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[o.supreme]

I know about the toy license issues, but there were many characters that were not Takara toys that got represented in the animated series- Jetfire (Skyfire), Omega Supreme, Skylynx, etc...I realize they were not sold as toys in Japan originally, but they did appear in the Marvel/Sunbow animated series, I don't see what would have stopped Marvel/Sunbow on the American side from animating the others. Also I knew about Dorvak for Roadbuster/Whirl. But Skyfire was obviously from Macross...didn't stop them there, they could have altered the characters appearance enough to make it less obvious like with skyfire.

[Sabrblade]

I know about the toy license issues, but there were many characters that were not Takara toys that got represented in the animated series- Jetfire (Skyfire), Omega Supreme, Skylynx, etc...I realize they were not sold as toys in Japan originally, but they did appear in the Marvel/Sunbow animated series, I don't see what would have stopped Marvel/Sunbow on the American side from animating the others. Also I knew about Dorvak for Roadbuster/Whirl. But Skyfire was obviously from Macross...didn't stop them there, they could have altered the characters appearance enough to make it less obvious like with skyfire.

Skyfire's ordeal might have been the catalyst that led to the Deluxe Autobots and Deluxe Insecticons not appearing in the show, as even though Skyfire made it in after having had his look and name changed, the episodes he appeared in were held back until the very end of the series when the show was dubbed and released over in Japan (which in turn enabled the Japanese to use "The Ultimate Doom" as a formal series finale story for the Japanese version).

[Va'al]

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Cyberpath, we have mirrored below the new official images from Takara Tomy Transformers for their Legends line offerings in the forms of Seaspray, Twin Twist, and Topspin! The first comes with Titan/Head Master Lione, while the other two are part of the Targetmaster sets, and each include red/black weaponformers. Plus, we also have comparison charts for all three the sets with Hasbro Titans Return counterparts and previous iterations of the figures from the past - check it all out below!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Ok, so Topspin has Peaceman/Peacemaker (aka pretool of Recoil), and Twin Twist has Spoil/Spoilsport. Line-up complete

[Bounti76]

Maybe it's just me, but Legends Topspin looks extra sassy in the pose he's in on the comparison chart. Like he's working the runway at the latest fashion show.

[Carnivius_Prime]

So many of those Titan Masters that don't have large bodies have really dorky large faces.

Also I'm getting really confused about the whole Target Master thing. The jumpstarters and the TM gun partners look fine on their own but the combinations don't work at all even just from colour scheme perspective.

[steals_your_goats]

So many of those Titan Masters that don't have large bodies have really dorky large faces.

Also I'm getting really confused about the whole Target Master thing. The jumpstarters and the TM gun partners look fine on their own but the combinations don't work at all even just from colour scheme perspective.

Red and black doesn't go with blue and white?

[kurthy]

Who are the characters those targetmasters are actually supposed to go with?

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Who are the characters those targetmasters are actually supposed to go with?

Firebolt, Recoil, Blowpipe, Aimless and Caliburst already come with their original partners, Hot Rod, Kup, Triggerhappy, Misfire and Slugsinger respectively. The rest:

- Haywire (Doublecross): Blurr
- Pinpointer (Windblade): Crosshairs (no release)
- Spoilsport (Twin Twist): Sureshot (no release)
- Peacemaker (Topspin): Pointblank (no release)

And with that, I can finally remember which name goes with which partner! Yet I can't ID the actual toys on first sight. Derp

[Kurona]

And thus, Nightstick and Fracas were ever consigned to the hell between universes; never to return.

[Sabrblade]

Who are the characters those targetmasters are actually supposed to go with?

Firebolt, Recoil, Blowpipe, Aimless and Caliburst already come with their original partners, Hot Rod, Kup, Triggerhappy, Misfire and Slugsinger respectively. The rest:

- Haywire (Doublecross): Blurr
- Pinpointer (Windblade): Crosshairs (no release)
- Spoilsport (Twin Twist): Sureshot (no release)
- Peacemaker (Topspin): Pointblank (no release)

And with that, I can finally remember which name goes with which partner! Yet I can't ID the actual toys on first sight. Derp

At the same time, Firebolt and Recoil are revealed to not be Cyberdroids or Nebulans of their own identity, but instead are Shao Shao Li and Sue (Marissa Faireborn's daughter) in Masterforce suits.

It remains to be seen what, if any, preexisting female human character Haywire will turn out to be.

[Kurona]

Eh, the accompanying fiction doesn't really matter. It's clear as day to anyone that these are meant to be representations of Firebolt and co., no matter what ridiculous comic made after the fact the toy comes with.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Who are the characters those targetmasters are actually supposed to go with?

