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[Sabrblade]

I just prefer when it's done well, like Beast Wars. Or Animated. Or...
... actually that's about it.

But Animated was the opposite case most of the time, with "cartoon models first, toys second". The only ones who did the old-school "toys first, cartoon models second" were Jetfire & Jetstorm (even though these two did have some preliminary Transformers: Hero designs and TFA bible designs, their finalized looks got made into toy form first) and Oil Slick.

[Kurona]

I just prefer when it's done well, like Beast Wars. Or Animated. Or...
... actually that's about it.

But Animated was the opposite case most of the time, with "cartoon models first, toys second". The only ones who did the old-school "toys first, cartoon models second" were Jetfire & Jetstorm (even though these two did have some preliminary Transformers: Hero designs and TFA bible designs, their finalized looks got made into toy form first) and Oil Slick.

Just speaking purely in terms of to-sell-toys.

[PrymeStriker]

I just prefer when it's done well, like Beast Wars. Or Animated. Or...
... actually that's about it.

But Animated was the opposite case most of the time, with "cartoon models first, toys second". The only ones who did the old-school "toys first, cartoon models second" were Jetfire & Jetstorm (even though these two did have some preliminary Transformers: Hero designs and TFA bible designs, their finalized looks got made into toy form first) and Oil Slick.

Just speaking purely in terms of to-sell-toys.

Even still, I don't think it works out very well in general. I found all of Beast Wars' stupid Transmetal crap distracting as hell, especially by the third season (Cheetor, Blackarachnia, and Primal looked ridiculous). However, on the plus side, the animaton improved as a result of it.

[william-james88]

I just prefer when it's done well, like Beast Wars. Or Animated. Or...
... actually that's about it.

But Animated was the opposite case most of the time, with "cartoon models first, toys second". The only ones who did the old-school "toys first, cartoon models second" were Jetfire & Jetstorm (even though these two did have some preliminary Transformers: Hero designs and TFA bible designs, their finalized looks got made into toy form first) and Oil Slick.

Just speaking purely in terms of to-sell-toys.

Even still, I don't think it works out very well in general. I found all of Beast Wars' stupid Transmetal crap distracting as hell, especially by the third season (Cheetor, Blackarachnia, and Primal looked ridiculous). However, on the plus side, the animaton improved as a result of it.

I will admit I really hated that, but it only felt that way because the beast wars season was shortened. With these 6 RID episodes, there was a lot of time spent on what is simply a handful of toys, which were intriduced as a team, it felt more manageable. Like the whole 6 episodes dedicated to new toys rather than one toy being intriduced at a time and making things feel redundant.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I thought it was a pretty good episode. Wonder if those old friends of Prime happen to be a certain group of Autobots that survived Prime and have yet to make an appearance...

Two guesses on that. Either some of the members of Team Prime, or... the reformed Megatron.

Possible... his voice actor was confirmed to be doing some voices

Though, wouldn't it be outrageous (in a good way) if the old friends that Bee knew turned out to be Rescue Force Sigma-17?

Would be interesting, but I'd still prefer the old Team Prime

[Kurona]

I'm just wondering where the heck Windblade, Ratchet and Undertone are.

[PrymeStriker]

I'm just wondering where the heck Windblade, Ratchet and Undertone are.

Undertone is beginning his new career as a gynecologist.

...for Ratchet.

[Sabrblade]

I'm just wondering where the heck Windblade, Ratchet and Undertone are.

They're probably with the old friends Optimus mentioned. Since they left Earth with Prime, but Prime said that he never made it to Cybertron, Optimus probably left Windblade-tachi with the old friends to go back to Earth by himself for this mini-series, and now he's probably going back to where he came from to reunited with those three.

[Kurona]

Windblade... tachi...?

[Sabrblade]

Windblade... tachi...?

"-tachi" is a Japanese suffix used to refer to a collective group featuring a individual whose name gets singled out to refer to the group as a whole. In this case, I could have said "Windblade and co.", "Windblade and the others", "Windblade's group", etc.

And with Windblade's inherently Japanese design, I was also making a half-joke.

