Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:07 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Long Haul must be a father. We all have eyes on the backs of our heads...
I thought it was moms who had those.

Did Mommy lie to me?!

Well, I'm a little fuzzy on the whole Transformers Gender thing...perhaps Long Haul is a mother? Of course, your Swoop not being a dinosaur comment in that other thread may have fried my brains....

It fried mine. I can legitimately say that my mommy did lie to me about that.
You think that was brain-frying? Get this, the term "Brontosaurus" has been just made legit as of this year!

Yeah, I just read that the other day. So, I have hope that, indeed, pterosaurs will be dinos again one day (for the first time?) Oh, and yes, I do have eyes on the back of my head, so don't tell my son otherwise!!

Now, all we need to figure out is who is Long Haul's child...

Indeed, I might need to go to bed now... :BOOM:

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:13 pm

Agamemnon wrote:Now, all we need to figure out is who is Long Haul's child...

I'm thinking Energon Demolishor.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Sun Apr 12, 2015 9:28 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Agamemnon wrote:Now, all we need to figure out is who is Long Haul's child...
I'm thinking Energon Demolishor.

And for the second time tonight, Sabrblade has... :BOOM:

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:18 am

Rated X wrote:Plus mixmaster should not transform into a rolling sesstank.

Starsaber468 wrote:An hasbro mistransforms things when they show off transformers plus mixmaster is probably shown backwards and geeze the arms are mistransformed

I'd like to address something that hasn't been beaten to death yet, the change in Mixmaster's alt mode.
Here's New Mixmaster:

*clears throat*

These exist.

This:

Is not the only type of cement truck.

Why they changed it, I'm not clear on, since i don't think drum-forward trucks are any bigger than drum-backward trucks, but we're stuck with it.
Except we're probably not. We all know how much the third party market tries to fix Hasbro's figures, even with fixes that probably didn't need fixing. Someone will make a traditional Mixmaster, arms with elbows for everybody, better hands for Devy, and a bigger head. You can bet on it.

News Credits: 2 · by **Allenspurs** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:10 am

I'm tempted to call out long haul as having the worst/useless arms of any transformer but I'm sure I will get hammered with images showing me otherwise. Lol

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:32 am

That Bot wrote:Why they changed it, I'm not clear on, since i don't think drum-forward trucks are any bigger than drum-backward trucks, but we're stuck with it.

Wiki to the rescue.

Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

News Credits: 4531 · by **william-james88** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:45 am

Sabrblade wrote:
That Bot wrote:Why they changed it, I'm not clear on, since i don't think drum-forward trucks are any bigger than drum-backward trucks, but we're stuck with it.
Wiki to the rescue.
Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

I do understand the critiques though. The whole point behind this devastator was to fulfill the following line (or so it seems): A big G1 devastator made with today's toy engineering. Which is what CW Superion is pretty much. All the individual bots are still very simple and have that G1 bulk to them but have better articulation than G1. And as I showed with the head, all the deco and style is made to represent G1 devastator on the cartoon. So then it does seem odd that one of the lat modes have changed. It upsets ever so slightly the theme they had going for this guy. He was much less about updating the alt modes than any other Classics toy that came before so bringing that aspect back does clash a bit.

I am still getting him since he looks awesome, but I just wanted to say why I do see where people are coming from and I wouldn't call that nitpicking due to the overall theme that's going on with this figure.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:37 am

Sabrblade wrote:Wiki to the rescue.
Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

That is really weird considering RotF Mixmaster.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 8:40 am

Noideaforaname wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wiki to the rescue.
Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

That is really weird considering RotF Mixmaster.

Was ROTF Long Haul also a mining dump truck?

Or, it could have been a case where it was okay since ROTF Mixmaster only formed Devastator's head, which is a much smaller body part than a leg.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wiki to the rescue.
Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

That is really weird considering RotF Mixmaster.
Was ROTF Long Haul also a mining dump truck?

Or, it could have been a case where it was okay since ROTF Mixmaster only formed Devastator's head, which is a much smaller body part than a leg.

Yes. yes, he was...

[Edit] And having owned the legends movie Devastator, it suffered from all sorts of scale issues that were well hidden in the movie....

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:13 am

Yeah, all the RotF Constructicons were huge mining vehicles, like the design team looked for the largest of each type they could find.

