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[william-james88]

Man, that last shot makes Predaking look so SWEET! He is perfectly in scale and totally doesnt look out of place with these more "modern" versions which is a true testament to the quality of that figure. That is probably the best 100$ I ever spent on a TF, the value (especially considering the cost of the G1 reissues post him) is unbeatable.

I hope your defensor is complete sometime soon as well!

[-Kanrabat-]

Man, that last shot makes Predaking look so SWEET! He is perfectly in scale and totally doesnt look out of place with these more "modern" versions which is a true testament to the quality of that figure. That is probably the best 100$ I ever spent on a TF, the value (especially considering the cost of the G1 reissues post him) is unbeatable.

I hope your defensor is complete sometime soon as well!

Hell yeah Predaking! He IS totally in scale with Combiner Wars. Despite not having a voyager torso, the fact that all member of the team are slightly bigger than deluxes make the whole combiner in scale an very beefy looking. He's also way more solid and satisfying than the derpy and tiny G1 Scramble City combiners. That's indeed a 115$CAN that I will never regret!

Also, what do you think about my Runabout configuration?

Finally Defensor is going on a roadtrip...

Well, I'll be damn... I just wanted to post the preview as a joke, but it was harder to find than I though. I ended up finding the whole movie!

[Seibertron]

Everyone talks about Groove being retooled into Afterburner, but honestly, I think this mold might make a better Wreck-Gar/Junkion. The square-ish chest really works.

And honestly... who doesn't want a junkion combiner?

We're getting a Legends class Wreck-Gar.

........so?

So take a reworked Defensor torso, four randomly colored grooves with different head sculpts and the legends Wreck-Gar and you have a Junkion combiner Which, honestly, would be such a great use of the Combiner Wars concept that I'm gonna be disappointed now when it never happens.

I hopped on this topic to share my wonderful idea of Groove being remolded into Wreck-Gar only to see that all of you guys have said it already. See? Great minds do think alike! Not sure I'd like a Junkion combiner, but a 1986 combiner with Sky Lynx and some other characters would be fantastic.

[william-james88]

Also, what do you think about my Runabout configuration?

Your configuration is perfectly fine but I do not have anough confidence in my talents to alter my figures as you do. And plus, I actuallydo no like the chest emelishment gimick on Menasor or Defensor. I preffer them straight up without any embelishment as the Takara sets showcase. My combiner teams only have 5 members.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Also, what do you think about my Runabout configuration?

Your configuration is perfectly fine but I do not have anough confidence in my talents to alter my figures as you do. And plus, I actuallydo no like the chest emelishment gimick on Menasor or Defensor. I preffer them straight up without any embelishment as the Takara sets showcase. My combiner teams only have 5 members.

Same way I'm planning to have my combiners.

[Ultra Markus]

i dont care how or when i just want hasbro to release that deluxe groove
and yes this mold has lots of potential as other characters like you know afterburner, wreck-gar
or maybe sideways? one can only dream!

[Cyberpath]

Comparison shot of Streetwise in robot-mode from Yuki:



On the left: the Takara version, with a more cartoon/toy accurate deco.








And car mode:



Takara on the right.

[RAR]

Funny how much painting the wheels makes such a difference.
I don't dislike the Blue on the Hasbro one though as it complements the Protectobot giftset one that is based on Beast Hunters Prowl which has some blue on it too.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

So they're re-releasing the UW Defensor NOT as a Japan mall exclusive?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

@Kanrabat, that is a pretty sweet looking figure there! And I personally am keeping the 6-member teams, they actually kinda work for me

[DedicatedGhostArt]

@Kanrabat, that is a pretty sweet looking figure there! And I personally am keeping the 6-member teams, they actually kinda work for me

Blackjack's concept works, he just makes Menasor's combined mode fat.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

@Kanrabat, that is a pretty sweet looking figure there! And I personally am keeping the 6-member teams, they actually kinda work for me

Blackjack's concept works, he just makes Menasor's combined mode fat.

I personally think it places the head closer to the front of the chest. and I like the Blackjack weapon chest better too

[Jelze Bunnycat]

So they're re-releasing the UW Defensor NOT as a Japan mall exclusive?

It's still an online exclusive, no re-releases have been announced... yet. Never hurts to hope.

[chuckdawg1999]

So they're re-releasing the UW Defensor NOT as a Japan mall exclusive?

It's still an online exclusive, no re-releases have been announced... yet. Never hurts to hope.

I've seen a lot, but I've never seen a figure re-released before it was ever released.

[fenrir72]

So they're re-releasing the UW Defensor NOT as a Japan mall exclusive?

It's still an online exclusive, no re-releases have been announced... yet. Never hurts to hope.

I've seen a lot, but I've never seen a figure re-released before it was ever released.

If that re-release will actually happen, if the demand is so high, might be another six months post last week of October or mid November. That'll be around May 2016. (A big if) but I don't think it will be retail. Maybe that d@mn Tomy Mall exclusive again.

[chuckdawg1999]

Looking at how much better Takara's Defensor is I'm probably going to sell my CW figures as a set. Hold on to Mini Groove though.

