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[Evil Eye]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

It's not so much that people are being prudish. Those pictures from Yuki, and Kiss Players in general, are just objectively gross.

I can understand saying that kiss players was gross, but how are these pictures gross? The girls are sitting in ultra magnus's chest. Would it be gross if anything that wasn't the minumus mold was put in there? I genuinely don't see the problem with these pictures besides people have knee jerk reaction to kiss play.

It's the way the girls are sitting. They look like they're squatting over the toilet. It's gross.

You must sit on toilets pretty funny...

[SW's SilverHammer]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

It's not so much that people are being prudish. Those pictures from Yuki, and Kiss Players in general, are just objectively gross.

I can understand saying that kiss players was gross, but how are these pictures gross? The girls are sitting in ultra magnus's chest. Would it be gross if anything that wasn't the minumus mold was put in there? I genuinely don't see the problem with these pictures besides people have knee jerk reaction to kiss play.

It's the way the girls are sitting. They look like they're squatting over the toilet. It's gross.

That's the way you chose to interpret the girls posture. They're actually meant to look like they're sitting over the edge of something, and are bracing themselves against a giant robot.

[Evil Eye]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

It's not so much that people are being prudish. Those pictures from Yuki, and Kiss Players in general, are just objectively gross.

I can understand saying that kiss players was gross, but how are these pictures gross? The girls are sitting in ultra magnus's chest. Would it be gross if anything that wasn't the minumus mold was put in there? I genuinely don't see the problem with these pictures besides people have knee jerk reaction to kiss play.

It's the way the girls are sitting. They look like they're squatting over the toilet. It's gross.

That's the way you chose to interpret the girls posture. They're actually meant to look like they're sitting over the edge of something, and are bracing themselves against a giant robot.

"FORWARD, MY MINION!"

"Atari, there's no need to shout."

"SILENCE, WORM!"

[Optimizzy]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

Gosh. There are so many potential rebuttals to that. Anyway. I stated my opinion. Not going to argue to justify it.

If you aren't going to argue to justify it then don't be surprised when nobody takes it seriously. Either put up or shut up. Preferably the latter.

I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about really. I mean yes, Kiss Players was creepy as all f*ck, but these pictures? It's just the old Kiss Players driver figures sitting in Magnus. Nothing suspect or suggestive or creepy about it, just "LOL, cute girls driving the Magnus armour!". Yuki probably had the toys on hand and thought "hey, these little figurines are perfectly scaled to be "driving" Ultra Magnus! That'd make for a funny pic!". I think all these comments about how the pics are "creepy" shows more of the desire to be offended of some of our board members than any lewd intent by Yuki.

But then I suppose I'm not the best person to comment on these things as I firmly believe that anyone who is honestly "offended" by anything needs taking out the back and shooting.

and here lies the problem. In my post I said did not attack anyone, nor did I say, "you are dumb for liking this." I said that I am tired of these kinds of photos. You are inferring so much with what I said that it is way too defensive.

But ok. Here goes.

If people are still irritated by KISS PLay they have a right to be. They do not HAVE to "get over" it. It was a stupid part of the fandom. It should never have been greenlit and the idea that it keeps popping up is a sign of the maturity level of the guy who took the photos. I DO NOT want to offend anyone, and honestly, I think that's the litmus test. If you look at the words I type and are offended then get a grip. If you really have to reply to my two sentences with two paragraphs then man, get over yourself.

The above is OPINION. I'm sure there are guys on here that see no problem with KISS Play or these photos. I have NO problem with them. They like it, that is cool. They are free to like it. They are free to say "I like this." Just as I am free to say " I don't like this."

But that guy looks at my post and says "that's just his opinion." And he is right. My opinion does not invalidate anyone else's. It is just my opinion.

And if I feel like posting it, Damnit I will. If I don't want to go over the tired and often cited reasons why I feel that way, then I don't have to.

This is not a scientific process, nor a court of law. I do not have to justify or provide proof to my opinions. They are based on feeling. If I eat pistachio Ice Cream and don't like it, do I have to explain why?

Come on guys. Let's not pick everyone's opinion to death just because you disagree.

[Evil Eye]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

Gosh. There are so many potential rebuttals to that. Anyway. I stated my opinion. Not going to argue to justify it.

If you aren't going to argue to justify it then don't be surprised when nobody takes it seriously. Either put up or shut up. Preferably the latter.

I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about really. I mean yes, Kiss Players was creepy as all f*ck, but these pictures? It's just the old Kiss Players driver figures sitting in Magnus. Nothing suspect or suggestive or creepy about it, just "LOL, cute girls driving the Magnus armour!". Yuki probably had the toys on hand and thought "hey, these little figurines are perfectly scaled to be "driving" Ultra Magnus! That'd make for a funny pic!". I think all these comments about how the pics are "creepy" shows more of the desire to be offended of some of our board members than any lewd intent by Yuki.

But then I suppose I'm not the best person to comment on these things as I firmly believe that anyone who is honestly "offended" by anything needs taking out the back and shooting.

and here lies the problem. In my post I said did not attack anyone, nor did I say, "you are dumb for liking this." I said that I am tired of these kinds of photos. You are inferring so much with what I said that it is way too defensive.

