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[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm interested to see what they do with the Victorion team. Gonna have to wait a while I guess

[o.supreme]

End of October, if all stays constant, if we get an official reveal, *if* Sky Reign has enough Preorders?

[william-james88]

End of October, if all stays constant, if we get an official reveal, *if* Sky Reign has enough Preorders?

Preorders arent relevant for Skyreign though, its more for Bruticus and Computron. Most people will be getting Skylynx distributed outside of japan, so not handled by Takara.

Unless Hasbo Asia gives all its info to Takara. I am really curious about their relationship.

[o.supreme]

Sorry, like I said I was tired . But I knew some preorders had some relevancy, and I am extremely interested in the relationship as well. In fact I have often been interested in the relationship between Hasbro USA & TT. Basically the same toys (I assume manufactured in some of the same locations?) but yet so different. I envision a world where the whole world gets one release of a specific toy, but I guess that's not practical. Everything from food, to media, to toys, to laundry soap is regionalized. Often it creates some neat results, but sometimes it is a pain, and causes unnecessary divisions.

[william-james88]

Sorry, like I said I was tired . But I knew some preorders had some relevancy, and I am extremely interested in the relationship as well. In fact I have often been interested in the relationship between Hasbro USA & TT. Basically the same toys (I assume manufactured in some of the same locations?) but yet so different. I envision a world where the whole world gets one release of a specific toy, but I guess that's not practical. Everything from food, to media, to toys, to laundry soap is regionalized. Often it creates some neat results, but sometimes it is a pain, and causes unnecessary divisions.

You had valid points and I may be wrong. I just find that an exclusive and limited item in japan wouldnt be as weary about preorders due to its lower stock and availability at only one place.

And yes, they are made at the same factories

[Evil Eye]

So we more or less know who the torso is going to be (Esmeral, probably) but as for the limbs...hmm. Airachnid from a copter would be cool. Someone on 4chan suggested the other copter might be a "Lady Deathcobra" (Murderboa? Slaymamba?) which would be awesome. As for the other two, someone suggested Lyzack, and I reckon Scylla could be on the cards. Also, how about Mayumi, the proposed but ultimately scrapped female Destron whatevermaster from Masterforce?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

What if Takara makes the regular Victorion girls decepticons? or something along those lines and these are still Pyra Magna and bunch

[ZeroWolf]

Now that is interesting Takara, but I'm now curious about something, the fact that they're are using Esmeral does that mean they have thought about hasbro liokaiser?

[o.supreme]

And yes, they are made at the same factories

Of course now I am going to expose my laziness. because I am at work, and cant physically check my toys, I always assumed all Hasbro & TT Transformers were manufactured someplace in Hong Kong? But I very specifically remember my UW-EX Grand Scourge saying "Made in Vietnam" which I thought was odd, which is probably why I remembered it.

Unless "Made in Vietnam" is just a distribution point? Like how Japan is for TT & Pawtucket RI is for U.S. Hasbro toys?

[o.supreme]

Now that is interesting Takara, but I'm now curious about something, the fact that they're are using Esmeral does that mean they have thought about hasbro liokaiser?

Nothing is a fact at this point, just educated guesses

[Kurona]

Why is everyone talking with such certainty as if it is Esmeral? I mean, maybe it is, it's certainly not off the cards; but there's nothing to say it definitely is. She's the 'wife of the emperor of destruction'. Alright, that has been attributed to Esmeral. Why can't it be attributed to just about anyone else? The mold just does not match up to Esmeral at all and there's just nothing to say it's definitely this one character that was in one scene in one obscure version of one obscure Transformers anime, said scene not even taking place at all in the Cartoon continuity which, given Grand Galvatron's comic, seems to be the continuity it's following.
It's not impossible that it's Esmeral but I don't see why people are talking about it with such certainty.

[Hellscream9999]

And yes, they are made at the same factories

Of course now I am going to expose my laziness. because I am at work, and cant physically check my toys, I always assumed all Hasbro & TT Transformers were manufactured someplace in Hong Kong? But I very specifically remember my UW-EX Grand Scourge saying "Made in Vietnam" which I thought was odd, which is probably why I remembered it.

