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[Deadput]

Oh bewbs

Uh she forgot to turn off her airbags after a crash due to her "roadrage" right?

[Logan.]

Official 3rd mode? (Pics from Planet Iacon on Facebook)

[Kurona]

Oh hey, Road Rage! Not sure why she's there in-universe but it's a nice reference to how her MP has Twincast as an accessory.

[Sabrblade]

Oh hey, Road Rage! Not sure why she's there in-universe but it's a nice reference to how her MP has Twincast as an accessory.

The scene is a reference to Road Rage's MP bio in which she has placed Flip Sides on trial for suspicion of being a Decepticon spy, and Twincast is trying to defend Flip Sides. But it turned out that Flip Sides was guilty and Twincast had to learn to live with the fact that one of his friends and closest comrades was really a traitor.

[william-james88]

Though, for clarity's sake, this toy isn't being treated as Blaster's cartoon body proper, but is instead treated as an evolved form of that body, an upgrade from his Twincast body that he got in The Headmasters cartoon. A third form for Cartoon Blaster overall.

Yet the colours being so slavishly G1 indicate that Takara did cilour this in hope to also please collectors who want an accurate G1 Blaster in their collction. If he was truly a new form in every way, then there would be no need to mirror that deco to a T.

[Sabrblade]

Though, for clarity's sake, this toy isn't being treated as Blaster's cartoon body proper, but is instead treated as an evolved form of that body, an upgrade from his Twincast body that he got in The Headmasters cartoon. A third form for Cartoon Blaster overall.

Yet the colours being so slavishly G1 indicate that Takara did cilour this in hope to also please collectors who want an accurate G1 Blaster in their collction. If he was truly a new form in every way, then there would be no need to mirror that deco to a T.

I mean, it's a new form that allows Twincast to go back to being his old Blaster self, in which Takara is using to let him look as much like his old self from the cartoon as possible (within reason, of course, as they kept the toy-accurate shoulder designs intact and did integrate a ton of show-inaccurate blue joint pieces into the figure).

It a new form for the cartoon character but with some newness added to it, yet still tied more closely to the cartoon's lore than the Hasbro version.

[Kurona]

It's a weird thing Takara always does. They paint over details to make things more accurate... and then say in the comic it's a new body, so the painting over details then feels extremely pointless.

[Evil Eye]

Oh hey, Road Rage! Not sure why she's there in-universe but it's a nice reference to how her MP has Twincast as an accessory.

The scene is a reference to Road Rage's MP bio in which she has placed Flip Sides on trial for suspicion of being a Decepticon spy, and Twincast is trying to defend Flip Sides. But it turned out that Flip Sides was guilty and Twincast had to learn to live with the fact that one of his friends and closest comrades was really a traitor.

Speaking of which- Legends/MP Flip Sides when? I want my Decepticon infiltrator fembot.

[Logan.]

Wheelie

[Deadput]

So I guess that there is more of a connection to G1 Wheelie and Movie Wheelie eh?

[Logan.]

Thanks to Transformers Square One on Facebook: Scourge and Blurr with their G1 Targetmasters

[Emerje]

Though people originally thought that Blaster's Titan Master head was based on Perceptor, it actually seems to sculpted (not colored, but sculpted) more in homage to the headsculpt of Binaltech Asterisk Broad Blast.

Blaster's pack-in Legends comic seems to agree with this as there's a close up panel of Blaster's helmet-less head that also contains a thought bubble that flashes back to his Binaltech Asterisk body.

This is an extremely obvious (and pretty unbelievable) attempt by Takara Tomy to explain why the head looks this way in their continuity. If it was really intended to be Asterisk Broadblast it would look just like it, not vaguely like it if you squint. It was definitely originally designed to look like Perceptor.

Emerje

[william-james88]

Though people originally thought that Blaster's Titan Master head was based on Perceptor, it actually seems to sculpted (not colored, but sculpted) more in homage to the headsculpt of Binaltech Asterisk Broad Blast.

Blaster's pack-in Legends comic seems to agree with this as there's a close up panel of Blaster's helmet-less head that also contains a thought bubble that flashes back to his Binaltech Asterisk body.

This is an extremely obvious (and pretty unbelievable) attempt by Takara Tomy to explain why the head looks this way in their continuity. If it was really intended to be Asterisk Broadblast it would look just like it, not vaguely like it if you squint. It was definitely originally designed to look like Perceptor.

Emerje

That goes along with their entire philosophy about this toy, trying to repurpose it into something it wasnt concieved to be.

[Kurona]

I just kinda wish they'd actually made him Twincast.
Who wants to bet Twincast and Soundblaster will end up being E-Hobby or Takaratomy Mall exclusives?

[VanOscuro]

Someone want to translate this?

[fenrir72]

I just kinda wish they'd actually made him Twincast.
Who wants to bet Twincast and Soundblaster will end up being E-Hobby or Takaratomy Mall exclusives?

Aren't their "heads" already that? Twincast and Soundblaster?

[steals_your_goats]

I just kinda wish they'd actually made him Twincast.
Who wants to bet Twincast and Soundblaster will end up being E-Hobby or Takaratomy Mall exclusives?

