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News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:02 am

I keep thinking that the reason the retailers other than TRU wouldn't stock these more expensive toys is because they just can't move such hi dollar toys, but then it occurred to me, they sell plenty of Legos. Every day. Those larger sets get really expensive. Maybe it is a space issue. But also, maybe there is hope.

News Credits: 4524 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:13 am

Here's a rundown of other points brought up at the toyfair that I didnt see posted elsehwere on this thread yet:

Each of Titan Class Devastator's components is roughly the size of the original Devastator toy.

Titan Devastator was a collaboration between designers John Warden and TakaraTomy's Shogo Hasui, who was driven by an almost-religious fervor to see that Devastator reached perfection (and reportedly got very little sleep in the process).

With Titan Devastator considered the one chance to do an accurate "dream scale" Devastator that would appeal to both hardcore and casual fans, Hasbro did not want to commit to doing "Prowlastator," given that concept's relatively recent introduction into the lore.

While the color layout of the Devastator on display was final - including painted black "windows" on his Mixmaster foot - the green will be changed for better consistency on the finished product.

Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

Devastator's poseability includes "monster hip joints" and rocker ankles on both sides.

A presenter suggested that it would be pretty awesome to see Devastator redone as the Build Team.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:29 am

A presenter suggested that it would be pretty awesome to see Devastator redone as the Build Team.

Great minds think alike ;;)

Sixbuilder or Build King, I don't care.

News Credits: 4524 · by **william-james88** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:40 am

I am not a fan of the following double standard though:

With Titan Devastator considered the one chance to do an accurate "dream scale" Devastator that would appeal to both hardcore and casual fans, Hasbro did not want to commit to doing "Prowlastator," given that concept's relatively recent introduction into the lore.

and

Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

I never cared about either change or non change but I do not like lack of consistency in reasoning for design.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 11:45 am

Hmm well IDW is a nice consolation prize, but prowlastator would of been awesome. ..maybe next years titan class..

by **phantom1592** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:I am not a fan of the following double standard though:

With Titan Devastator considered the one chance to do an accurate "dream scale" Devastator that would appeal to both hardcore and casual fans, Hasbro did not want to commit to doing "Prowlastator," given that concept's relatively recent introduction into the lore.

and

Mixmaster's change into an industrial cement mixer came about both to modernize him and to bring him into better scale with Long Haul's gigantic "mining dump truck" altmode.

I never cared about either change or non change but I do not like lack of consistency in reasoning for design.

/shrug

I don't really see it as a double standard though... They DO want to appeal to causal fans. To Casual Fans, Devastator is construction vehicles... Casual fans probably wouldn't have noticed the foot was slightly updated if the hard core fans didn't point it out. I certaintly didn't.

However, if there 5 construction vehicles and a police car.... As a casual fan I would have considered it a MASSIVE wasted opportunity. SoOOOO close to the dream, then tanked for the sake of a recent comic...

Prowlastator would have appealed to Fans of the comics... but I suspect that is a smaller slice of the pie. For something THIS big, it really was best to go as iconic as possible. Changing a mixing truck to a mixing truck? Less of a big deal.

Besides, I suppose it's possible for them to release a prowl separately later to plug in there... maybe? sorta?

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:41 pm

"Prowlvestator" is TOO NEW!
Ultra Magnus comes with Minimus Ambus.

Let's apply scale to EVERYTHING!
Everybody's got an F1 race car combined with their jets and helicopters.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:43 pm

phantom1592 wrote:Besides, I suppose it's possible for them to release a prowl separately later to plug in there... maybe? sorta?

I don't see how Hook will combine as a leg though... :-?

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:46 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:Besides, I suppose it's possible for them to release a prowl separately later to plug in there... maybe? sorta?

I don't see how Hook will combine as a leg though...

I can see a 3P group doing a two pack consisting of a compatible Prowl and a reengineered Hook to form the left leg.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:53 pm

Mindmaster wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
phantom1592 wrote:Besides, I suppose it's possible for them to release a prowl separately later to plug in there... maybe? sorta?

I don't see how Hook will combine as a leg though...

I can see a 3P group doing a two pack consisting of a compatible Prowl and a reengineered Hook to form the left leg.

I would buy that

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:00 pm

Cobotron wrote:I keep thinking that the reason the retailers other than TRU wouldn't stock these more expensive toys is because they just can't move such hi dollar toys, but then it occurred to me, they sell plenty of Legos. Every day. Those larger sets get really expensive. Maybe it is a space issue. But also, maybe there is hope.

Lego is like the #1 toy in the galaxy so stores can afford to have those larger, pricier sets on shelves. Keep in mind there are these super deluxe sets that sell for thousands of dollars only available at select locations. In non movie years Transformers has a hard time selling since there isn't a ton of interest. I hate to say it but that's how it is.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Feb 20, 2015 5:33 pm

Marcelo Matere
Combiner Wars Devastator package art pencils - 2014 - I'm allowed to post this image. The studio that does the color for the Transformers Legends game worked on the colors for the final illustration ! Prepare for extermination!

by **RiddlerJ** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:28 am

Do the individual Constructicons come with weapons? I see Bonecrusher and Scavenger have them (really Devy's hands converted), but no the others.

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:14 am

Devastator's chest shield and gun split apart for individual weapons.
Best example:

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:36 pm

A tip from fellow Seibertronian shajaki brings us the linework by Marcelo Matere for the box art of the recently revealed Hasbro Transformers Combiner Wars Devastator. You can find the image mirrored below, showing off the gestalt form as it appears before colouring and glossing, and in its extended version. Enough to make you want to keep the toy's box too?

News Credits: 379 · by **Bounti76** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:59 pm

If only the actual Mixmaster toy's foot mode looked like that. Beautiful work.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:10 pm

Looks like he just drew a stylized illustration of the 1985 toy instead of using the new Titan figure as a reference.

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:18 pm

yes sir i like it

News Credits: 19 · by **Fires_Of_Inferno** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:38 pm

Very nice artwork. More G1 Devastator than CW Devastator, but still nice. The box is WAY too big for me to want to keep though!

News Credits: 1 · by **Alpha Dominus** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:43 pm

Mixmaster foot corrections or not this is awesome. This makes me want to see more of the transformer card artwork in all it's raw, line art glory.

News Credits: 2 · by **BERSEKAEL** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:50 pm

hope on a 3rd party to fix that headsculpt :SICK:

by **Rated X** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:55 pm

Damn...

They tried everyone with that beautiful Mixmaster drawing. But in reality you get a toilet on wheels. :SICK:

by **griftimus prime** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 5:06 pm

cool but the toy looks different

by **RiddlerJ** » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:02 pm

I'm torn on this. I have Hercules (I thought it was Green Giant but I mixed the two up) which I think is a good hefty solid Devastator. You could throw one of those components through a window.

But the individual guys don't really match the actual Constucticons as much as I'd like. These guys do, although they also look flimsier and I'm not keen on spending $150.00 after spending $400-$500 on the other set.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:35 am

Rated X wrote:Damn...

They tried everyone with that beautiful Mixmaster drawing. But in reality you get a toilet on wheels.

I look at the new Mixmaster and I see..... a mixer-forward cement truck. If anybody's a toilet on wheels, it's Long Haul because he's a DUMP truck..... anybody? Anybody? Okay I'm sorry that was funnier in my head.