Unless "Made in Vietnam" is just a distribution point? Like how Japan is for TT & Pawtucket RI is for U.S. Hasbro toys?

Nope, the cw versions are made in vietnam - in the same factories probably, just using different plastics/colors.

Now that is interesting Takara, but I'm now curious about something, the fact that they're are using Esmeral does that mean they have thought about hasbro liokaiser?

Nothing is a fact at this point, just educated guesses

Well, they were very specific about the wording, so, I'd say it's likely...

Why is everyone talking with such certainty as if it is Esmeral? I mean, maybe it is, it's certainly not off the cards; but there's nothing to say it definitely is. She's the 'wife of the emperor of destruction'. Alright, that has been attributed to Esmeral. Why can't it be attributed to just about anyone else? The mold just does not match up to Esmeral at all and there's just nothing to say it's definitely this one character that was in one scene in one obscure version of one obscure Transformers anime, said scene not even taking place at all in the Cartoon continuity which, given Grand Galvatron's comic, seems to be the continuity it's following.
It's not impossible that it's Esmeral but I don't see why people are talking about it with such certainty.

Well, unless someone else is labelled as 'The Emperor of Destruction' and took a wife, I'd say it's a solid hint; but speaking of it as a definite is certainly not proper; but, I feel say working with that as is

[Evil Eye]

Why is everyone talking with such certainty as if it is Esmeral? I mean, maybe it is, it's certainly not off the cards; but there's nothing to say it definitely is. She's the 'wife of the emperor of destruction'. Alright, that has been attributed to Esmeral. Why can't it be attributed to just about anyone else? The mold just does not match up to Esmeral at all and there's just nothing to say it's definitely this one character that was in one scene in one obscure version of one obscure Transformers anime, said scene not even taking place at all in the Cartoon continuity which, given Grand Galvatron's comic, seems to be the continuity it's following.
It's not impossible that it's Esmeral but I don't see why people are talking about it with such certainty.

Whilst I can't speak for the manga, the Victory anime is one of the most beloved incarnations of Transformers in Japan. Far from obscure, that's for certain. Also Takara loves obscure and batsh*t insane references to Transformers canon.

[Kurona]

And yes, they are made at the same factories

Of course now I am going to expose my laziness. because I am at work, and cant physically check my toys, I always assumed all Hasbro & TT Transformers were manufactured someplace in Hong Kong? But I very specifically remember my UW-EX Grand Scourge saying "Made in Vietnam" which I thought was odd, which is probably why I remembered it.

Unless "Made in Vietnam" is just a distribution point? Like how Japan is for TT & Pawtucket RI is for U.S. Hasbro toys?

Nope, the cw versions are made in vietnam - in the same factories probably, just using different plastics/colors.

Now that is interesting Takara, but I'm now curious about something, the fact that they're are using Esmeral does that mean they have thought about hasbro liokaiser?

Nothing is a fact at this point, just educated guesses

Well, they were very specific about the wording, so, I'd say it's likely...

Why is everyone talking with such certainty as if it is Esmeral? I mean, maybe it is, it's certainly not off the cards; but there's nothing to say it definitely is. She's the 'wife of the emperor of destruction'. Alright, that has been attributed to Esmeral. Why can't it be attributed to just about anyone else? The mold just does not match up to Esmeral at all and there's just nothing to say it's definitely this one character that was in one scene in one obscure version of one obscure Transformers anime, said scene not even taking place at all in the Cartoon continuity which, given Grand Galvatron's comic, seems to be the continuity it's following.
It's not impossible that it's Esmeral but I don't see why people are talking about it with such certainty.

Well, unless someone else is labelled as 'The Emperor of Destruction' and took a wife, I'd say it's a solid hint; but speaking of it as a definite is certainly not proper; but, I feel say working with that as is

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

[Hellscream9999]

Also Takara loves obscure and batsh*t insane references to Transformers canon.

Yeah, it's actually really refreshing to be able to just sit back and not take them too seriously...

[ZeroWolf]

I know I shouldn't of took it as a fact but it was just the way the words formed in my head. Plus this is Takara, it would be a mighty big precedent for them to make a new characters when there is already existing characters to use.

