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[Noideaforaname]

Those package bios are reeaaaally boring.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Toy_Fair_2014

Read thru this, a few thoughts:
- There's a ridiculous amount of Autobots in the AoE line, and very few Decepticons.
- Kre-O becoming a TRU exclusive makes me sad.
- The number of dinosaur-related product is obscene. Kinda surprised they went with it after all the dragons (which are sort of like dinosaurs) last year... yet we couldn't get all the Constructicons during RotF for whatever reasons.
- Kre-O TRU exclusive in the US, no more Beast Hunters in the US, combined with how other recent lines went (i.e. not in the US, but everywhere else) I think we Americans finally have a counter to "but it's so much more expensive here!"

[Autobot032]

no more Beast Hunters in the US, combined with how other recent lines went (i.e. not in the US, but everywhere else) I think we Americans finally have a counter to "but it's so much more expensive here!"

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

[CrimsonPrime]

Hasbro finally swayed me. The proto at NYCC was awful, and while this one at Toy Fair isn't perfect, the production figure is certainly far better than I expected. (I think a lot of people will admit it's at least better than what was shown at NYCC.)

The "skirt" pieces having movement and folding tighter against the sides instead of being a straight up shellformer is great. I'm still not a fan of the backpack. I think they could've folded it down a bit more at the very least. Like swivel the wheels in and push the gas tanks up a bit. While that won't get rid of the backpack, it would certainly cut down on it a good deal.

Still, I'm impressed. I'll buy it. It's definitely leaps and bounds better than the First Edition crap fest. Good grief.

Oh yeah because "accuracy" is always crap right? Honestly I cant see why people hate the First Edition so much. I bought it and other than the backpack and lack of articulation, the figure is awesome. The detailing of the plastic is much much more better than any Masterpiece I bought(And certainly much better than this Leader class figure), the paint apps look much better than the Leader class and honestly even the robot mode proportions look much better. The chroming looks much better than the plain silver and the head sculpt is just pure awesomeness

And yet here you are claiming that the First Edition figure is "Crap fest" and that the Leader class is "Leaps and bounds better". Please go check your eyesight sir or perhaps it's a brain issue? Just go see a doctor. Honestly speaking.

Fans are just haters I guess. Here Hasbro is trying to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible to the actual on-screen Optimus Prime and of course fans still hate them because of the backpack =_=... I guess they just dont realize how hard it is to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible.

[0ptimu5_prim3]

Someone saw this about Galvatron dead?

https://twitter.com/0ptimu5_prim3/status/435941784569401344/photo/1/large

[Autobot032]

Oh yeah because "accuracy" is always crap right? Honestly I cant see why people hate the First Edition so much. I bought it and other than the backpack and lack of articulation, the figure is awesome. The detailing of the plastic is much much more better than any Masterpiece I bought(And certainly much better than this Leader class figure), the paint apps look much better than the Leader class and honestly even the robot mode proportions look much better. The chroming looks much better than the plain silver and the head sculpt is just pure awesomeness

Taking my opinion personally? Alrighty, then. (Not sure why, but... *shrugs*)
I fail to see how the First Edition is so accurate. Neither the main line figure or the First Edition are completely accurate. Both have ridiculous amount of backpack.

And yet here you are claiming that the First Edition figure is "Crap fest" and that the Leader class is "Leaps and bounds better". Please go check your eyesight sir or perhaps it's a brain issue? Just go see a doctor. Honestly speaking.

Getting real personal, now. Again, not sure why. It's certainly not necessary, nor is it welcome here. "How To Win Friends And Influence People" is a real book, find it and read it, learn from it. There's no need to be rude and offensive whilst offering your opinion on a product. Getting personal over an action figure, especially when a post wasn't aimed at you, is for lack of a better word, ridiculous.

As for it being a crap fest, I go by what others have experienced first hand:

- Hollow feeling and very light weight.
- Chrome rubbing off and fading.
- Weapons aren't always painted, and it's pretty much a game of chance to end up with painted ones as many people have come forward to complain about their weapons lacking paint apps. To the point that Amazon has begun reviewing the figure and pulled the regular packaging version from sale as of right now. Only their frustration free packaging version is available. (which makes no sense to me, since it's only the packaging that's changed, not the figure or it's accessories inside.)

I've heard several people, including a respected TF reviewer say it's not worth the money. With complaints that are legit, I've seen a specimen where the chrome rubbed off, and multiple cases of this all happening, why would I find it to be a superior figure? I might as well save $15-20.00 and buy a slightly more intricate version of the character, with less chrome to worry about!

Fans are just haters I guess. Here Hasbro is trying to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible to the actual on-screen Optimus Prime and of course fans still hate them because of the backpack =_=... I guess they just dont realize how hard it is to make a Movieverse figure look as accurate as possible.

It's unfair to assume that all fans are "haters" blanket assumptions like that are offensive and can lead to problems. Please don't use labels when speaking of others, nor should you speak for them. You wouldn't like it if they did it to you, don't do it to them.

[User897]

You hit the proverbial nail right on the head, Autobot032. Thanks for posting that.

[Sabrblade]

Someone saw this about Galvatron dead?

https://twitter.com/0ptimu5_prim3/status/435941784569401344/photo/1/large

The link is dead.

[0ptimu5_prim3]

Here is

[GuyIncognito]

Well, based on one crummy screengrab and a suspended twitter account, it's obvious that Galvatron is dead. It's not like Transformers ever APPEAR to be dead but then get revived or brought back somehow. There's no precedent for that, right?

[Noideaforaname]

Could be that Galvy's dead there.
Could be that Optimus got shot right before he could deal the final blow.
Could be a generic that reuses Galvy's foot (a bunch reuse Blackout's head, for example).
Could be a lot of things.

On the other hand, the ads for DotM did blatantly show Starscream and Shockwave's deaths, so I wouldn't be that surprised if they're doing the same with Galvatron.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

[GuyIncognito]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

Me too. There have been waves in the past that weren't officially canceled, but simply never showed up in stores. Especially later waves at the end of lines, which stores never order because they have no room on the shelves that are filled with unsold figures from the early waves. Sometimes they're not "officially" cancelled, but if they only show up in a few stores and most people can't find them, then it's effectively the same as being cancelled.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. This part is not true. Beast Hunters is not canceled and no other lines have been canceled, either. The Generations Legends are still coming and Beast Hunters are still active in Wal*Mart's computer system.

Please read the news headlines for more information.

I'll believe it when I see them in stores.

Me too. There have been waves in the past that weren't officially canceled, but simply never showed up in stores. Especially later waves at the end of lines, which stores never order because they have no room on the shelves that are filled with unsold figures from the early waves. Sometimes they're not "officially" cancelled, but if they only show up in a few stores and most people can't find them, then it's effectively the same as being cancelled.

For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers, and Beast Hunters seems to be biting the dust when it comes to the Deluxes and Cyberverse Classes. Hasbro is looking into a second run of Swerve and Cosmos, while investigating other venues for Beast Hunters.

That would mean they're not canceled, but merely postponed until deals have been finalised.

[Megatron Wolf]

i do like the AoE packaging but the toys suck, either the figure is good but theres no paint or the paint is good & the figure sucks. I hate yhr movies but ive always found at least one figure that was good, doesnt look like that this time around. Just have to wait & see what the next waves offer. Was there any talk on pricing? I dont see anything on the displays talking about release date or price points. Also have we found out yet who that silver cabover is? My money is on galvatron

[GuyIncognito]

For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers

The numerous Generations Legends warming the pegs at every store in my area seem to suggest otherwise.

If their only concern is that retailers won't order enough, then why not just sell them through HTS.com?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

For all it's worth, Hasbro has said the latest wave of Generations Legends was under-ordered by retailers

The numerous Generations Legends warming the pegs at every store in my area seem to suggest otherwise.

If their only concern is that retailers won't order enough, then why not just sell them through HTS.com?

The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

[GuyIncognito]

The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

Either way, the result is the same. Whether it's because retailers didn't order the early waves (no demand) or because they ordered too much of the early waves (no shelf space), there's often some reason for Hasbro to not release the later waves and for stores not to order them. That's why we shouldn't count on these Gen Legends ever coming out.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

The latest wave meaning Cosmos and Swerve. If the wave before doesn't move, well, no need to order more, right?

Either way, the result is the same. Whether it's because retailers didn't order the early waves (no demand) or because they ordered too much of the early waves (no shelf space), there's often some reason for Hasbro to not release the later waves and for stores not to order them. That's why we shouldn't count on these Gen Legends ever coming out.

At least not for the time being. Maybe at the end of the year we'll see special discounted versions at TJ Maxx and Five Below

[Whitemest]

Ya know.. i gotta say, those grimlock figures, ALL of them from AoE look like ass.. i usually try to buy every incarnation of Ratchet and Grimlock, but i have very very little interest in picking up any class of grimlock for this movie...:-\

[K2vox]

I'm really actually very happy and surprised with how much I am liking the non-simplified generations movie line toys. I was really feeling like I'd be disappointed, but these make me look forward to the new movie so much more now. I just hope that they'll put in the line the toys from the previous movie line that didn't make it out. Leadfoot and Soundwave, I'm looking at you. I know WHY they made the Dinobots those colors, because if they were all just charcoal grey like in the movie, they'd look pretty bland, but I agree with other comments that it makes them look like Beast Hunters predacons. I still love them though. Slag was always my favorite. EXCUSE ME. lol.

[Mindmaster]

...it's obvious that Galvatron is dead.

I'm going to be optimistic and say he's taking a dirt nap.

...Aww, who am I kidding? Galvy is so dead.

[Deathscythetransform]

all I can say is that too simple the toys are, the most boring they are.

I said it once, I'll say it again: transformers are 3 toys in one: an action figure, a vehicle (or object) and a puzzle. the puzzle makes the whole toy entertaining or boring.

Quite frankly, some of the deluxes look good. not excellent, but good.
At least there is a leader grimlock out there that has Some steps to transform him, instead of the one step thingy.

Optimus prime is the biggest lackluster of them all. The truck mode is absolutely gorgeous. the robot mode isn't good. Hell, the G1 themed one looks better than the leader class!

well I'll be very selective with this line... and with all that simplified crap they are pulling on us, goddamn it! we can all kiss the Human Alliance thing goodbye!

[SKYWARPED_128]

we can all kiss the Human Alliance thing goodbye!

Yeah, there were some excellent TF's in that line. I've got Jazz, Barricade and Bee, and the look awesome (Bee to a lesser degree).

[K2vox]

Hey Guys! Anyone that was there that was able to get a better look at that MP Grimlock, can you tell me if the teeth were worn down like for the US release, or if they're like the sharp Japanese ones? Thanks

[skidflap]

"white hot dino rage"

describes slag/slug in a nutshell.

[Cyberpath]

Now that's interesting. I saw it on the site's banner and had to check it out. The truck is a classic. This is just a one-off toy though right? Not something that will appear in the new film?
They should have used his iconic alt mode and iconic face in the movies, to go with his iconic voice..

Not familiar with Size Class, how big or small is a "Leader Class" toy next to a Masterpiece?