care about scale, at least when it comes to this particular toy.
Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean that there is something faulty with their logic. Not everyone is "sugarcoating the size" or "forcing themselves to like it."
And what makes "this particular toy" worthy of not caring about scale ? If someone likes the character enough to exempt scale from their requirements, they can just flat out say they are buying it because they are a super-duper devy fan. Theres no need to make up fan fiction to try to justify shoehorning it into your collection. Creating proposed cybertronian science theories on why devy is bigger than the other combiners just shows insecurity about the figures size. And that IS sugarcoating.
It's also a strawman seeing as so few people in this thread have been making any such arguments.
I don't care about scale for the most part when it comes to toys. I might try to put figures together that scale to each other for display, but proper scale is just not a big deal to me. I like the idea of a BIG Devastator, which is why I am buying this. In any event, I'll likely display him on his own anyway since he won't fit on my shelf.
Well whenever somebody hits you with the ol strawman accusation its safe to say we agree to disagree.
But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
carytheone wrote:shajaki wrote:
I like robits, but I also like robutts...
MrBlack wrote:
carytheone wrote:MrBlack wrote:
NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!
Autobot032 wrote:Thanks to fellow fan and collector Johnny Lau over on Weibo, we have several in-hand images of the upcoming Titan Class Devastator to share with you!
...including size comparisons! Considering he's 18 inches tall and most of the other Combiner Wars combiners are roughly a foot tall at or around 12 inches tall, he dwarfs them by quite a bit. He's a massive beast and looks to be well worth the $150.00 asking price.
Without further ado, the images in question, comparisons and all:
Keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!
Rated X wrote:But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
You're argument falls flat here since that giant Optimus toy is a Rescue Bot that doesn't even transform at all. Does it not make sense to photograph a toddler next to a preschool toy?Rated X wrote:carytheone wrote:MrBlack wrote:
NOW, this is a scale worth defending! Mega Ultra Class Optimus will destroy your puny Devastator!
That "official" pic pretty much confirms the intended audience for larger scale "simplified" figures. In the "official" pictures of superion and menasor being played with, the kids were practically entering puberty.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
phantom1592 wrote:Rated X wrote:But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
Personally, I think of Devy as the RIGHT scale.
It doesn't help that scale in the old media was drastically inconsistent... but when I remember back, I think of Devastator as this gigantic beast of destruction. The kind that reaches down and grabs other autobots and pummels them.
I remember some early appearances where the heroes practically wet themselves when he starts to combine. THAT is the right scale. Superion and menasor? I never had the same connection with them. They came later, they never seemed special. They were just Hasbros' way of making more money back then. I have no problem with the bandwagon jumpers being a bit smaller... a bit less impressive then DEVASTATOR. And the idea that it'll take Superion, Defensor, Ultra Prime and every other autobot to stand a chance against it... Kinda makes me a bit giddy
skidflap wrote:phantom1592 wrote:Rated X wrote:But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
Personally, I think of Devy as the RIGHT scale.
It doesn't help that scale in the old media was drastically inconsistent... but when I remember back, I think of Devastator as this gigantic beast of destruction. The kind that reaches down and grabs other autobots and pummels them.
I remember some early appearances where the heroes practically wet themselves when he starts to combine. THAT is the right scale. Superion and menasor? I never had the same connection with them. They came later, they never seemed special. They were just Hasbros' way of making more money back then. I have no problem with the bandwagon jumpers being a bit smaller... a bit less impressive then DEVASTATOR. And the idea that it'll take Superion, Defensor, Ultra Prime and every other autobot to stand a chance against it... Kinda makes me a bit giddy
Looking at devastator, i think he will scale nicely with the leader class figures.
phantom1592 wrote:
Carnivius_Prime wrote:phantom1592 wrote:
Ugh... I'd forgotten how terrible the proportions were in that comic. Ridiculously sized combiner forms. Devastator ain't even in scale to his own face there...
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Rated X wrote:But seriously, why does Devy get a free pass with scale ? If it was menasor or Superion who got the super sized kiddie treatment half of these people would be in an uproar. They would all complain about how he doesnt scale with his arch rival. (I would too) But why does devy get a free pass ? Is it because all of his arch rivals werent combiners in the G1 cartoon ? (Omega supreme and dinobots) Am I the only one on this site that remembers when Bruticus kicked Devys ass ? If the theme is indeed "Combiner Wars" shouldnt they scale with each other for epic face offs and battles ? Or am I right about devy being made purposely as a big super sized kiddie toy targeting generous parents ? I dont "play" with my figures, I display them. So I need a devy that scales with the other combiners. I could care less about the scale of construction vehicles. I collect robots, not tonka trucks.
Devy was the original Combiner, which makes him really special to many of us. And he has had a fair share of foes who took a lot to beat him: Omega was his enemy a good bit of the time and he's a frikkin rocket ship and base! Plus, more recently, it took both Superion and Defensor to beat him, so he's got a record everywhere he goes. Plus he's make of 6 big guys, and honestly if each was a deluxe, he'd be dwarfed by the torso pieces for the regular combiners.
Besides, he looks cool to me, I really like how he looks, it'll be my first G1 Devy and honestly, I'm not too picky. I like Hastak stuff, and I don't do 3rd party stuff, so I guess I'm just a simple collector who has a wide variety of likes. I'm not picky. And most people are like that too.
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