[SureShot18]

Another Grand Galvatron type of combiner would be cool but I think I'd much prefer a "Nemesis Victorion and the Torchbearers" deal.

[Hellscream9999]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

[o.supreme]

Just trying to be the voice of reason here. All the guesses I've seen early on, based on my own research seem to be pretty solid (never knew Deathsaurus had a wife, even though I've watched the anime several times, I've never read the manga...ya learn something new every day), do any other Decepticon leaders have established wives? So were I a betting man...I would definitely not bet against the guesses I've read here...still all that being said, until we get it from an official source, I just like to keep it in the realm of possibility, and not use words like "fact" and "since we know"...

[william-james88]

And yes, they are made at the same factories

Of course now I am going to expose my laziness. because I am at work, and cant physically check my toys, I always assumed all Hasbro & TT Transformers were manufactured someplace in Hong Kong? But I very specifically remember my UW-EX Grand Scourge saying "Made in Vietnam" which I thought was odd, which is probably why I remembered it.

Unless "Made in Vietnam" is just a distribution point? Like how Japan is for TT & Pawtucket RI is for U.S. Hasbro toys?

Easy, TF toys were made in china until 2015, where the started manufacturing them all in vietnam instead. But wherever Hasbro toys were made the takara couterparts were made in the same factory. They will be moving to india in the next 5 years.

[Kurona]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

I feel it could be someone new or even a pre-existing female Decepticon who has been given this title. IDK, it just seems... weird that this could be Esmeral. It's mostly the whole body thing; given what little we know about her, Pyra Magna's body structure is the exact opposite of Esmeral.
And I mean okay, you can probably say "the mold doesn't seem that right" for a lot of characters. I don't think there were a lot of people who bought Combiner Wars Offroad, looked at him, and thought "You know what? He'll eventually make a decent Ratchet". But at least in that case, those two do share a similar size, a similar body structure, and turn into at least somewhat similar alt-modes.
Esmeral is a tiny, dainty, possible deluxe-sized character who appears to turn into what is presumably the female of whatever the hell species Deathsaurus turns into. Pyra Magna is a tall, bulky, imposing, voyager-sized badass who turns into a Fire Truck. There's... there's some things that are really hard to reconcile between that mold and Esmeral. In terms of unfitting molds for Deathsaurus' Waifu that's right up there with Transmetal Rattrap and Generations Roadbuster.

[Hellscream9999]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

I feel it could be someone new or even a pre-existing female Decepticon who has been given this title. IDK, it just seems... weird that this could be Esmeral. It's mostly the whole body thing; given what little we know about her, Pyra Magna's body structure is the exact opposite of Esmeral.
And I mean okay, you can probably say "the mold doesn't seem that right" for a lot of characters. I don't think there were a lot of people who bought Combiner Wars Offroad, looked at him, and thought "You know what? He'll eventually make a decent Ratchet". But at least in that case, those two do share a similar size, a similar body structure, and turn into at least somewhat similar alt-modes.
Esmeral is a tiny, dainty, possible deluxe-sized character who appears to turn into what is presumably the female of whatever the hell species Deathsaurus turns into. Pyra Magna is a tall, bulky, imposing, voyager-sized badass who turns into a Fire Truck. There's... there's some things that are really hard to reconcile between that mold and Esmeral.

Yeah, I get that, but I thought the faces actually matched up pretty well when I first saw them, plus this would be her first figure - probably her only one at that, so, it would be a nice figure to get...

[Kurona]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

I feel it could be someone new or even a pre-existing female Decepticon who has been given this title. IDK, it just seems... weird that this could be Esmeral. It's mostly the whole body thing; given what little we know about her, Pyra Magna's body structure is the exact opposite of Esmeral.
And I mean okay, you can probably say "the mold doesn't seem that right" for a lot of characters. I don't think there were a lot of people who bought Combiner Wars Offroad, looked at him, and thought "You know what? He'll eventually make a decent Ratchet". But at least in that case, those two do share a similar size, a similar body structure, and turn into at least somewhat similar alt-modes.
Esmeral is a tiny, dainty, possible deluxe-sized character who appears to turn into what is presumably the female of whatever the hell species Deathsaurus turns into. Pyra Magna is a tall, bulky, imposing, voyager-sized badass who turns into a Fire Truck. There's... there's some things that are really hard to reconcile between that mold and Esmeral.