Aren't their "heads" already that? Twincast and Soundblaster?

Yeah, but all they'd have to do is color the heads differently and call them Soundwave and blaster instead. Problem solved.

[Emerje]

I just kinda wish they'd actually made him Twincast.
Who wants to bet Twincast and Soundblaster will end up being E-Hobby or Takaratomy Mall exclusives?

Aren't their "heads" already that? Twincast and Soundblaster?

Yeah, but all they'd have to do is color the heads differently and call them Soundwave and blaster instead. Problem solved.

No, because they like to have a story to go with it. They'd have to be able to explain why Twincast and Soundblaster are suddenly "downgraded" back to Blaster and Soundwave again while their new bodies are made to look like Twincast and Soundblaster. It's a little too complicated to be worth explaining.

Emerje

[steals_your_goats]

I just kinda wish they'd actually made him Twincast.
Who wants to bet Twincast and Soundblaster will end up being E-Hobby or Takaratomy Mall exclusives?

Aren't their "heads" already that? Twincast and Soundblaster?

Yeah, but all they'd have to do is color the heads differently and call them Soundwave and blaster instead. Problem solved.

No, because they like to have a story to go with it. They'd have to be able to explain why Twincast and Soundblaster are suddenly "downgraded" back to Blaster and Soundwave again while their new bodies are made to look like Twincast and Soundblaster. It's a little too complicated to be worth explaining.

Emerje

If it was an Ehobby release wouldn't the fiction they create not interfere with the standard legends fiction? So they could do whatever they wanted/had to to justify the figures.

[Emerje]

If it was an Ehobby release wouldn't the fiction they create not interfere with the standard legends fiction? So they could do whatever they wanted/had to to justify the figures.

I wonder if it would be that easy? I mean, e-hobby fiction is separate from the Legends fiction, but then they'd have to come up with a second explanation for why Twincast and Soundblaster are suddenly Headmasters.

It's especially unlikely when all signs seem to point at their next figure being Mutant Soundwave. They seem content with doing Beast Wars story right now.

Takara Tomy Mall is focused on Unite Warriors still and I can't see them getting any Legends exclusives.

Emerje

[steals_your_goats]

If it was an Ehobby release wouldn't the fiction they create not interfere with the standard legends fiction? So they could do whatever they wanted/had to to justify the figures.

I wonder if it would be that easy? I mean, e-hobby fiction is separate from the Legends fiction, but then they'd have to come up with a second explanation for why Twincast and Soundblaster are suddenly Headmasters.

It's especially unlikely when all signs seem to point at their next figure being Mutant Soundwave. They seem content with doing Beast Wars story right now.

Takara Tomy Mall is focused on Unite Warriors still and I can't see them getting any Legends exclusives.

Emerje

Oh I'm not saying that it will happen, but I think it would be cool. As far as a quick explanation, couldn't they just go back to when blaster and Soundwave had that fight that destroyed each other? They could have it to where instead of being rebuilt completely they were only able to salvage enough to turn them into the headmaster then had transtectors built for them. I'm not sure how in line with g1 the Ehobby fiction is but if they have liberties with it I think my idea could work.

Truth be told though I would almost like these two more as a Hasbro box set. Someone on here (I think I was RAR?) mentioned about other possible box sets to go with the strength and speed sets that were based on the other Tech specs intelligence and firepower. What better bots for intelligence than redecos of blaster and Soundwave with one cassette each.

[Kurona]

G-guys, all I meant was for the leader figures to be in their Twincast and Soundblaster colours

[steals_your_goats]

I think we're all on the same page as far as mould use goes, what we're discussing is if Takara were to do these there's no doubt that some sort of fiction would have to accompany it. But that's why I brought up the Hasbro idea since there wouldn't necessarily need to be an explanation for them.

[Kurona]

I think we're all on the same page as far as mould use goes, what we're discussing is if Takara were to do these there's no doubt that some sort of fiction would have to accompany it. But that's why I brought up the Hasbro idea since there wouldn't necessarily need to be an explanation for them.

Eh, they'd come up with some excuse. It's not exactly a barrier or anything; Takara makes the toys and tells their comic guys to come up with something. Toys are always primary.

[william-james88]

I think we're all on the same page as far as mould use goes, what we're discussing is if Takara were to do these there's no doubt that some sort of fiction would have to accompany it. But that's why I brought up the Hasbro idea since there wouldn't necessarily need to be an explanation for them.

Eh, they'd come up with some excuse. It's not exactly a barrier or anything; Takara makes the toys and tells their comic guys to come up with something. Toys are always primary.

Yeah, money talks. Case in point, the Club wanted to make a buch of random redecos using the recent molds that were then newly available. But they were from different eras. What to do? Just lump em all together in another universe merging saga.



I still find it a crazy stretch that the Megatron to was a classics version of the movie voyager toy. Why not just say, "here's a cool megatron, have fun!" instead of creating a crazy story to fit him in. Anyways, just saying that the fiction is indeed secondary so its not a reason not to make a toy. Hell, SoundBlaster and Twincast could be reverse clones of the new Soundwave and Blaster bodies, inspired from their own bodies, in the fiction for all they care.