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[Deadput]

cor blimey! your right guvnor!

well....you should've been able to buy those separate...... grrr(shakes fist at Takara).

They know you guys want it and are going to make you pay unbelievable prices for it Takara is Swindle confirmed.




Not literally the case but it might as well be.

[william-james88]

cor blimey! your right guvnor!

well....you should've been able to buy those separate...... grrr(shakes fist at Takara).

They know you guys want it and are going to make you pay unbelievable prices for it Takara is Swindle confirmed.
Not literally the case but it might as well be.

What are you talking about? Takara showed all along that they would be giving us a shuttle blastoff and we knew it would be anounced after the Hasbro release like every single release last year. So anyone who bought Hasbro pre-emptively knew what they were doing. There is absolutely no surprise from this. Takara is charging 96$ US for this release, thats the same Hasbro is charging for their complete combiner. I really do not understand your point of view in the least and it seems formed up of misinformation. If you have any questions or dont understand these details correctly, you are in the right place to ask

[fenrir72]

Just transformed Devastar afteralmost 14 days of staring at the individual 'cons. Simply awesome. But the way the chest wing armor attaches to the treads of Bonecrusher and Scavenger.......future breakage.......too much stress.

[Evil Eye]

This may be sacrilege but if/when I get UW Bruticus I'm definitely putting Blast Off as a leg. He looks kinda awkward as an arm.

Also I really, REALLY hope Takara retools Brawl to give him a rotating turret- mainly because I'm planning on using him as an arm and I want a good swivelling shoulder cannon.

[ZeroWolf]

cor blimey! your right guvnor!

well....you should've been able to buy those separate...... grrr(shakes fist at Takara).

They know you guys want it and are going to make you pay unbelievable prices for it Takara is Swindle confirmed.
Not literally the case but it might as well be.

What are you talking about? Takara showed all along that they would be giving us a shuttle blastoff and we knew it would be anounced after the Hasbro release like every single release last year. So anyone who bought Hasbro pre-emptively knew what they were doing. There is absolutely no surprise from this. Takara is charging 96$ US for this release, thats the same Hasbro is charging for their complete combiner. I really do not understand your point of view in the least and it seems formed up of misinformation. If you have any questions or dont understand these details correctly, you are in the right place to ask

Not 100% but I think it means for people paying purely for the new blast off (in that sense he's correct as almost $100 for one deluxe is crazy) but of course most people want the whole set, of which shuttle blast off is a nifty bonus. Plus the amount of money people will charge for the mould individually will be extortion. After all, some of the sets sold will be split up to be sold separately on some sites

[Sabrblade]

If anything, colorwise, is to be taken from this image, we can see that Bruticus's chestplate is in dark colors, and his feet pieces appear to be molded in separate colors.

[Genericon #378]

Not a big fan of Blast Off. I'm not going to pay the price of 3 voyagers for Bruticus, and I'm certainly not going to fork over any extra for shipping. I'll stick with my Hasbro Bruticus, thank you very much.

[william-james88]

Not a big fan of Blast Off. I'm not going to pay the price of 3 voyagers for Bruticus, and I'm certainly not going to fork over any extra for shipping. I'll stick with my Hasbro Bruticus, thank you very much.

Hasbro's Bruticus also costs the same amount as 3 voyagers.

cor blimey! your right guvnor!

well....you should've been able to buy those separate...... grrr(shakes fist at Takara).

They know you guys want it and are going to make you pay unbelievable prices for it Takara is Swindle confirmed.
Not literally the case but it might as well be.

What are you talking about? Takara showed all along that they would be giving us a shuttle blastoff and we knew it would be anounced after the Hasbro release like every single release last year. So anyone who bought Hasbro pre-emptively knew what they were doing. There is absolutely no surprise from this. Takara is charging 96$ US for this release, thats the same Hasbro is charging for their complete combiner. I really do not understand your point of view in the least and it seems formed up of misinformation. If you have any questions or dont understand these details correctly, you are in the right place to ask

Not 100% but I think it means for people paying purely for the new blast off (in that sense he's correct as almost $100 for one deluxe is crazy) but of course most people want the whole set, of which shuttle blast off is a nifty bonus. Plus the amount of money people will charge for the mould individually will be extortion. After all, some of the sets sold will be split up to be sold separately on some sites

He said specifically that Takara was swindling us and I wanted to end that misinformation right here, since it can propogate lies and ill sentiments towards a company that has done nothing but be honest and straight with it's fans. Yuki told us early on to expect a shuttle blastoff. Anyone who wanted one could just have waited.

[Rated X]

I have faith Blast Off will look a lot better than these blurry pics. Even if it isn't perfect, it's still 1000% improvement over a Slingshot dunked in dookie dye.

[Genericon #378]

I have faith Blast Off will look a lot better than these blurry pics. Even if it isn't perfect, it's still 1000% improvement over a Slingshot dunked in dookie dye.

As expected, you are all still eating it up, even if it looks like utter trash.

[william-james88]

I have faith Blast Off will look a lot better than these blurry pics. Even if it isn't perfect, it's still 1000% improvement over a Slingshot dunked in dookie dye.

