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[Deadput]

Just watch Mirage's robot mode will end up look like G1 Jazz.

He will likely look like Jazz just as much as he's gonna look like Cliffjumper, Dead End, Nightbeat/Minerva, Backstreet or any other Porche Transformer.

I'm pretty sure that's what it means. Jazz gets left out of a lot Transformers media so this will be no different. He doesn't even cameo in the beginning of, Bumblebee, like so many of the other classic, Autobots.

Dude literally most characters get left out of the media these days if they aren't Optimus/Bumblebee/Ratchet/Arcee/Grimlock/Windblade

Using the Bumblebee Cybertron scene isn't much of an indicator either since that was a rushed scene created in a few months, literally every character there was reusing the frame of the Optimus/Bee/Shatter/Dropkick/Blitzwing designs that already existed such as Shockwave and Soundwave using Optimus as a base with additional parts on top, the only one Jazz would of fit would of been Dropkick.

The amount of classic Autobots that cameo is a really small number, Optimus/Bumblebee/Cliffjumper/Arcee/Ironhide/Ratchet/Wheeljack/Brawn are the only ones out of other potential Autobots.

Jazz has been in more recent things than Ironhide (Wasn't in Rid 2015 or Cyberverse, just the terrible Siege stuff) has so despite how little he gets these days he's still doing better than most.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Looking forward to seeing what they do with Mirage. To me, he is separate from Dino, so it'll be neat to have those 2 side by side in their alts, and hopefully so in their robot modes too

[NicholasPrime7]

Transformers Rise of the Beasts UPDATE #4

Leaked script and MORE on set pictures/videos

What do you think guys?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIoIJDjZVD0

[william-james88]

Cool stuff is going on in Montreal. Parts of downtown Montreal are looking like the 90s again with all the 90s cars around for the shoot. We have images of the set from the TransformersFR Facebook group. We even have a stunt driving video of Mirage and more shots of that specific car/character.

You'll let us know what you think!

Link to video: https://www.facebook.com/10000048754355 ... 993935880/

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[Sabrblade]

The video is dead.

[william-james88]

The video is dead.

It's because you are not a member of the page it was posted in. I got another link, should work now.

[william-james88]

Someone got a nice close up shot of Mirage's hood from the upcoming Transformers film Rise of the Beasts. We can see that instead of the Porsche badge on the hood, it's been replaced with an Autobot insignia. This is a nice nod to how Jazz looked like in the cartoon with the Autobot insignia also in the same spot in a very similar vehicle mode. Much smaller of course.

Also, many have wondered if having a Porsche in the film means that the license is good for the toys too and sadly this is not a given. Licenses for cars in movies and licenses to make toys of those cars are separate. Not to say it won't happen but that it's simply not a given, as we saw with Ferrari.

[YRQRM0]

Nice way to not have to put the logo on the figures

[Nemesis Reformatted]

I already hate this movie & I haven't even seen it. Sometimes you can just tell.

But on the bright side, I'll be saving a lot of money when I don't buy any of the toys.

I defended the first 4 movies from all the haters. I tried to overlook all the flaws. But now looking back & seeing the direction everything went in, I see that they were right. I can't overlook it anymore. The Last Knight snapped me out of it. And now seeing Mirage with Jazz' alt mode just makes me sick. It pisses me off just like what they did to Hot Rod in TLK.

And after watching Netflix Earthrise I just can't stomach the Transformers fiction anymore. I'll still buy some of the toys but I'm done with the horrible fiction. The last really good thing I saw was Transformers: Prime. Ever since Beast Hunters ended everything has been in the toilet.

[ZeroWolf]

So what did you think of Bumblebee then? Also you hate this movie just because this one got the porsche license? This isn't G1,who cares that they don't have exactly the same alt modes? Or the film makers are assigning alt modes after the fact.

Though it raises an interesting question...what comes first, car licensing or the script?

[Deadput]

It probably depends on how prominent the characters are, if I recall Hound and Drift in AOE were always concepted as those characters with those names while Crosshairs was a design made first and such before his final name was decided on just that "we have this Corvette Autobot"

I think it was similar with the Decepticons back in 2007, all the Autobots were designed as those characters but Barricade/Blackout/Brawl all went through several different names including Soundwave for the former two cons, heck even though Hasbro sees Brawl as well Brawl the name Devastator ended up in the film because it was the name Bay preferred although "officially" it's an error.

Uh in gist I think the vehicle modes for the main characters are decided before or during the script, so I think Mirage (who I'm going to guess with the info we have is at the least the third main Autobot) was written in the script as Mirage which would explain why the personalty/character traits describe to us sound way more like a Mirage then any form of Jazz since the latter has never been anti-authority or a "shapeshifter" which is an ability that fits the word "Mirage" as much as going invisible does.

Also depends on whether the movie makers pick the vehicle modes or a licenser donates a vehicle to be used in return for promoting the vehicle, which depends on each character for example 2007 Optimus/Ratchet were picked while ROTF Sideways and AOE Drift were the latter.