Yeah, I get that, but I thought the faces actually matched up pretty well when I first saw them, plus this would be her first figure - probably her only one at that, so, it would be a nice figure to get...

I guess, but if that is true, then it's not the best representation of her...
...
Who am I kidding, she had no character to begin with. Giving her this body frame is a great restart point.

[Hellscream9999]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

I feel it could be someone new or even a pre-existing female Decepticon who has been given this title. IDK, it just seems... weird that this could be Esmeral. It's mostly the whole body thing; given what little we know about her, Pyra Magna's body structure is the exact opposite of Esmeral.
And I mean okay, you can probably say "the mold doesn't seem that right" for a lot of characters. I don't think there were a lot of people who bought Combiner Wars Offroad, looked at him, and thought "You know what? He'll eventually make a decent Ratchet". But at least in that case, those two do share a similar size, a similar body structure, and turn into at least somewhat similar alt-modes.
Esmeral is a tiny, dainty, possible deluxe-sized character who appears to turn into what is presumably the female of whatever the hell species Deathsaurus turns into. Pyra Magna is a tall, bulky, imposing, voyager-sized badass who turns into a Fire Truck. There's... there's some things that are really hard to reconcile between that mold and Esmeral.

Yeah, I get that, but I thought the faces actually matched up pretty well when I first saw them, plus this would be her first figure - probably her only one at that, so, it would be a nice figure to get...

I guess, but if that is true, then it's not the best representation of her...
...
Who am I kidding, she had no character to begin with. Giving her this body frame is a great restart point.

Yup, it's servicable; but something I thought of was, their galvatronus refers to himself when not combined doesn't he? maybe the fembots were referring to their combined mode too... just a thought

[Kurona]

'Emperor of Destruction' is attributed to, like... every Decepticon leader now, especially these days. And if you want to establish a female Decepticon as being in a high position and as being very powerful, saying they're married to Megatron, Galvatron, Scorponok etc. is not the worst start.

But that's just it... no other fembot has been established as a 'wife' to an 'emperor'... so that seems extremely specific to me - unless they're making this someone new and tacking that on, but somehow, I don't think they are.

I feel it could be someone new or even a pre-existing female Decepticon who has been given this title. IDK, it just seems... weird that this could be Esmeral. It's mostly the whole body thing; given what little we know about her, Pyra Magna's body structure is the exact opposite of Esmeral.
And I mean okay, you can probably say "the mold doesn't seem that right" for a lot of characters. I don't think there were a lot of people who bought Combiner Wars Offroad, looked at him, and thought "You know what? He'll eventually make a decent Ratchet". But at least in that case, those two do share a similar size, a similar body structure, and turn into at least somewhat similar alt-modes.
Esmeral is a tiny, dainty, possible deluxe-sized character who appears to turn into what is presumably the female of whatever the hell species Deathsaurus turns into. Pyra Magna is a tall, bulky, imposing, voyager-sized badass who turns into a Fire Truck. There's... there's some things that are really hard to reconcile between that mold and Esmeral.

Yeah, I get that, but I thought the faces actually matched up pretty well when I first saw them, plus this would be her first figure - probably her only one at that, so, it would be a nice figure to get...

I guess, but if that is true, then it's not the best representation of her...
...
Who am I kidding, she had no character to begin with. Giving her this body frame is a great restart point.

Yup, it's servicable; but something I thought of was, their galvatronus refers to himself when not combined doesn't he? maybe the fembots were referring to their combined mode too... just a thought

Aaaah yeah, there's a point.
I mean, Victorion still doesn't exactly resemble Esmeral in any way... but it's still a point. I am liking the Galvatronus/Thunder Mayhem approach to combiners. Not as an overall thing that should always be done, but as a nice, unique standout thing that brings something new to the idea of combiners.