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by **Yotsuyasan** » Thu May 21, 2015 4:40 am

Yup, my pre-orders for the Hasbro versions of the Protectobots are canceled! And as soon as this guy goes up for pre-order, I'll be adding him to my Source Stack. Yeah, if the past is any indication, Hasbro will eventually release the Deluxe Groove as well, but this way I will get everything I need all in one package without having to worry about missing something. (And probably with nicer decos, although I know that is subject to opinion.)

I did think the Legends Groove was a cool looking little mold, though. I hope he gets repainted into someone else. Or heck, if I ever happen to see him in stores and there is nothing else I need that day, I may just give in and grab him to use as a stand alone figure. But he shan't be a priority.

Likewise for Rook, although I am sure he will be remolded into someone else eventually. Of course, if his remold is for the Combatacons, I may be out of luck, since I am planning to stick with the Combatacons I already have. (Fansproject augmented Asian Exclusive re-release of the Energon molds.)

I suppose if I happened across both Rook and Legends Groove in brick-and-mortar-land, I could pick them up and have two different configurations for Defensor! But whatever. I shan't be going out of my way for them, and I won't loose sleep if I never get them. But I shall keep half an eye out.

In non-Defensor news:

Man, I think Hasbro wins on the Powerglide front! The white circle around his faction symbol on the Takara version just looks so out of place!

by **Stryfe Convoy** » Thu May 21, 2015 6:05 am

I don't know about this deluxe Groove. I'm still waiting for an in color, fully combined pic, but the combined pic they have in that magazine makes Groove look skinny as all hell compared to Streetwise. Maybe making First Aid a leg and have Blades and Groove be skinny arms? I don't know. I just looks off to me...

by **ausbot** » Thu May 21, 2015 6:20 am

Now I would like either a new Junkion or Cykil from that Groove figure.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Thu May 21, 2015 8:24 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Diem wrote:"Phantomjaw"?
Only explanation/rationale I can think of it "LOL, Japan!"

by **RiddlerJ** » Thu May 21, 2015 8:53 am

Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook all get recruited into Galvatronus. But who will number 4 be?

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:06 am

Stryfe Convoy wrote:I don't know about this deluxe Groove. I'm still waiting for an in color, fully combined pic, but the combined pic they have in that magazine makes Groove look skinny as all hell compared to Streetwise. Maybe making First Aid a leg and have Blades and Groove be skinny arms? I don't know. I just looks off to me...

I have a great resolution for that. The offroad/first aid mold works much better as a leg giving Defensor a kneepad, and the streetwise mold can also give a kneepad by lifting the hood up. So you keep those two for the legs and keep Groove and Blades as arms. It will work super well. Looking forward to seeing how Groove looks as an arm. Don`t know when we will know that though since for the first time, its Takara revealing a new combiner war mold and we might not know until people get them in hand in fall or until Hasbro releases their version ala Brake-neck . This is very exciting!

RiddlerJ wrote:Alpha Bravo, Offroad, and Rook all get recruited into Galvatronus. But who will number 4 be?

No one. It was found in a computer that next year's outings wouldn't go this route:

Alright, first up is Combiner Wars. I already revealed that we are getting Bruticus but I can now confirm his limbs... and breaking the trend Superion, Menasor, and Defensor began, the entire Combaticon original team will be released as deluxe limbs! They are:

Vortex-b4659
Brawl-b4660
Swindle- b4661
Blast-Off- b4662

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:19 am

Nope. Hasbro did it right. Groove being a limb needs to be forgotten ASAP.

I really hope they make Blast Off into a jet, or even one of those unmanned military spaceplanes.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:24 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Nope. Hasbro did it right. Groove being a limb needs to be forgotten ASAP.

I really hope they make Blast Off into a jet, or even one of those unmanned military spaceplanes.

G1 being the basis of Transformers needs to be forgotten.

Also Takara is still releasing this mold as a repaint named Override http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Override_(Adventure)

Probably based on the G1 Transformer who is also a motorcycle.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:26 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Nope. Hasbro did it right. Groove being a limb needs to be forgotten ASAP.

It's either scale (which is a joke in any toy line) or G1 accuracy. You can't have both.

by **Yotsuyasan** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:26 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Nope. Hasbro did it right. Groove being a limb needs to be forgotten ASAP.