Or, it could have been a case where it was okay since ROTF Mixmaster only formed Devastator's head, which is a much smaller body part than a leg.

That's true.

Although now I'm trying to look to see how big any kind of cement mixer can get and I'm not really finding anything. Type in "world's largest (other construction vehicles)" and you get loads of impressive pics where a person barely comes up to the machine's hubcap, but all the "world's largest cement mixers" can still drive down a normal street...

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:14 am

Agamemnon wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Wiki to the rescue.
Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

That is really weird considering RotF Mixmaster.
Was ROTF Long Haul also a mining dump truck?

Or, it could have been a case where it was okay since ROTF Mixmaster only formed Devastator's head, which is a much smaller body part than a leg.

Yes. yes, he was...

Then I guess it must have been the latter case with Mixmaster permitted to be smaller since he "formed the head", so to speak.

News Credits: 10 · by **Agamemnon** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 10:13 am

Noideaforaname wrote:Yeah, all the RotF Constructicons were huge mining vehicles, like the design team looked for the largest of each type they could find.

Or, it could have been a case where it was okay since ROTF Mixmaster only formed Devastator's head, which is a much smaller body part than a leg.

That's true.

Although now I'm trying to look to see how big any kind of cement mixer can get and I'm not really finding anything. Type in "world's largest (other construction vehicles)" and you get loads of impressive pics where a person barely comes up to the machine's hubcap, but all the "world's largest cement mixers" can still drive down a normal street...

I found a couple of really large ones, including one that is a semi:

Approximate G1 Mixmaster

Semi based mixer: :shock:

Generations Mixmaster:

But, yeah, in general, I don't think there is much demand for huge cement trucks. The actual applications of needing that much concrete is pretty rare, and can be accounted for by providing a quantity of trucks. Plus, why would concrete be needed in a mining operation? (And while this is fun, I am aware of the ironic nature of trying to apply logic to such a discussion. Still, it's fun. 8-}

)

Sabrblade wrote:Then I guess it must have been the latter case with Mixmaster permitted to be smaller since he "formed the head", so to speak.

Indeed, I think you are correct.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:58 pm

Allenspurs wrote:I'm tempted to call out long haul as having the worst/useless arms of any transformer but I'm sure I will get hammered with images showing me otherwise. Lol

Well, if you insist...

(Admittedly, Battletrap is low-hanging fruit in this department.)

News Credits: 2 · by **Allenspurs** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 3:09 pm

Does battletrap even have any arms in that image?

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:08 pm

Allenspurs wrote:Does battletrap even have any arms in that image?

I think he has fingers molded into his side panels.

by **Optimum Supreme** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 5:41 pm

Nemesis Primal wrote:
Allenspurs wrote:I'm tempted to call out long haul as having the worst/useless arms of any transformer but I'm sure I will get hammered with images showing me otherwise. Lol

Well, if you insist...

(Admittedly, Battletrap is low-hanging fruit in this department.)

I would have gone with a Throttlebot, but yeah, that works too.

News Credits: 4 · by **Tsutsukakushi** » Mon Apr 13, 2015 9:59 pm

For HasTak's CHUG toy line. Titan Mixmaster's vehicle mode is close enough to the original. I've seen worse updates in the CHUG toy line and this isn't it.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Sat May 09, 2015 8:36 am

Thanks to CYBERGEEKS Alliance on Facebook for sharing some in-hand images of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Titan class Devastator, we get a proper look of how big he really is! In these photos you can see Devastator next to a monitor to let you really grasp the size of this guy. Check out the images we've mirrored below, and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

News Credits: 62 · by **Primeultimus** » Sat May 09, 2015 8:40 am

FYI I posted this originally on Facebook on Transformers Addicts

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

And transformers 4 life where I am the Admin

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

And Tokyo Toys where I am the Admin

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Daim Choc Posted it afterwards and tagged me with credit as well

https://www.facebook.com/daim.choc?fref=ts

News Credits: 4531 · by **william-james88** » Sat May 09, 2015 9:12 am

Primeultimus wrote:Transformers Addicts

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

And transformers 4 life

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

And Tokyo Toys

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

What's with all the broken links that dont lead anywhere?