[RAR]

Pre-Orders closed for Guardian/Defensor now so does that mean when the Tomy Mall place actually has them they will open it to buy again when they have the actual stock ? or are they only sold on pre-order and because the pre-order sold out the toy has sold out too ?

[fenrir72]

Most probably their entire first run printing is sold out now. Mind you, those have already been paid for already. Now all we need is a little energon and a lot of.........waiting.

[Burn]

I thought I'd got my pre-order in ... turns out I hadn't.

[RAR]

What I was imply before - is that perhaps the entire production run isn't covered by the pre-orders there might be at least two more chances to get some of the initial production run in tiny numbers.

Either that held some back to sell as live stock online when they are released so if someone is nimble fingered in Japan they 'might' get a small chance to get ones they help back for that purpose.

The other way may be events like the Tokyo Toyshow may sell some on the Takara-Tomy stand.

The analogy I would use would be the Transformers Prime Tokyo Toyshow exclusives and the Exclusive Tigertrack Masterpiece.

Both of those showed up all sorts of other places above an beyond the initial place. Now in this instance I doubt they'd show up on E-Hobby since the Mall store is a direct rival to that.

But I really don't think we should rule out other ways for the 1st wave to show up in small numbers just yet - all be difficult to get ways.

Then maybe if we are very lucky a second run might get made and that might not be a Japanese exclusive it might be part of the stock that goes to Australia or delegated to Hong Kong & China distribution.

There is certainly demand for the set so I think it's "The wise thing to do" to make more of them even if the 1st run actually did sell out completely and there really is no more.

I expect there will be a few more show up though for the fleet footed types via such secondary means - just as happened with the Cloud toys relatively recently.

[Agamemnon]

I know it may not be cost effective for some, but BBTS still has pre-order stock on Defensor...

[Edit] TF source, too...

[fenrir72]

Man, that last shot makes Predaking look so SWEET! He is perfectly in scale and totally doesnt look out of place with these more "modern" versions which is a true testament to the quality of that figure. That is probably the best 100$ I ever spent on a TF, the value (especially considering the cost of the G1 reissues post him) is unbeatable.

I hope your defensor is complete sometime soon as well!

Hell yeah Predaking! He IS totally in scale with Combiner Wars. Despite not having a voyager torso, the fact that all member of the team are slightly bigger than deluxes make the whole combiner in scale an very beefy looking. He's also way more solid and satisfying than the derpy and tiny G1 Scramble City combiners. That's indeed a 115$CAN that I will never regret!

Also, what do you think about my Runabout configuration?

Finally Defensor is going on a roadtrip...

Well, I'll be damn... I just wanted to post the preview as a joke, but it was harder to find than I though. I ended up finding the whole movie!

Hey K

Is your Menasor ratchets floppy/loose? Mine's kind of floppy.....arrgh!

[william-james88]

I am actually wondering something about Takara's Defensor, are the ones available at BBTs the same available at Takaratomy mall, or are they of a seperate China run? Because both MP Skywarp and Thundercracker were takaratomy mall exclusives and very limiited in japan, but there were asia releases that were available and THAT is the version you can buy at BBTS and TFSource. Its even written on the listing:

Thundercracker:

This is the Asian market release of this product

So not the limited Takaratomymall release.

But Defensor's listing at TFSource is the following:

This is a takaratomy mall exclusive set

So are we to assume then that the Defensors we see are actually from the same run as the ones exclusive ot Takaratomy mall? If so, the price difference doesnt make much sense, wouldnt Defensor be more expensive than the markups found on Thundercracker who is not limited in distribution?

If anyone has any theories or incite as to where this defensor is coming from, let me know.

[fenrir72]

I am actually wondering something about Takara's Defensor, are the ones available at BBTs the same available at Takaratomy mall, or are they of a seperate China run? Because both MP Skywarp and Thundercracker were takaratomy mall exclusives and very limiited in japan, but there were asia releases that were available and THAT is the version you can buy at BBTS and TFSource. Its even written on the listing:

Thundercracker:

This is the Asian market release of this product

So not the limited Takaratomymall release.

But Defensor's listing at TFSource is the following:

This is a takaratomy mall exclusive set

So are we to assume then that the Defensors we see are actually from the same run as the ones exclusive ot Takaratomy mall? If so, the price difference doesnt make much sense, wouldnt Defensor be more expensive than the markups found on Thundercracker who is not limited in distribution?

If anyone has any theories or incite as to where this defensor is coming from, let me know.

Maybe ask those guys at BBTS? Could it be a super secret contract deal?

[Agamemnon]

My suspicion is that some US (and maybe elsewhere) retailers were able to secure a few cases from Tomy Mall for US distribution. I don't know what deals would have to be struck. If I were a retailer like BBTS, I'd figure there would be enough demand for this product that I would be willing to cut my margins pretty tight and not markup too drastically. (The main fear would be sitting on inventory and losing money, especially if the set is too expensive.) It may also be that initial pre-orders helped to set the overall production run, or at least the amount shipped to the US.

That's my theory...