Well, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it, but not everyone (myself included) will agree. That is the beauty of the current situation, however... Choice! Everybody wins!

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 9:39 am

Delta Magnus wrote:Nope. Hasbro did it right. Groove being a limb needs to be forgotten ASAP.

That statement only works if Hasbro NEVER releases it here.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:00 am

Just yesterday Unite Warriors deluxe Groove was revealed for Takara's Defensor. And today Thanks to Autobase Aichi via Facebook we have some official prototype images of Unite Warriors deluxe Groove! The pictures shows off Groove in both is robot and alt modes as well as his arm and leg modes when combine to form Defensor! Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:03 am

AWESOME! Even though he works better as an arm due to how sleeker he is, I love the way groove looks independently as a leg. The way the motorcycle windshield sits there is really nice.

News Credits: 461 · by **mooncake623** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:04 am

william-james88 wrote:AWESOME! Even though he works better as an arm due to how sleeker he is, I love the way groove looks independently as a leg. The way the motorcycle windshield sits there is really nice.

Looks like Afterburner as an arm no?

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:07 am

mooncake623 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:AWESOME! Even though he works better as an arm due to how sleeker he is, I love the way groove looks independently as a leg. The way the motorcycle windshield sits there is really nice.

Looks like Afterburner as an arm no?

BIG TIME!

Transformers G1 1987 Computron (Computicon) Gallery

My only pet peeve with Deluxe Groove are the visible hands in motorcycle mode.

by **Syn_13** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:07 am

That's just what I've been waiting for!

I've still yet to get Slignshot and Wildrider to complete my Hasbro and Superion and Menasor, but I'll definitely be all in for the Takara version of Defensor.

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:10 am

Syn_13 wrote:That's just what I've been waiting for!

I've still yet to get Slignshot and Wildrider to complete my Hasbro and Superion and Menasor, but I'll definitely be all in for the Takara version of Defensor.

You dont want to wait until Hasbro reveals their deluxe Groove instead?

by **hinomars19** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:10 am

Keeping an eagle eye on Kapow toys for a pre-order on this!

News Credits: 26 · by **MaverickPrime** » Thu May 21, 2015 10:59 am

Amazing!

by **Moosey** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:22 am

Though I'm going with hasbro for all the combiners, this is still super cool since this could be a first look at Afterburner! Think the mold looks fantastic, can't wait to see the paint job.

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:25 am

Moosey wrote:Though I'm going with hasbro for all the combiners, this is still super cool since this could be a first look at Afterburner! Think the mold looks fantastic, can't wait to see the paint job.

Moosey, are you also gonna try to get the web exclusive limbs or just the brick and mortar stuff?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:48 am

Should it be noted that the Guardian shown is the "foreign color" edition, i.e. they're using the Hasbro Defensor as a stand-in?

by **SFXPrime** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:58 am

What is the release date on this guy? Will they sell him separately?

News Credits: 4525 · by **william-james88** » Thu May 21, 2015 11:59 am

While we have all been excited about the new Deluxe Groove mold that was just revealed, the same source for the images, Takratomymall, also has some fine print that might have been glossed over. Below is the rough translation of the statement:

Third in a series, "Unite Warriors" that focuses on popular coalescence warrior of Transformers, with Tomy mall limited sale, Protectobots coalescence warrior "guardian" appeared of Cybertron!
Hot spot five bodies of the Grey's Street Wise First Aid groove comes with, it can be transformed into three modes of robot mode Vehicle mode combined form respectively.
In all character domestic addition to become the first mold, "groove" is unobtainable overseas completely new mold product!

It was verified that the lines in bold were not found in the listings for Unite Warriors Superion and Menasor. This means that unlike Wildrider and Slingshot, Hasbro will not be releasing their own version of this Deluxe Groove mold (as inferred from the text). This makes sense since they already have a Groove of their own, but of a different size. This does not mean that this mold will not be retooled in potential toys in the future, but it does seem that this particular Deluxe Groove will be a Japan exclusive, as it is said it will not be available overseas. So far, only Takara Tomy Mall have preorders for this Guardian set and it is unknown if other Japanese online retail sites will be offering him. Seibertron will strive to offer the latest developments on this. Do you interpret Takara's statement the same way? Make sure to discuss it in the Energon Pub.