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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby RAR » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:45 pm

I'm not often one for Screen accuracy for the sake of and as a deco the Hasbro one is nice and quite similar to the toy too (just as Hasbro Galvatron is nice) but i'd use the Takara Galvatron and Astrotrain as my default versions personally.

I Just like the darker colours - probably as they remind me of the 1886 Movie.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby MemphisR56 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:41 pm

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RAR wrote:I Just like the darker colours - probably as they remind me of the 1886 Movie.


Dang,yo. This fandom is older than I thought :lol:


I think both versions have a lot of shortcomings in their mapping of an accurate decco, in all 3 modes. But this is really an opinion piece. Theres no winner here. It's toynostalgia vs. Sunbow goodness.

Personally, I always roll sunbow.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:21 pm

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I myself just don't care for the unattractive shade of pale gray used predominately on the Hasbro version.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:26 pm

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I just don't like how much dark gray Takara's has. I know that it's the point because cartoon accuracy, but it just doesn't look good to me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:28 pm

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Kurona wrote:I just don't like how much dark gray Takara's has. I know that it's the point because cartoon accuracy, but it just doesn't look good to me.

It looses quite a bit of the sculpted detail.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:35 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I just don't like how much dark gray Takara's has. I know that it's the point because cartoon accuracy, but it just doesn't look good to me.

It looses quite a bit of the sculpted detail.

That too. And the only piece of sculpted detail that Hasbro didn't do that I care about (the cockpit) was filled in... but it ends up looking extremely bad and way too saturated.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:35 pm

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At the very least, Takara's deco on the train mode is probably the "best" that train mode has so far looked on any version of that mold, even in spite of Takara's inability to give that mode a show-accurate deco.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:37 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:At the very least, Takara's deco on the train mode is probably the "best" that train mode has so far looked on any version of that mold, even in spite of Takara's inability to give that mode a show-accurate deco.

I do like the purple grill, but beyond that... I actually prefer Hasbro's overall.
There's not much in TR I'm preferring Takara on, actually. Blurr and Ginrai but that's about it...
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:43 pm

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I preordered my astrotrain today from amiami. I've found myself leaning more toward Takara releases lately and have all the leaders, fort max, wheelie, mindwipe and brainstorm on pre-order and Galvatron, blurr and scourge coming in the mail soon. I feel this line might end up pretty close to half and half for me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:11 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered my astrotrain today from amiami. I've found myself leaning more toward Takara releases lately and have all the leaders, fort max, wheelie, mindwipe and brainstorm on pre-order and Galvatron, blurr and scourge coming in the mail soon. I feel this line might end up pretty close to half and half for me.


And he looks mighty purdy right? :x
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby steals_your_goats » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:55 pm

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steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered my astrotrain today from amiami. I've found myself leaning more toward Takara releases lately and have all the leaders, fort max, wheelie, mindwipe and brainstorm on pre-order and Galvatron, blurr and scourge coming in the mail soon. I feel this line might end up pretty close to half and half for me.


And he looks mighty purdy right? :x

Not sure which one you're referring to but I'll just say yes because they all look great.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:43 pm

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fenrir72 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:I preordered my astrotrain today from amiami. I've found myself leaning more toward Takara releases lately and have all the leaders, fort max, wheelie, mindwipe and brainstorm on pre-order and Galvatron, blurr and scourge coming in the mail soon. I feel this line might end up pretty close to half and half for me.


And he looks mighty purdy right? :x

Not sure which one you're referring to but I'll just say yes because they all look great.


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Sep 10, 2016 9:41 am

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That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:06 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.

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Which is a bit of a shame; because I feel if Takara took even the slightest tiniest liberty with their cartoon accuracy it would improve the figure's look even more; much like how a few MPs like Optimus have little details the original figures/cartoon models didn't have.
Would have improved this figure, would have improved Drag Strip... ah well. Beggars can't be choosers
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Hellscream9999 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 10:23 am

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Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.
Which is a bit of a shame; because I feel if Takara took even the slightest tiniest liberty with their cartoon accuracy it would improve the figure's look even more; much like how a few MPs like Optimus have little details the original figures/cartoon models didn't have.
Would have improved this figure, would have improved Drag Strip... ah well. Beggars can't be choosers

