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[Sowndwave76]

BBTS must have gotten their early small shipment of UW Computron. Mine came....

That's awesome, man.
And in the grand scheme, waiting one more month, which really is only a few more weeks now, isn't a huge deal.

[fenrir72]

Computron himself is excellent. There's a bit of of play before the ratchet in Lightspeed's combiner port, meaning Computron has a bit of knee wobble on one side, but he still holds fine. Other than that, they really went above and beyond with all the remoulding. Computron may be my favourite. And that's from someone who doesn't really care about the technobots as characters.

My hasbro Wheeljack has the same issue.

Same here. The ratchet on the connector wobbles in my Computicon too. Maybe its a mold wide issue?

[Agamemnon]

Computron himself is excellent. There's a bit of of play before the ratchet in Lightspeed's combiner port, meaning Computron has a bit of knee wobble on one side, but he still holds fine. Other than that, they really went above and beyond with all the remoulding. Computron may be my favourite. And that's from someone who doesn't really care about the technobots as characters.

My hasbro Wheeljack has the same issue.

Same here. The ratchet on the connector wobbles in my Computicon too. Maybe its a mold wide issue?

My Sunstreaker is tight, though my Wheeljack is also loose...

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Computron himself is excellent. There's a bit of of play before the ratchet in Lightspeed's combiner port, meaning Computron has a bit of knee wobble on one side, but he still holds fine. Other than that, they really went above and beyond with all the remoulding. Computron may be my favourite. And that's from someone who doesn't really care about the technobots as characters.

My hasbro Wheeljack has the same issue.

Same here. The ratchet on the connector wobbles in my Computicon too. Maybe its a mold wide issue?

My Sunstreaker is tight, though my Wheeljack is also loose...

Maybe it's a problem introduced with the Wheeljack shell of the Breakdown mold. If Counterpunch will have the same problem, it's definite possibility.

[Va'al]

Also updated on the TakaraTomyMall website is the listing for Unite Warriors UW-EX Megatronia, the Victorion repaint with a bizarre backstory and colour schemes, with slightly larger images and tweaked decos since the first time we saw the set. New addition is a sample look at the probably box art, all mirrored below for your viewing convenience - check it out!

[King Kuuga]

Could we please stop misusing the word "repaint"? It's only a repaint if the injected plastics are all the same but the paint map is different (this is extraordinarily rare). This is a redeco.

[Va'al]

Could we please stop misusing the word "repaint"? It's only a repaint if the injected plastics are all the same but the paint map is different (this is extraordinarily rare). This is a redeco.

That is an incredibly specific detail, which I did not know about.

[Va'al]

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... ece/36317/

[King Kuuga]

It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint

NOW YOU KNOW!

[Va'al]

It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint

NOW YOU KNOW!

I do!

But do I care..?

[Sabrblade]

It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint

NOW YOU KNOW!

I do!

But do I care..?

G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOE!!!

[fenrir72]

It's one of my pet peeves in this fandom. A toy's deco refers to its entire coloration, the combination of plastic colors and paint applications. So if you change both of those, it's a redeco.
Unfortunately the misapplied term repaint gets substituted much more often and is the prevailing term among fans.
TO RECAP:
changed plastic colors + new paint apps=redeco
same plastic colors + new paint apps=repaint

NOW YOU KNOW!

And knowing is half the battle.............

[firefox91]

I have to say, these new colors are far better than the ugliness that is Victorion. I like how each bot has a unique stand out color. It reminds me of Voltron. But I still can't get over the head. It's really tall and skinny, it just looks disproportionate. Other than that, I really like it.

Regarding redeco vs repaint. I see the differences that are being stated but in the end I just don't think it is truly that important. Existing tooling, different colors. It's commonplace in toy collecting that is referred to as repaint. No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.

[william-james88]

No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.

Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad

[jgilkinson]

No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.

Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad

Kind of like how "I'm sorry" and "My Bad" mean about the same thing... unless you're at a funeral

[Emerje]

In some cases saying "repaint" is actually more accurate than saying "redeco". When coming up with a new design for an existing mold they'll often take the former finished figure and repaint it by hand in new colors to test the design.

Takara Tomy does this on a regular basis, taking a pre-existing Hasbro retail figure and painting over it in their new colors, making calling them repaints a little more valid.

