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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:00 pm

BlueBefore wrote:
Xephon0930 wrote:So not only does the Takara release have better paint as well as individual weapons and a removable visor,but Long Haul and Scrapper has functioning elbows?

This makes the Hasbro molds look like unfinished prototypes.
Meanwhile
Hellscream9999 wrote:Well Dragstrip looks positively garish in that full neon yellow (with no additional paint apps to break it up)

Yup, TT's Dragstrip looks horrible, but TT's Devastaor is awesome! all the elbows, all the weapons, visors, eyes, stuff... it's amazing

by **AutobotAlvaron** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:02 pm

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I just had to... :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:22 pm

Wow! This is so much more than I dared even dream for Takara's version of Devastator. Retractable visor for both cartoon models? Purple hands for Devastaor? Cartoon accurate decos that brilliantly work with both the individual robots and the gestalt form? Personal weapons for each member of the team? Elbows for EVERYONE!? I have a feeling this reveal is going to tank the sales of the SDCC version. I can't wait to preorder this astonishing labor of love from Takara!

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:29 pm

While I'm concerned about the longevity and strength of the joints I have to tip my hat to Takara. This is by far the Devastator we wanted. It'll be a tough wait but I'll wait nonetheless.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:40 pm

Original post updated with ELBOWS!!!

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:43 pm

Yep, reckon ol Scrapper will develop bad elbows over time.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:45 pm

Burn wrote:Yep, reckon ol Scrapper will develop bad elbows over time.

I think it depends on how strong the pin joint is and how Devastator is posed. If the weight is coming straight down it should be fine as it looks like the arms lock up to some extent.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:46 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Burn wrote:Yep, reckon ol Scrapper will develop bad elbows over time.

I think it depends on how strong the pin joint is and how Devastator is posed. If the weight is coming straight down it should be fine as it looks like the arms lock up to some extent.

Most of those outside of Japan will be collectors anyway, so I doubt they'll be moving the elbows much so they should be fine.

But if someone buys them for kids, could be a different story.

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:00 pm

Has anyone else taken note that Scrapper's new forearms look like they're hand-painted? I'm thinking either the final retools are still in the prototype phase, or maybe they're made of a different material, possibly something sturdier to augment the structural integrity of Devastator's right heel in gestalt mode, if it is true that the reason for the lack of elbow articulation in the Hasbro version was for greater stability of that joint.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:17 pm

Wolfman Jake wrote:Has anyone else taken note that Scrapper's new forearms look like they're hand-painted? I'm thinking either the final retools are still in the prototype phase, or maybe they're made of a different material, possibly something sturdier to augment the structural integrity of Devastator's right heel in gestalt mode, if it is true that the reason for the lack of elbow articulation in the Hasbro version was for greater stability of that joint.

It could also be that they are new, added in after seeing how many people would purchase their Devastator should include a few additional features; increase the budget a little, make a massive profit off of it, seems reasonable, eh?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:30 pm

william-james88 wrote:FINALLY! We get our very first full look at Unite Warriors Devastator and the individual constructicons. This was announced at the Transformers panel of the 2015 Tokyo Toy Show and you will find a few pictures of the reveal below, brought to us by Daim Choc's Facebook page and a tip from fellow Seibertronian MaverickPrime.

The big highlights are the different paint apps. I have also put pictures from the SDCC version, G1 version and Hasbro Combiner Wars version for comparisons. It seems to be as faithful to G1 as possible and there is no chrome.

The visor is retractable and as previously hinted, all Constructicons have individual weapons. Also, while the images are small, you can tell that both Long Haul and Scrapper have elbows. All of these features are not present on the SDCC Devastator.

SDCC Exclusive

Hasbro Combiner Wars

Generation 1

I just wet my pants over an overscaled toy made for for kids :lol:

A lot of people are gonna eat crow now :twisted:

EDIT:

SO AWESOME!

I almost: https://youtu.be/6dOwHzCHfgA

by **guarayakha** » Fri Jun 19, 2015 11:55 pm

Takara- Fixing Hasbro weirdass decisions one combiner at a time lol :lol:

So how many of you guys are cancelling their POs for Hasbrostator in the light of this news? Or are you guys going to wait longer for a Hasbro v2 reissue?

by **jay5** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:57 am

Rumor has it this was taken moments before he dropped the mic and walked out to thunderous applause:

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 12:59 am

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:20 am

guarayakha wrote:Takara- Fixing Hasbro weirdass decisions one combiner at a time lol

So how many of you guys are cancelling their POs for Hasbrostator in the light of this news? Or are you guys going to wait longer for a Hasbro v2 reissue?

No no no no........this Titan class is just for kids............ain't it? :lol:

Scaled for lazy parents to buy for their dingdong toddlers?

Isn't the manly toys the ones made by the 3rd party? 8-}

For those whose sarcasm meter's are offline, please read between the lines.