It's really sad, as they're so well sculpted (just noticed, that sentinel has doors and walkways under his wing-backpack [which is weird as they remained covered at all times]) and well designed, if they painted them all like they did with Legends Blurr, they could be a masterpiece series unto themselves almost :(
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Sat Sep 10, 2016 11:06 am

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Yeah, I think I might spring for Legends Astrotrain at some point (read: once house situation is sorted). The extra detail on the vehicle modes and the overall robot mode look is just better, to me at least. Not because of the cartoon accuracy, I just like the colours better (on this mold anyway- I generally prefer toy colours Astrotrain). I might still paint the wheels though.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Microraptor » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:31 pm

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I'm happy they painted the windows. Other than that, I prefer Hasbro's more toy-accurate approach.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby william-james88 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 12:34 pm

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Hellscream9999 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.
Which is a bit of a shame; because I feel if Takara took even the slightest tiniest liberty with their cartoon accuracy it would improve the figure's look even more; much like how a few MPs like Optimus have little details the original figures/cartoon models didn't have.
Would have improved this figure, would have improved Drag Strip... ah well. Beggars can't be choosers

It's really sad, as they're so well sculpted (just noticed, that sentinel has doors and walkways under his wing-backpack [which is weird as they remained covered at all times]) and well designed, if they painted them all like they did with Legends Blurr, they could be a masterpiece series unto themselves almost :(

Yeah, I agree, and thus I find it too bad Takara is going for toon accuracy when this mold itself is far from anything like the show when it comes to alt modes.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 10, 2016 2:54 pm

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Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.
They did paint the train wheels. That whole piece on both sides of the train is molded gray plastic painted purple.

But it's not only cartoon-accurate, it's also toy-accurate, twice over:

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It's simply a standard for Astrotrain to have his train wheels be the same color as the part of locomotive body that they're attached to whenever he has a steam engine altmode.

The same even applies for when he turns into a black steam engine: His train wheels are black then as well.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:24 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.
They did paint the train wheels. That whole piece on both sides of the train is molded gray plastic painted purple.

But it's not only cartoon-accurate, it's also toy-accurate, twice over:

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It's simply a standard for Astrotrain to have his train wheels be the same color as the part of locomotive body that they're attached to whenever he has a steam engine altmode.

The same even applies for when he turns into a black steam engine: His train wheels are black then as well.

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Is it the lack of gray on the wheels or highlights on the "coupling rods" that's the issue? Wheels being gray would have been nice but it may break the pricing ceiling Takara was willing to work on.

Remember, if Takara goes bankrupt because of the extra paint, we all lose the option to acquire anime and/or G1 accurate (?)/homage versions of modern G1 TF remakes. :lol:

I do say, it was nice that the original G1 purple version had an extra white paint highlight on the "coupling rods" near the engineer cab which the black version copped out on that.

It ain't a deal breaker as far as I am concerned. This version will be mine :twisted:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:25 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:That Takara Astrotrain is a MAJORLY different from the Hasbro version. Might be worth the price.

Still, why the hell they STILL haven't painted the train's wheels?

Because it's cartoon accurate.
They did paint the train wheels. That whole piece on both sides of the train is molded gray plastic painted purple.

But it's not only cartoon-accurate, it's also toy-accurate, twice over:

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It's simply a standard for Astrotrain to have his train wheels be the same color as the part of locomotive body that they're attached to whenever he has a steam engine altmode.

The same even applies for when he turns into a black steam engine: His train wheels are black then as well.

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True, but Takara were still primarily going for cartoon accuracy. That's the reason they're painted purple; the original toy just so happens to be the same.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 10, 2016 3:47 pm

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Kurona wrote:True, but Takara were still primarily going for cartoon accuracy. That's the reason they're painted purple; the original toy just so happens to be the same.
Just pointing out additional precedents in case the "cartoon-accurate" reason isn't deemed acceptable enough by those inquiring about the wheels. ;)^
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:09 am

It's not completely show accurate, though, as there are no Decepticon symbols on the outside of his wings, which the cartoon model features.

I'm going to add those and paint (black/silver?) detailing on the wheels to make the figure look decent. The inappropriate/silly headmaster feature will be the next to go, too. Then the figure will look acceptable.
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