Emerje

[Terrsolpix]

I just got my Computron today and I'm lovin it TM. Glad I got to insatead of the Hasbro release. I'm having wheeljack combiner peg issues but it is much less severe than on my hasbro wheeljack which skips a whole click because looseness. Modular weapons is absolutely brilliant, this better be a reoccurring trend. It's my first unite warriors set and it might have pushed me over the edge of Kittyking and/or Voltorion

[fenrir72]

I just got my Computron today and I'm lovin it TM. Glad I got to insatead of the Hasbro release. I'm having wheeljack combiner peg issues but it is much less severe than on my hasbro wheeljack which skips a whole click because looseness. Modular weapons is absolutely brilliant, this better be a reoccurring trend. It's my first unite warriors set and it might have pushed me over the edge of Kittyking and/or Voltorion

Another issue with Lightspeed's ratchet. Must be what JZGR said.

[King Kuuga]

No, it's not dictionary level correct. But a lot in the English language where liberties are taken, but the point is still understood.

Yeah, like a lot of Americans use "Mad" to mean "Angry". Drives me mad

If you think i'm not going to use mad to mean mad, you're mad. And if it makes you mad that I say mad to mean mad but not to mean mad, then you're mad.

In some cases saying "repaint" is actually more accurate than saying "redeco". When coming up with a new design for an existing mold they'll often take the former finished figure and repaint it by hand in new colors to test the design.

Takara Tomy does this on a regular basis, taking a pre-existing Hasbro retail figure and painting over it in their new colors, making calling them repaints a little more valid.

Emerje

It is accurate in that specific context but not as a catch-all term.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems.

Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.

It's a bit insulting, really...

[Bounti76]

Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems.

Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.

It's a bit insulting, really...

Excuse me.....male privilege coming through....

For real though, may I ask why you find it insulting? As I look at it, it's simply saying that they're Woman/Female Decepticons, and that they combine. It's like in the G1 cartoon, when the Female Autobots appear. Chromia, Moonracer, Lancer, Greenlight, Firestar, Elita One.....their team name is the Female Autobots (at least according to TFWiki).

Anyway, to me, the only reason that there would be a team called Female Decepticons, is that it's not only comparatively rare to have female characters in fiction, but a team of them? Almost unheard of. So they're not just another Decepticon team. The only thing that makes them different than any other combiner team is the fact that they're female, so that fact is pointed to in the team name,

[Wreckgar]

Repaint, Redeco, Remold, Retool, let's call the whole thing off. As long as the general intention of meaning is understood, there shouldn't be any problems.

Back to Megatronia, I find her title on the box a bit... surprising: "Woman Decepticon Warrior Combiner". What's more interesting is the Japanese title: ウーマンデストロン合体女兵士 (Ūmandesutoron gattai on'na heishi) or "Woman Destron Combined Woman Soldier". In other words, "Woman Decepticon/Destron" is the name of this particular sub-group.

It's a bit insulting, really...

Excuse me.....male privilege coming through....

For real though, may I ask why you find it insulting? As I look at it, it's simply saying that they're Woman/Female Decepticons, and that they combine. It's like in the G1 cartoon, when the Female Autobots appear. Chromia, Moonracer, Lancer, Greenlight, Firestar, Elita One.....their team name is the Female Autobots (at least according to TFWiki).

Anyway, to me, the only reason that there would be a team called Female Decepticons, is that it's not only comparatively rare to have female characters in fiction, but a team of them? Almost unheard of. So they're not just another Decepticon team. The only thing that makes them different than any other combiner team is the fact that they're female, so that fact is pointed to in the team name,

I think you may have just said it yourself. The Combaticons are all specialists in war. The Stunticons are all great drivers. The Constructicons are a team of builders and architects. This team name implies their gender is more noteworthy than any skills or abilities they may have.

Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...

[Sjeng]

I think you may have just said it yourself. The Combaticons are all specialists in war. The Stunticons are all great drivers. The Constructicons are a team of builders and architects. This team name implies their gender is more noteworthy than any skills or abilities they may have.

It's simple: unlike men, females can multitask. So they don't need a single specialization, they're female warriors, good at anything.

[Kurona]

Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...

Save yourself before it's too late

[Wreckgar]

Oh dear, I've just got involved in a discussion on feminism on the internet...

Save yourself before it's too late

It may already be too late - there's no hiding emoji