griftimus prime wrote:big waste of money and a totally unnecessary mold. looks so much like others that came before it. and with so few improvements its a joke of a masterpiece figure. now we can look forward to 3 or 4 more repaints of it.
Huh? No ones compl-fenrir72 wrote:And let the complaining begin
Nevermind.griftimus prime wrote:big waste of money and a totally unnecessary mold. looks so much like others that came before it. and with so few improvements its a joke of a masterpiece figure. now we can look forward to 3 or 4 more repaints of it.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
That, or they just flat out don't like Beast Wars (which is nuts in and of itself, but that's another convo).-Kanrabat- wrote:The complainers must be smoking some good stuff because he look PERFECT in every ways.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:That, or they just flat out don't like Beast Wars (which is nuts in and of itself, but that's another convo).-Kanrabat- wrote:The complainers must be smoking some good stuff because he look PERFECT in every ways.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
RevTibe wrote:We're used to G1 Masterpiece perfection, but the problem is those are turning a static blocky altmode into a blocky robot. The Beast Wars designs are fundamentally different.
The biggest, biggest difference is that there are no hidden sides of a Beast Mode. A car or truckformer can stuff loads of junk on its underside, but what can an apeformer do?
That and panel lines + joints are always going to look awkward on a beastmode (well, maybe it can be circumvented on those w/ plated bodies, but an Ape ain't one of those).
Optimus Primal has the same amount of care and engineering in his design as every other Masterpiece; it's just that he's a tougher subject to portray.
Caelus wrote:To me it doesn't look like a masterpiece, so much as a logical progression given improvements in toy design - like thrilling 30 Rhinox and Rattrap.
That's not a complaint, mind you - it's just the Beast Wars toys were much better than G1 toys and the animation models closer to the show, so while this is perfect, or close to it, it doesn't seem like the feat of engineering some of the masterpiece figures do.
It seems like a really great voyager class figure, like Thrilling 30 Springer; there's a lot of care and creativity evident in its design, but the level of complexity that was necessary to achieve perfection, and thus the manufacturing cost to produce it, don't seem like they would warrant the normal masterpiece price tag.
I would have been totally fine with them sacrificing the LEDs if it dropped the price.
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