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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:23 am

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fenrir72 wrote:My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM).


I didnt know about that specialty shop. I always preferred that odd minimall near chinatown wth all those second hand collector shops all stacked close together. That's where I got the best deal on RID Air Atack Optimus Primal (for 30$ Singaporian). Good times :)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:06 am

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fenrir72 wrote:My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM).


I didnt know about that specialty shop. I always preferred that odd minimall near chinatown wth all those second hand collector shops all stacked close together. That's where I got the best deal on RID Air Atack Optimus Primal (for 30$ Singaporian). Good times :)


And just below it was a naughty adult shop with all the ero toys 8-}
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby jogunwarrior » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:42 am

Man, this is a tough one for me...I really want two of the five figures, but have no interest in the other three. Can't justify the price of the entire set for two deluxe bots...booo.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby gothsaurus » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:29 pm

you can always post which characters you're interested in... maybe another fan can split an order. :-?
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:34 pm

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Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.


I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.
Well thanks boss. :roll: Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf. :lol:
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man. :-P


I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress? :-(

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.


Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't :-?
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:34 pm

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Cobotron wrote:I don't get the fear of clear plastic. I have 19 to 22 year old Microman toys, like the ones in my sig that are fine. Heck Beast Wars and Beast Machines too. Maybe there is something to be said about mid-west American climate. I've also never had rubber wheels or tank treads dry rot on me.


I'm with you about the clear plastic, I've had very few have issues ... at least no moreso than regular plastic tabs or joints breaking on regular ol' plastic Transformers toys.

However, I'm definitely a plastic tires instead of rubber tires guy because the cracked tire problem is frustrating. If it hasn't happened to you yet, just consider yourself lucky though I'd be willing to be you've got a few cracked tires in your collection and you just haven't noticed yet ... especially if you live in the Midwest. Unless you constantly lubricate rubber tires on your Transformers, your G1, RID or Masterpiece Convoy tires will crack eventually, the same reason why O-Rings dry out with G.I. Joe figures and Masters of the Universe figures suffer their notorious crotch rot that most vintage MOTU figures suffer from eventually.
Well thanks boss. :roll: Now you got me all paranoid.
I would dig out RID Prime right now if he wasn't buried at the back of a shelf. :lol:
and ya, I have had plenty of Joes snap in half. That's an easy fix. Rubber tires not so much. It makes sense though. Rubber is an organic compound, so eventually it will break down. Looks like I have some inspecting to do.

And Fenrir, to be fare, my Black Big Convoy broke too, but not in the same place, and not clear plastic. that toy is just fragile all the way around.

I don't doubt the the clear plastic thing is a thing, but it would be interesting to know if climate has anything to do with it. My brother has had problems with clear plastic and rubber. He lives in California. And I know tropical climates reek havoc on all kinds of materials, so I could see where Fen lives being a factor.

It's all science man. :-P


I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress? :-(

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.


Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't :-?


The pose on the left arm was the neutral arms down no stress. But I think you hit the bulls eye about the ball joint. It is hard@ss big.

Now for the extremity mold used the UW/CW line. Its good that the actual 'bot head is different from the socket head unlike the original combiners. UW Groove is hopefully safe but the torso part where the connection to the shoulder socket. It is a future worrisome issue a few years from now (for the Starscream mold). It's the translucent part that is clamped on the "shoulder/socket part".

On if this set is worth the purchase......I'd say yes, but the traumatized part of me is what's holding back the order now as he is sooooooooo good looking with the new retools and recolors (d@mn you Starscream! :lol:

Starscream is always the cause of dissent among the 'cons 8-}
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby kurthy » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:14 pm

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This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:18 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
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fenrir72 wrote:I'm assigned in a tropical country mi amigo. That is a big factor I'd grant you that. But as stated in my other thread, the room where they are stored is under A/C at least 4 hours a day. Would you believe that I just transformed my Big Convoy just once since 2004 and left him in uber pose mode ever since? I was half expecting the "buster gun/trunk would be the first to give in ( I used Armor On on it) and the part in question ( left shoulder) never was exposed to added stress? :-(

My first RID I purchased was in Orchard Rd Singapore in 2002. Not in the local TRU but a specialty shop as the former didn't carry them (Hb version Fire Optimus Prime/UM). It didn't take 4 months for the front wheels of Optimus to crack.I later sold both for the Takara version back in 2009.......the Takara versions are still uncracked would you believe?)

So this is a risk for all of us collectors, especially if assigned in the tropics.


Well, leaving a figure in a pose, for a long time can be detrimental to joints; happened to most of my Bionicle collection, most of the ball sockets have cracked or snapped as a result of not being exercised. While not a strict comparison, they are both ball-socket joint systems, so lends some insight to the issue.