Firebolt, Recoil, Blowpipe, Aimless and Caliburst already come with their original partners, Hot Rod, Kup, Triggerhappy, Misfire and Slugsinger respectively. The rest:

- Haywire (Doublecross): Blurr
- Pinpointer (Windblade): Crosshairs (no release)
- Spoilsport (Twin Twist): Sureshot (no release)
- Peacemaker (Topspin): Pointblank (no release)

And with that, I can finally remember which name goes with which partner! Yet I can't ID the actual toys on first sight. Derp

At the same time, Firebolt and Recoil are revealed to not be Cyberdroids or Nebulans of their own identity, but instead are Shao Shao Li and Sue (Marissa Faireborn's daughter) in Masterforce suits.

It remains to be seen what, if any, preexisting female human character Haywire will turn out to be.

Are there any female Battle Beasts we know of?

[Sabrblade]

Eh, the accompanying fiction doesn't really matter. It's clear as day to anyone that these are meant to be representations of Firebolt and co., no matter what ridiculous comic made after the fact the toy comes with.

You could say the same about the Western fiction made for these Targetmasters back in 1987.

[Kurona]

Eh, the accompanying fiction doesn't really matter. It's clear as day to anyone that these are meant to be representations of Firebolt and co., no matter what ridiculous comic made after the fact the toy comes with.

You could say the same about the Western fiction made for these Targetmasters back in 1987.

Which was that they were individuals called Firebolt, Recoil and Haywire

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Eh, the accompanying fiction doesn't really matter. It's clear as day to anyone that these are meant to be representations of Firebolt and co., no matter what ridiculous comic made after the fact the toy comes with.

You could say the same about the Western fiction made for these Targetmasters back in 1987.

Which was that they were individuals called Firebolt, Recoil and Haywire

... who do not exist in Japanese G1 proper, aside from The Rebirth dub.

[Sabrblade]

Eh, the accompanying fiction doesn't really matter. It's clear as day to anyone that these are meant to be representations of Firebolt and co., no matter what ridiculous comic made after the fact the toy comes with.

You could say the same about the Western fiction made for these Targetmasters back in 1987.

Which was that they were individuals called Firebolt, Recoil and Haywire

... who do not exist in Japanese G1 proper, aside from The Rebirth dub.

The manga does still call them "Firebolt-type" and "Recoil-type" Targetmaster armor suits, though.

[Kurona]

I suppose at the end of the day it's like bringing Ginrai to American markets for the first time, then saying he's G1 Optimus Prime from Armada described as Ultra Magnus

[primalxconvoy]

Anyone got the Amazon Japan links for these legends figures?

[ScottyP]

And thus, Nightstick and Fracas were ever consigned to the hell between universes; never to return.

There are roughly 16 versions of Nightstick that have come out since 2008. I just threw that number out there, but it's surely not far off from reality!

[Kurona]

And thus, Nightstick and Fracas were ever consigned to the hell between universes; never to return.

There are roughly 16 versions of Nightstick that have come out since 2008. I just threw that number out there, but it's surely not far off from reality!

Then thank Primus he was consigned to the hell between universes; never to return.

[william-james88]

Thanks to fellow Seibertronian and Twincast/Podcast member Razorclaw0000 who found a tweet from @p2099 who posted some new images of LG-EX Greatshot and LG-EX Grand Maximus. The images are originally from Takara Tomy's Transformers website at tf.takaratomy.co.jp. Both are redecos/retools of Takara Tomy's Transformers Legends Sixshot and Fortress Maximus, both of which were released as part of Hasbro's Titans Return product line.

Both Autobots were originally Japanese exclusive characters that have yet to see a release of any form from Hasbro. Greatshot was originally a character and toy from Takara's exclusive Victory series in 1989 and Grand Maximus was originally from Takara's exclusive Masterforce series in 1988. You can view a massive gallery of Masterforce Grand Maximus right here on Seibertron.com.

LG-EX figures are usually show exclusive figures that do get carried by domestic collector shops. Due to this, LG-EX exclusives generally cost more than main line figures. It appears maybe the first 3,000 come with pretender shell, but it’s not easy to translate. If anyone out there is better at Japanese than us and can tell us what is written on these images, let us know in the forums or via our contact form.

Below are the images, which have been updated to be much larger images than what we originally posted.





And here's a pic of G1 Grand Maximus alongside his fellow Masterforce Cybertrons and Destrons!

[Kurona]

Huh.

Well Then.

Hecking awesome for people that want them! I guess the doors for Titan redecoes are finally open!

[Bounti76]

These look pretty sweet, especially Grand Brave Max. Makes me wonder, with Takara reviving the Encore line, if a reissue of the original Grand Max could happen at some point.

[Sabrblade]

Wowie kazowey!!!!