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New Pictures have shown up on TaoBao.com of the upcoming Transformers Subscription Service (TFSS) 3.0 Nacelle and G2 Starscream. These appear to be the final versions of what everyone is going to be receiving! If you've sign up for the Subscription Service this could be an indication that you could be getting yours before you know it! Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

Seekers first, huh?

Have to say, these two were massive, solid "wins" for the club. Excellent choices. One pairs with G2 Ramjet (and the Botcon set). The other is a deep, deep, obscure, reference of one of the earliest G1 Transformers that was never released. Very pleased with these two.

Good thing his mold is worn out. How many "club exclusives" has this mold raked out of the fandom at $45 a pop? It is funny to me that they can take this mold, color it in any combination of colors, slap some half assed name on it, sell it to people at a premium, and people will actually spend their hard earned cash in it.

Silliness...........

gothsaurus wrote:Have to say, these two were massive, solid "wins" for the club. Excellent choices. One pairs with G2 Ramjet (and the Botcon set). The other is a deep, deep, obscure, reference of one of the earliest G1 Transformers that was never released. Very pleased with these two.

Gotta agree. If this is the last use of the mould it's a good way to go out.

It costs more per toy to make a handful than hundreds of thousands. Exclusives are always going to cost more. It's just comes with the territory of getting rare, limited edition stuff.

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

I want both, but I'm more excited about Nacelle. Such a fun character.

G2 Starscream, however... That spawn of a glitch!

I mostly want it because the colors look good on the mold.

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype, and in fiction it's explained he upgraded his body. Simple.

gothsaurus wrote:It costs more per toy to make a handful than hundreds of thousands. Exclusives are always going to cost more. It's just comes with the territory of getting rare, limited edition stuff.

That would be logical if this mold had not paid for itself after Starscreams release.

A batch of 5000 toys from an existing mold is not going to cost much. I would estimate that one of these can be created from beginning to end for about $2 each. The rest is so you can pay for the CEO's multimillion dollar bonus, the enormous dividends, and the profit demands of a worldwide company in general.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

It's what they're based on what gets people, not necessarily the characterisation.

Nacelle was relevant to the TCC story he appeared in. Twas one of its scene-stealing characters, even.

shockblast2 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockblast2 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I must ask, why does everyone want Redwing so damn bad? Wasn't he literally a 1-frame generic in the cartoon?

That is an excellent example of what I am talking about.

Redwing. Gee...I wonder why they named it that?

Nope, Red Wing is totally new. That one-shot was Nacelle, in an all blue generic Seeker body. For TFSS however, they took inspiration from the blue Thrust prototype.

My point is that these people can slap any silly name on these "exclusives" , charge 3-5x more than retail, and people buy it. I don't get it. They are not even characters that are relevant to anything whatsoever, except their highway robbery of the masses. I like Transformers as much as the next guy, but that is a complete waste of money.

Different strokes for different folks. Some people would argue paying a lot for ANY toy .... or just buying toys period after a certain age is a waste of money.

Yeah, I think the real point is the club is trying hard to put out some obscure, cool stuff...plus some fan-favorite toys that Hasbro dropped the ball on. (Usually for some legit reason... a new series is coming out soon, or because they can't have too many items on the shelf the same color or vehicle.)

I think this 3.0 round has some really thoughtful ideas in it, and I'm excited about 'em.

So don't harsh my buzz, man!

Best mold ever ! Screw the hating ass s**t I want a Redwing. I would drop 100 for an official Redwing any day cause I CAN...

so if the classics seeker mold is (insert furmanism here)

what mold will they use now?

thy could possibly use the Energon Starscream mold it has potential it had only been used for said character, sky-quake , lyzack , leozack , and that is about it to my knowledge has yet to be used as obscure g1 characters / original g1 seekers , that would be inserted in timelines issues ....

Agreed on buying a Red Wing. Hopefully they can swing that for a store exclusive or something next year. Though I hope and pray it wouldn't be $100.

Rated X wrote:Best mold ever ! Screw the hating ass s**t I want a Redwing. I would drop 100 for an official Redwing any day cause I CAN...

Werd.

oh. The mold isn't destroyed, they just said they were kinda done with it. They could still make a Red Wing if fan support dictated.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Different strokes for different folks. Some people would argue paying a lot for ANY toy .... or just buying toys period after a certain age is a waste of money.

This

Originally, I was least excited for these Seekers... but I've come to adore the Botcon 2007 Thrust mold too much to pile any hate on Nacelle, and G2 Starscream is just nice looking. Sigh.

I really wish the Club would create box sets for the Subscription figures. Sure, it was a new and experimental concept in the beginning, but now that the Subscription Service is established and successful, I think they have the latitude to experiment a bit.

These two are my most anticipated TFSS 3.0 figures. And probably some of the most anticipated figures for all of 2015.

Nacelle came out great despite being an idea I wasn't too thrilled about when I first heard it. His characterization and other details to make him stand out are really great.

G2 Starscream here looks fantastic and does a great job of mirroring the original details.

Speaking of Starscream, this G2 version is littered with paint.
Granted some of this might be stickers but he has:

-painted face
-painted eyes
-painted torso
-painted pectorals
-painted pectoral sides
-painted (or stickers) on feet
-painted knees
-painted knee vents
-painted shins
-painted missiles (they're white painted purple)
-painted missile launcher tops (they're light gray plastic)
-painted missile launcher centers (they're light gray plastic)
-painted vertical stabilizers (white plastic with gray and detailing)
-painted horizontal stabilizers (white plastic with gray and detailing)
-painted wings (they're white plastic)
-painted (or stickers) camouflage on wings
-painted symbols on wings
-painted wing detail on body
-painted sticker detail on backs of shoulder pylons
-painted sticker detail on fronts of shoulder pylons
-painted thrusters (they're gray plastic)
-painted canopy frame
-painted G2 symbol

Randy

Yeah, being 6 deluxes, they might be able to cram them all in a Botcon style box. Given, it might raise the price a bit, and they're already clocking in at "pricy" for a lot of people. Guessing that's why they haven't in the past.