I will say that ball diameter may have something to do with it... Big convoys shoulders have large ball joints, and dragstrips are rather large, but the 'standard' size and below never give me an issue - as even now, cyb cannonball has squeaky ball joints, but wreckloose doesn't :-?


The pose on the left arm was the neutral arms down no stress. But I think you hit the bulls eye about the ball joint. It is hard@ss big.

Now for the extremity mold used the UW/CW line. Its good that the actual 'bot head is different from the socket head unlike the original combiners. UW Groove is hopefully safe but the torso part where the connection to the shoulder socket. It is a future worrisome issue a few years from now (for the Starscream mold). It's the translucent part that is clamped on the "shoulder/socket part".

On if this set is worth the purchase......I'd say yes, but the traumatized part of me is what's holding back the order now as he is sooooooooo good looking with the new retools and recolors (d@mn you Starscream! :lol:

Starscream is always the cause of dissent among the 'cons 8-}


Yeah, for whatever reason, 'standard' and smaller ball joints are fine, heck, my bw figures are still good (last I checked :oops: ) but once you get to about the size of the bionicle ball joint - actually they seem approximate to dragstrips shoulders :-? - the seem to go bad after a while, whether they were used or not - rook could be another one to look out for :shock:

But beyond anything else, I would have thought that large ball-socket joints would be prone to stress since the plastic is larger/thicker/denser than that of smaller ball-joints, and would thus be prone to stress - especially if you removed it; perhaps cracking is the stress skipping the middle phase :-?
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:20 pm

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kurthy wrote:This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.


Yeah, you should probably switch to Lego's then, no heartache there ;)
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:23 pm

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kurthy wrote:This thread is depressing. It's made me re-evaluate if I want to continue collecting toys, especially after a broken tab on Scrapper and just picking up a sealed Acid Storm only to open it up and find misassembled hips.

TFs have always had a limited lifetime IRL. Poorly designed joints have been an issue since G1. Hello, Metroplex! How many guns with broken pegs? You have to really care for a die cast figure to make sure the paint doesn't come off. Stressed joints and chipped paint are part of being a collector. It will happen to every figure eventually. And I haven't even gotten to GPS.


We learn a new development each day. Nothing lasts forever. The trouble is that when the damage is caused by GPS and translucentous breakousmyheartis syndrome. I think these two phenomena are twins separated by birth.And there is no "American Restorations" for TF figures :lol:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:24 am

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I can confirm that clear plastic is pure evil. Most Japanese figure stands are made of the stuff and they just love to break. And don't get me started on the Legends Abominus box-set, which is made almost entirely of clear plastic (Sinnertwin is permanently in "thunder thigh mode" after his rotating thigh panels snapped and had to be glued in place).
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:12 pm

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Looks like Takara's getting in on the toy news bandwagon - https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/685652739544584192

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Blast Off looks to be a new mold, and Vorter (Vortex) appears to have FOUR rotor blades!
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Unite Warriors Bruticus Teaser with Blast-off Shuttle mode Confirmed

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:13 pm

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Fellow Siebertronians, courtesy of TFYuki, we get our first look at Unite Warriors Bruticus by way of this silhouette, and, confirming what many have long-suspected, through it we get a first-look at UW Blast-off. And, as his fore-bearer UW Groove, Blast-off, too, seems to be getting the UW treatment of receiving a G1 accurate mold in the form of a shuttle. Not only that, but it appears that Vortex too is receiving some remolding in the form of a 4 rotor prop.

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Postby steals_your_goats » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:15 pm

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AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:17 pm

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That shoulder sho nuff looks like a shuttle nose to me. :APPLAUSE:
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Postby Autobot N » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:18 pm

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:20 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:22 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.


**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:25 pm

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Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.


**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.


It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby megatronus » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:26 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.


**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.

Agreed. $100 on an import site beats $160+ at BBTS. Every time.
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:29 pm

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Burn wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!! New vortex and blast off!!!! :KREMZEEK: :KREMZEEK: :michaelbay: :BOWDOWN:

So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.


**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.


It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment :HEADHURTS:


GHAAARGH! We are at 50 50 now. UW 1-3 were wide releases but 4-6 were exclusive. There was no rhyme or reason to it. I hope it goes back to wide releases.
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Postby Agamemnon » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:29 pm

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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:34 pm

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So glad I waited for the Takara version.


But now we wait to see if its exclusive or not.


**** better not be. You made us jump through hoops for Defensor TT, don't make us jump for Bruticus.


It will most likely be exclusive, be very prepared for disappointment :HEADHURTS:


GHAAARGH! We are at 50 50 now. UW 1-3 were wide releases but 4-6 were exclusive. There was no rhyme or reason to it. I hope it goes back to wide releases.


That o/p set is exclusive? wow, what an underwhelming joke :HEADHURTS:
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Re: Takara Transformers Unite Warriors Discussion Thread

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:36 pm

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