[PrymeStriker]

If they're going the route in-that Optimus gets a "new" team of sorts, consisting of Windblade, Ratchet, and these "old friends", that'd be really cool.

[Kurona]

Though y'know, the new possible team members would likely be Stormshot, Blastwave, Skysledge and/or Stormhammer, given their being new toys.

[PrymeStriker]

Though y'know, the new possible team members would likely be Stormshot, Blastwave, Skysledge and/or Stormhammer, given their being new toys.

I don't mind seeing Stormshot in the show. He's got a rather neat design. Blastwave and the rest can go screw off, though.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Though y'know, the new possible team members would likely be Stormshot, Blastwave, Skysledge and/or Stormhammer, given their being new toys.

I don't mind seeing Stormshot in the show. He's got a rather neat design. Blastwave and the rest can go screw off, though.

I kinda agree here. I really don't want these old friends to be new characters. I'd like them to be some old guys that we do know

[Kurona]

So would I... I'm just saying that to-sell-toys is heavily in effect for this show, and we haven't seen any new toys for Bulkhead or Smokescreen or Arcee recently.
... or hey, maybe Magnus really is gonna be a white prime.

[Sabrblade]

Quick question. Did "History Lessons" air on the U.S. Cartoon Network this past Saturday, October 22?

[Flashwave]

Windblade... tachi...?

"-tachi" is a Japanese suffix used to refer to a collective group featuring a individual whose name gets singled out to refer to the group as a whole. In this case, I could have said "Windblade and co.", "Windblade and the others", "Windblade's group", etc.

And with Windblade's inherently Japanese design, I was also making a half-joke.

Interesting, like the Latin et al

[Sabrblade]

Windblade... tachi...?

"-tachi" is a Japanese suffix used to refer to a collective group featuring a individual whose name gets singled out to refer to the group as a whole. In this case, I could have said "Windblade and co.", "Windblade and the others", "Windblade's group", etc.

And with Windblade's inherently Japanese design, I was also making a half-joke.

Interesting, like the Latin et al

Essentially, yes.

[william-james88]

Windblade... tachi...?

"-tachi" is a Japanese suffix used to refer to a collective group featuring a individual whose name gets singled out to refer to the group as a whole. In this case, I could have said "Windblade and co.", "Windblade and the others", "Windblade's group", etc.

And with Windblade's inherently Japanese design, I was also making a half-joke.

Interesting, like the Latin et al

Good God, that reminds me of my thesis which took 2 years to write. All those citations

[o.supreme]

Quick question. Did "History Lessons" air on the U.S. Cartoon Network this past Saturday, October 22?

Although I cannot personally confirm having seen it on CN, most reputable TV sites used for cataloguing episodes seem to indicate that it aired this past Saturday, also Amazon.com has the episode added to their list of digital episodes for purchase (says made available 10/21 however...possibly a typo?)

[Sabrblade]

Quick question. Did "History Lessons" air on the U.S. Cartoon Network this past Saturday, October 22?

Although I cannot personally confirm having seen it on CN, most reputable TV sites used for cataloguing episodes seem to indicate that it aired this past Saturday, also Amazon.com has the episode added to their list of digital episodes for purchase (says made available 10/21 however...possibly a typo?)

I got an answer elsewhere. It did air.

[Kurona]

Do we know when the next episode is?

[Sabrblade]

Do we know when the next episode is?

You mean the next one for U.S. air, or the start of season 3?

If the former, this Saturday. If the latter, expect season 3 to come sometime next year most likely.

[WreckerJack]

Quick question. Did "History Lessons" air on the U.S. Cartoon Network this past Saturday, October 22?

I don't know for sure, I was able to watch it using OnDemand yesterday though. Decent episode, I think that RID is starting to grow on me more.

[Sabrblade]

Quick question. Did "History Lessons" air on the U.S. Cartoon Network this past Saturday, October 22?

I don't know for sure, I was able to watch it using OnDemand yesterday though. Decent episode, I think that RID is starting to grow on me more.

I got an answer elsewhere. It did air.