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News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:16 pm

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Like i said..."that was a horrible opinion" and thats my opinion... stop looking to start s**t.So Now opinions about opinions are rude? Please, come up with something more creditable. It's disrespect blown all over the place in these threads, dont lecture me

"That was a horrible opinion" comes across as rude.

You could have easily said, "I completely disagree." and sounded much nicer. You could also explain why you disagree. That always helps too.

by **G1OPT1MU5PR1M3** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:21 pm

Are you f**king serious right now?... Are you illustrating to me how i should talk now?,Even after I stated a few ago "dont lecture me"... So I'll tell you what, let me illustrate for you "rude"... STFU! Now moderate that.
Good day

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:57 pm

G1OPT1MU5PR1M3 wrote:Are you f**king serious right now?... Are you illustrating to me how i should talk now?,Even after I stated a few ago "dont lecture me"... So I'll tell you what, let me illustrate for you "rude"... STFU! Now moderate that.

This is absolutely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. This is your warning to be civil and cordial from now on.

News Credits: 1 · by **mesh** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:40 pm

.................ok so haven't posted on any of the threads in a very long, long, long time so haven't read any of the trash from above but i have to make a comment.

Those ankles......they look horrible! The figure from the waist up is absolutely stunning, but it seems to me that the legs became an after-thought due to the trailer transformation.

I would buy it but the legs throw me off completely. :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:54 pm

Cyberpath wrote:

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News Credits: 79 · by **Sigma Magnus** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:56 pm

Yeah, looks like a lot of the detail on Minerva's face is covered up by the paint. I expect it to look much better on the actual production samples.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:59 pm

The barely-visible mouth, the thin nature of the face largely due to the receded cheekbones... I can't help but think of this.

News Credits: 194 · by **RodimusConvoy13** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Kurona wrote:The barely-visible mouth, the thin nature of the face largely due to the receded cheekbones... I can't help but think of this.

Think of what?

News Credits: 372 · by **Cyberpath** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:03 pm

The grey prototype was rather nice, looks like a marble statue.

News Credits: 6 · by **Sarahthecutevixen** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Darn it Takatomy,Why do you tempt me so, I just bought Megatronia

before you ask i said Takatomy on purpose, I think it's a nice counterpart for hasblow, I mean taka means garbage

by **gothsaurus** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:09 pm

Wow. I think they did a nice job homaging both the toy and cartoon design in a nice hybrid sculpt. Bravo.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:20 pm

This seems a good time to bring this observation of mine up again: Legends Ginrai's feet (which, considering they were purposefully retooled for: A. hitching up and combining with Godbomber, B. A different look, and C. more articulation, are hardly an afterthought) actually [/i]are[/i] based on the original toy's, doing photo comparisons. They have the same basic shape, and a bit more molded detail. What's making them look off is that the trailer wheels and sides are at a different angle and placement compared to the original toy. Because, well, the toy is in fact a heavy retool of Combiner Wars Leader-class Ultra Magnus and thus has most of his transformation engineering. Ginrai is decidedly less afterthought than Powermaster Optimus as far as function goes, and I think the new feet look better for him too. The more G1-looking cab front pieces are nice too (PMOP's enormous grille and dinky windows just look silly, especially in comparison). Although he could still do with a few more 5mm ports.

As for Godbomber.. the poor guy's a victim of both aversion to partsforming and the mandate that Leader-class figures from TR/the corresponding Legends period Must Have A Base Mode. And possibly too much focus during design on him standing as an independent figure, but the other two factors are the main things to blame.

News Credits: 4 · by **Relic0037** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:57 pm

Kurona wrote:I'm completely a broken record at this point, but Ginrai's feet are just bad. They look so unnatural and almost ruins how amazing the rest of the figure is. It really comes to fore in these images though; sheesh, even Godbomber doesn't save it.

I think the design pays homage to both the original G1 figure and the character on Masterforce. The legs are much more stable than they look. But if you still don't like it, the :HASBRO:

version should still be available.

News Credits: 13 · by **grimdragon2001** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:24 pm

Black Hat wrote:I have to say, looking at Minerva...I'm kinda not sure. The "robot" mode looks fine, but the head mode, even with the allowances made for the prototype paint, looks...off somehow. I will say if I get any version of Ginrai it'll probably be this boxset, but I'm actually tempted to just get a Nightbeat and customize it into Minerva, either by using the base faceplate and removing the face portion (and sculpting a replacement) or replacing the faceplate altogether with one off Shapeways.

If you are going to customize an existing face, id go with Ptero. it works very well for Minerva, though i did trim the chin a little on mine

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:33 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,

No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!

Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:23 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,
No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!
Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.

You're right, my bad :HEADHURTS:

I think I was thrown off by the pic heads being swapped in position compared to the upright forms. That and misremembering Cab/Lug as also being red.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:04 am

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Looking at Minerva.. Thank goodness they retooled away the stupid growly face from Nightbeat,
No they didn't. It's a brand new Titan Master/Headmaster mold.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:but ye gods does she need some red paint! Her armor is completely the wrong color! I was hoping those earlier photos showing her were a test scheme that would be fixed for the final product, but it looks like they're being dumb and sticking with it! Bad Takara!
Minerva... is the red one. Cab is the white one, with the brown-skinned chin.

You're right, my bad I think I was thrown off by the pic heads being swapped in position compared to the upright forms. That and misremembering Cab/Lug as also being red.

Maybe it's because when they're bonded with their transtectors they switch colors? In other words:

Minerva (human): red
Minerva (robot): white

Cab (human): white
Cab (robot): red

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:44 am

Could be part of it.

As for my other mistake, I was assuming Minerva would be a (hopefully) retooled and recolored Nightbeat because Shuta Go/GoShooter was a straight-up recolor of "Loudmouth",

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 11:42 am

Overcracker wrote:PMOP can already do that:

I'm pretty sure Ginrai can do the same.

I came back to double-check this pic... and it looks like Photobucket is even more useless now.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:43 pm

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Could be part of it.

As for my other mistake, I was assuming Minerva would be a (hopefully) retooled and recolored Nightbeat because Shuta Go/GoShooter was a straight-up recolor of "Loudmouth",

In a sense she is, well the Legends Universe native version called Nightbeat is. Funnily enough, this plays both into Minerva being a Nightbeat redeco (or vice-versa), and Minerva getting a Nightbeat-colored release as a mail-away.

by **Quint** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 6:24 pm

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Kurona wrote:The barely-visible mouth, the thin nature of the face largely due to the receded cheekbones... I can't help but think of this.

Think of what?

Alien Arse Face, obviously.

News Credits: 79 · by **Sigma Magnus** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:46 pm

Thanks to TakaraTomy Mall, we have a couple more new images of the LG-EX God Ginrai set! This time, the images show off the vehicle modes of both Super Ginrai and Godbomber, as well as their combined vehicle convoy mode, and how their Titan Masters sit in their cabs. Check out the images below, as well as the previous set of images we covered a few days ago, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

News Credits: 4530 · by **william-james88** » Sat Jul 01, 2017 9:21 pm

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:
Kurona wrote:The barely-visible mouth, the thin nature of the face largely due to the receded cheekbones... I can't help but think of this.

Think of what?

by **Ultra Markus** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 1:32 pm

oh so they also gave ginrai translucent cab windows #-o

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Sun Jul 02, 2017 2:28 pm

Ultra Markus wrote:oh so they also gave ginrai translucent cab windows

Yup, which aside from the chrome on Godbomber's sword, cannon tip and combined mode chest; seems to be the only changes made to the original releases.