Now we'll be getting a demand that TT SRP their baby to the SRP of the Hasbro version.................

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:01 am

Welp. Confirmed elbows. This is getting brought up at Botcon for sure. Where do I sign up to eat my words?

We need a time accelerator to look at how age is going to wear on Scrapper's elbows. I'm genuinely curious. I hope they've got a solid lock on them, like a clip or something, to help.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:23 am

Well crank my spine and call me Flywheels.

I still like the look of Hercules better, but knowing they have individual guns, ELBOWS and much better paint jobs makes me actually consider this. Scrapper actually looks good now.

Bravo Takara. Bravo.

Also, shame on Hasbro and everyone defending them.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:00 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Also, shame on Hasbro and everyone defending them.

I have no shame in supporting Hasbros Devastator. I plan to only display him in combined mode so elbows and guns are pointless to me. So I should feel shame over that? I think not.

So I'm going to ask this question to you (and anyone else who feels like answering) ... when you purchase Takara Tomy's Devastator, how will you be displaying him?

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:24 am

Burn wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Also, shame on Hasbro and everyone defending them.

I have no shame in supporting Hasbros Devastator. I plan to only display him in combined mode so elbows and guns are pointless to me. So I should feel shame over that? I think not.

So I'm going to ask this question to you (and anyone else who feels like answering) ... when you purchase Takara Tomy's Devastator, how will you be displaying him?

Most of the time in Gestalt mode. Same thing I did with Encore 20A.....unless I do a little toy soldier reenactment pew pew role play ( I'm basically an overgrown kid post duty in the real world :oops:

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Like f-primus-unicron on Facebook · by **f-primus-unicron** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:25 am

mmm since the arms are rotated in combined mode, i dont think the elbows themselves will be a problem

by **Robogeek1973** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:32 am

Burn wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Also, shame on Hasbro and everyone defending them.

I have no shame in supporting Hasbros Devastator. I plan to only display him in combined mode so elbows and guns are pointless to me. So I should feel shame over that? I think not.

So I'm going to ask this question to you (and anyone else who feels like answering) ... when you purchase Takara Tomy's Devastator, how will you be displaying him?

I've said this a few times but will do so again.

I mainly display my combiners in their individual bot modes, so that's why joints are so important to me. I'm just afraid this now means that Hasbro's version won't sell very well, and screw us all in the long run.

by **BlueBefore** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:34 am

guarayakha wrote:Takara- Fixing Hasbro weirdass decisions one combiner at a time lol

Yes, it was quite wierd of Hasbro to give Dragstrip more than one colour.

News Credits: 21 · by **dragons** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:41 am

I still buy Takara no chrome detail elbows not big deal to me he be in combined mode

by **Yotsuyasan** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:58 am

Gotta say, I'm impressed, Takara. I'm impressed. Aside from size (as I've always thought this Devastator was too large) Takara managed to fix every issue I had with the Hasbro weapons. Elbows for everyone! Individual guns for the individual members! (An issue I didn't even think I had until Takara said, "Look what we're doing!") And somehow, the way they have it painted makes the tiny foot on the Mixmaster leg look less grievous. Bravo, Takara. I tip my hat off to you.

guarayakha wrote:Takara- Fixing Hasbro weirdass decisions one combiner at a time lol

jay5 wrote:

Burn wrote:So I'm going to ask this question to you (and anyone else who feels like answering) ... when you purchase Takara Tomy's Devastator, how will you be displaying him?

Well, Burn, I know many do only display their gestalts combined, and maybe my opinion won't count here since I am not getting this Devastator, but I for one regularly alternate mine between modes. My gestalts have been in individual robot modes for a few weeks to a month now. Before that, they were in their combined modes. And I've been itching to put them in vehicle mode, so that will probably happen soon.

Personally, aside from mint-in-box collectors, I just don't get people who buy 'em, stick 'em in one mode, and leave 'em like that forever. They're Transformers. They need to be transformed! Otherwise, I'd just buy collectable statuettes of the characters and stick those on my shelf.

by **Dagon** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:01 am

Burn wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:Also, shame on Hasbro and everyone defending them.

I have no shame in supporting Hasbros Devastator. I plan to only display him in combined mode so elbows and guns are pointless to me. So I should feel shame over that? I think not.

So I'm going to ask this question to you (and anyone else who feels like answering) ... when you purchase Takara Tomy's Devastator, how will you be displaying him?

However I want to. And to be honest, I think the individual robots look nicer than the combined form, so mine will probably be separated a fair amount of time. I know the elbows are a small thing, but I always feel better about buying a toy, particularly an expensive one, that I actually like rather than one that I'm told is "good enough" or that I should like because blah blah children.
Plus, have we already eliminated the possibility that in addition to the elbow TT hasn't added a tab or some other kind of locking element into the clearly new forearm part? They could have but for that we have to wait and see.