[TulioDude]

Looking forward to seeing what they do with Mirage. To me, he is separate from Dino, so it'll be neat to have those 2 side by side in their alts, and hopefully so in their robot modes too

I agree with this sentiment!



I been thinking about the number of characters in this movie.I know there is some worry about about how to fit them all in one story,but looking back at Bumblebee,shows how to balance that.
The Decepticons could be mentioned and few of them could appear,but they would stay out of the main conflict.
Form what we know,the Terorcons will be main threat,making the Autobots and Maximals fight together.

[Torneira]

So, instead of being Jazz, this Porsche is going to be Mirage? Seeing his colourscheme, the silver and the blue hood, it also could have been Blue Streak...?

But I hope they don't mix too much up. I am just confused sometimes with their decisions like some others I believe. Next thing they will make the Autobots the bad guys and the Decepticons heroic

[ZeroWolf]

So, instead of being Jazz, this Porsche is going to be Mirage? Seeing his colourscheme, the silver and the blue hood, it also could have been Blue Streak...?

But I hope they don't mix too much up. I am just confused sometimes with their decisions like some others I believe. Next thing they will make the Autobots the bad guys and the Decepticons heroic

They probably will end up doing a Shattered Glass movie at some point...

[william-james88]

We saw Mirage, and now it's time for the Autobot leader to roll out through the streets of Montreal. Thanks to photos posted by @ramdeenstudios, yova.prime and the Montreal Car Spotting group, we have shots of Optimus Prime in his truck mode. We also have a shot of Bumblebee roling out at the very same spot as the Prime truck. As can be seen, it 70s Camaro similar to what we had seen at the end of the Bumblebee film and at the beginning of the first Bay film. It is said that Bumblebee will not have this form for the entire film and will get an offroad update for a while. We have no clue what scenes are being shot afterall, whether it be for the end or beginning of the film. As we can see, this film will indeed be a mix of G1 callbacks (Prime truck), name slaps (Mirage), and Bayverse callbacks (Bumblebee) all rolled into one.

[Deadput]

I'm glad we are getting another shot at this version of the classic Camaro, really like that car and I feel like Bumblebee should of had it for the whole film in the 2007 one, regardless of what the robot mode looks like, I just like the car.

Optimus is also looking pretty cool, I like how it's distinct enough on it's own while still being a call back to the G1 counterpart.

Seems the truck is a modified version of the Bumblebee truck, which I think is pretty rad.

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

Very glad to see that Camaro again! Wonder how robot mode will change.

[Agent 53]

So it looks like the bullbar may actually be part of Optimus' new design, should be interesting to see how it is integrated into the robot mode design, and for that matter how the toys adapt that design.

[-Kanrabat-]

I see that they gave Optimus Prime his "big legs" in truck mode!

For once, the "inacurate" truck WILL be accurate!

[william-james88]

Optimus Prime and Mirage are rolling out together in Montreal and we have an image of them together. We also have a very clear image of Optimus' truck (cab) mode. That one was taken by Denis from the Transformersfr.com website and both images were posted on their Facebook page. People have noted that the bull guard addition to Optimus' truck mode was first seen on a toy from the Bumblebee movie so this truck design has been on the drawing board for a while and they are finally going with it for this film.

[-Kanrabat-]

Once again, I'm glad that they are going for a non-real truck with plenty of "meat" behind to allow for a proper traditional Optimus transformation.

[transformers_va]

I'm very happy to see a COE Optimus sans a stupid hot rod flame paintjob

Too bad we're still getting that crappy Camaro Bee, and that he's probably still a main character. If they have to include him, I REALLY hope they at least finally drop that "Bee doesn't have a voice" crap

[Sabrblade]

Too bad we're still getting that crappy Camaro Bee, and that he's probably still a main character. If they have to include him, I REALLY hope they at least finally drop that "Bee doesn't have a voice" crap

You know they won't do that. These Hollywood chums see it as too iconic to eliminate.

[transformers_va]

You know they won't do that. These Hollywood chums see it as too iconic to eliminate.

It's funny that this could be considered "iconic", as Bee was around long before the Bay movies, but I agree with you that they won't do that

[Sabrblade]

You know they won't do that. These Hollywood chums see it as too iconic to eliminate.

It's funny that this could be considered "iconic", as Bee was around long before the Bay movies, but I agree with you that they won't do that

Was he, though? He certainly disappeared into obscurity for over a decade after Hasbro lost his name. Like it or not, the first movie is what brought Bumblebee back into prominence and made him a household name for the brand. Before then, Bumblebee was just another name in a long list of Average Joes that only the hardcore fans cared about, with his role having since been replaced by the likes of Cheetor and Hot Shot. And it was the movie version of Bumblebee that became the standout version of the character, then one that made Hasbro boatloads of money. He and his dumb voice gimmick are too valuable to Paramount for them to give up either, especially after the most recent TF movie they made was specifically for him and his gimmick. Like it or not, we're stuck with him being a poor man's E.T. in these movies all thanks to one Mr. Steven Spielberg.