As expected, you are all still eating it up, even if it looks like utter trash.

Everyone is entitled to their opinions. Lets be nice to eachother.

[megatronus]

PS: I just did my calculations and while it is obviously more advantageous for anyone outside the states to buy directly from japan instead of getting it from TF Source, any US collectors wont reap much from the difference of importing themselves this time. They would save at most 10$US, so not that much.

That depends on what else you have in your Private Warehouse or what have you. The savings could be quite a bit more than $10 if you distribute shipping over multiple items, no?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Just from this image, I'm not feeling the Blastoff. But the Vortex looks loads better with 4 blades!

[Hellscream9999]

But then why was defensor an exclusive?

Maybe they saw the demand for Defensor and realised they could sell a ton more if they don't make it exclusive?

No. Firstly, Defensor was not an exclusive everywhere, just an exclusive in japan. There are thousands of Defensors out there and he is still readily available everywhere... but for a price. Whatever Takara makes an exclusive in japan, Hasbro Asia makes it non exclusive at a higher price to supply whatever demand there could be. And they charge higher They pay Takara a nice sum to have this privaledge. They have done this 3 times now, while Takara had 3 non exclusives before. Maybe the contract with hasbro asia (thath THEY wold provde the supply rather than Takara) was only for 3 releases. And now that they have their 3, Takara can make their newest one a non exclusive and let other japanese outlets sell it. There will still be a Hasbro Asia version, priced higher, but hat will not be the only way to get that figure now. We can get the cheaper Japan version. I know I will.

Could this possibly be how they make money/break even for selling their other figures at a lower price considering how much money goes into making/changing the molds, and giving them over-the-top deco's?

[william-james88]

Could this possibly be how they make money/break even for selling their other figures at a lower price considering how much money goes into making/changing the molds, and giving them over-the-top deco's?

Yes, I am definitely open to that theory. However, as you previously stated it seems that this time around, the decos are more different than more plentiful (like with Defensor). The Takara edge for the UW line is more the mold use rather than the "extra" deco.

[Hellscream9999]

Could this possibly be how they make money/break even for selling their other figures at a lower price considering how much money goes into making/changing the molds, and giving them over-the-top deco's?

Yes, I am definitely open to that theory. However, as you previously stated it seems that this time around, the decos are more different than more plentiful (like with Defensor). The Takara edge for the UW line is more the mold use rather than the "extra" deco.

Well, I meant in general, including the tav and legends figures, like we've been wondering for a while, they gotta make money somewhere...

[william-james88]

Could this possibly be how they make money/break even for selling their other figures at a lower price considering how much money goes into making/changing the molds, and giving them over-the-top deco's?

Yes, I am definitely open to that theory. However, as you previously stated it seems that this time around, the decos are more different than more plentiful (like with Defensor). The Takara edge for the UW line is more the mold use rather than the "extra" deco.

Well, I meant in general, including the tav and legends figures, like we've been wondering for a while, they gotta make money somewhere...

Oh right yes! And yeah, totally, these contracts with hasbro asia to distribute their toys could be a great source of income.

I also think that the reason they can have a higher production cost is because their cost of engineering is greatly mitigated by Hasbro comissioning them to come up with it.

[Doctor McGrath]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

[Stuartmaximus]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

indeed

[Sabrblade]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

[Evil Eye]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

But they aren't GEEWUN. In the game of Transformers you GEEWUN or you shelfwarm.

[Sabrblade]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

But they aren't GEEWUN. In the game of Transformers you GEEWUN or you shelfwarm.

Tell that to the shelfwarming Optimus Maximus limbs that are more GEEWUN than all the other CW limbs.

[Evil Eye]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

But they aren't GEEWUN. In the game of Transformers you GEEWUN or you shelfwarm.

Tell that to the shelfwarming Optimus Maximus limbs that are more GEEWUN than all the other CW limbs.

Ah, but they were never combiners in the cartoon you see. Hence the shelfwarming.

[william-james88]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

Also RID Leader Optimus, RID Voyager Grimlock, Prime Ironhide, Prime AND Tank Fenzy/Rumble, Senator Ratbat, Animated Blackout and on and on and on.

But yeah, of all of them, Breakdown is the one i fid unforgiveable, especially for the reason they gave: that he is between classes.

[william-james88]

I still think Blast off & Groove will get a separate release much like Wildrider & Slingshot. Too much money to be made to ignore it.

On the other hand, people said the same thing about Prime War Breakdown, Gaia Unicron, and Jet Vehicon.

But they aren't GEEWUN. In the game of Transformers you GEEWUN or you shelfwarm.

Tell that to the shelfwarming Optimus Maximus limbs that are more GEEWUN than all the other CW limbs.

You cant call it shelfwarming yet, they are only the previous wave.

Also, interesting shelfwarming tidbit, it is impossible to know if the RID toy are shelfwarming since each wave keeps reissuing peviously issued toys. So if you see a bunch fo steeljaws, you might just have the most recent wave: