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fenrir72 wrote:TFA UM

What? How? It's no harder than a standard deluxe.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:D'ohoho! Will you sucker! Enjoying that Binaltech Grimlock I traded you some years ago I see.

Glad I got rid of that beautiful but oh so frustrating thing.

It was still a great deal. I dont regret the money I spent. I really wanted to experience a Binaltech version and I wanted to experience that mold so it was win win. And he is beautiful and a great example of embodying a character in a different alt mode. I just hate his arms.

Ultra Markus wrote:what about RID Megatron /Galvatron 10 modes and i have had heard some of my friends couldnt figure it out let alone their kids figuring it out

I never found him that hard, even when I first got him back when I was 13. When a toy has so many modes they are all just a few steps away from one another another.

maybe, but without directions its almost too hard to know how to do it

Ultra Markus wrote:maybe, but without directions its almost too hard to know how to do it

I never used instructions, even as a kid. Most of the toys i got were second hand anyway and back then many instructions were written on the box and kids would throw out the boxes. So as an 8 year old I learnt to figure out TFs without instructions. For RID Megatron, the internet was around and I would just look at an image of the modes and figure it out from there. I really don't find him tricky in any way, he whole idea of the toy is to reorient his limbs and tail. The tail becomes the head for one mode, or the legs become the neck for another. Its the same parts being used over an over you are just changing the stance and orientation of the same parts.

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:maybe, but without directions its almost too hard to know how to do it

I never used instructions, even as a kid. Most of the toys i got were second hand anyway and back then many instructions were written on the box and kids would throw out the boxes. So as an 8 year old I learnt to figure out TFs without instructions. For RID Megatron, the internet was around and I would just look at an image of the modes and figure it out from there. I really don't find him tricky in any way, he whole idea of the toy is to reorient his limbs and tail. The tail becomes the head for one mode, or the legs become the neck for another. Its the same parts being used over an over you are just changing the stance and orientation of the same parts.

So your saying if you didn't have internet help you would have had a hard time figuring it out much like everthing else in the list

Completely agree with Binaltech Grimlock. I've never transformed him back to car mode and simply removed his arms and popped them in the box. The whole Binaltech line was overly complicated, which is one of the reasons I'm seeking my ones.

I think other mentions should be:

- Beast Wars Neo toys (especially Big Convoy)

- Most third party Transformers.

- Movie Audi R8 robots.

Ultra Markus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:maybe, but without directions its almost too hard to know how to do it

I never used instructions, even as a kid. Most of the toys i got were second hand anyway and back then many instructions were written on the box and kids would throw out the boxes. So as an 8 year old I learnt to figure out TFs without instructions. For RID Megatron, the internet was around and I would just look at an image of the modes and figure it out from there. I really don't find him tricky in any way, he whole idea of the toy is to reorient his limbs and tail. The tail becomes the head for one mode, or the legs become the neck for another. Its the same parts being used over an over you are just changing the stance and orientation of the same parts.

So your saying if you didn't have internet help you would have had a hard time figuring it out much like everthing else in the list

Thats not what I said. I said all I needed was an image of each mode and I could figure out how to get there without the instructions and without any problems. Much unlike the toys on this list. If all you show someone is a pic of what ROTF Mixmaster looks like in robot mode and alt mode, the transformation will still be very challenging.

Nice list, though I'd like to add Dark of the moon sideswipe to that list. I don't know if it was just mine, but nothing would work right with that toy

Totally agree with your list.
Others that come to mind for me would be Sentinel Prime Leader Class (as mentioned by someone else) and MP-09 Masterpiece Rodimus.

I also want to nominate Generations WFC Optimus prime.

Another great list, William. And unlike last week, I've played with all these toys. So i can agree with no real reservations.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Another great list, William. And unlike last week, I've played with all these toys. So i can agree with no real reservations.

Thanks man!

The autobot brothers are all pretty complex and tricky, but Sideburn makes the other two look like jumpstarters in comparison. Well, I exaggerate, but not that much.