And this is a free forum and we have the right to tell you that your opinion is garbage. You of course have the right to tell me I'm wrong for thinking that, of course, because that's how free speech works.

So you're tired of seeing these kinds of photos yet you give no real justification for why beyond "Bawww kiss players!". Can you not see why that would be seen as confrontational and pretty damn stupid?

But ok. Here goes.

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

If people are still irritated by KISS PLay they have a right to be. They do not HAVE to "get over" it.

They don't HAVE to but they probably should and can expect ridicule if they don't. It's been, what, 9 years now? That's more than enough time to get over something. Kiss Players didn't rape you or murder your family. You've probably never even read it.

It was a stupid part of the fandom. It should never have been greenlit and the idea that it keeps popping up is a sign of the maturity level of the guy who likes it.

I don't think "making a brief visual gag with some appropriately sized figures" equates to actively endorsing Kiss Players, nor does it say anything about the "maturity level" of TFYuki.

I DO NOT want to offend anyone, and honestly, I think that's the litmus test. If you look at the words I type and are offended then get a grip. If you really have to reply to my two sentences with two paragraphs then man, get over yourself.

I am not "offended". Being offended is for lesser, weaker people. Nevertheless I find it ironic that you tell me I'm overreacting for taking the time to post two paragraphs in response to your two sentences when said two sentences were posted in response to a harmless picture.

The above is OPINION. I'm sure there are guys on here that see no problem with KISS Play or these photos. I have NO problem with them. They like it, that is cool. They are free to like it. They are free to say "I like this." Just as I am free to say " I don't like this."

Maybe, but that doesn't deny them their right to say "you're an idiot" for getting overly worked up about a harmless image.

But that guy looks at my post and says "that's just his opinion." And he is right. My opinion does not invalidate anyone else's. It is just my opinion.

You also have an awfully obnoxious way of voicing said opinion.

And if I feel like posting it, Damnit I will. If I don't want to go over the tired and often cited reasons why I feel that way, then I don't have to.

Then once again, expect ridicule. If you're going to make a loaded statement like "Ugh I'm so tired of these images" then you'd better be ready to back it up.

This is not a scientific process, nor a court of law. I do not have to justify or provide proof to my opinions. They are based on feeling. If I eat pistachio Ice Cream and don't like it, do I have to explain why?

Now you're just repeating yourself and making me do the same, which is something I hate.

Come on guys. Let's not pick everyone's opinion to death just because you disagree.

F*ck that noise. If you can't handle criticism then don't make loaded statements.

[Rated X]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

[-Kanrabat-]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

Amen brother.

I, for one, wouldn't mind having a little girl inside my chest.





I'll be going now...

[Evil Eye]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

Amen brother.

I, for one, wouldn't mind having a little girl inside my chest.





I'll be going now...

*Atari Hitotonari bursts out of Kanrabat's chest in a shower of blood and bone*

"I AM MADE FLESH"

[Hellscream9999]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

Amen brother.

I, for one, wouldn't mind having a little girl inside my chest.





I'll be going now...

*Atari Hitotonari bursts out of Kanrabat's chest in a shower of blood and bone*

"I AM MADE FLESH"

So just another Wednesday then

[Shuttershock]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

Amen brother.

I, for one, wouldn't mind having a little girl inside my chest.





I'll be going now...

*Atari Hitotonari bursts out of Kanrabat's chest in a shower of blood and bone*

"I AM MADE FLESH"

And then does the MJ Frog dance out the door.

[munkimus prime]

Is it just me or do things get really weird in here when Kiss Players get mentioned?. Nice pictures that are getting me excited to own these toys.

[Optimizzy]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

Gosh. There are so many potential rebuttals to that. Anyway. I stated my opinion. Not going to argue to justify it.

If you aren't going to argue to justify it then don't be surprised when nobody takes it seriously. Either put up or shut up. Preferably the latter.

I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about really. I mean yes, Kiss Players was creepy as all f*ck, but these pictures? It's just the old Kiss Players driver figures sitting in Magnus. Nothing suspect or suggestive or creepy about it, just "LOL, cute girls driving the Magnus armour!". Yuki probably had the toys on hand and thought "hey, these little figurines are perfectly scaled to be "driving" Ultra Magnus! That'd make for a funny pic!". I think all these comments about how the pics are "creepy" shows more of the desire to be offended of some of our board members than any lewd intent by Yuki.

But then I suppose I'm not the best person to comment on these things as I firmly believe that anyone who is honestly "offended" by anything needs taking out the back and shooting.

and here lies the problem. In my post I said did not attack anyone, nor did I say, "you are dumb for liking this." I said that I am tired of these kinds of photos. You are inferring so much with what I said that it is way too defensive.

And this is a free forum and we have the right to tell you that your opinion is garbage. You of course have the right to tell me I'm wrong for thinking that, of course, because that's how free speech works.

So you're tired of seeing these kinds of photos yet you give no real justification for why beyond "Bawww kiss players!". Can you not see why that would be seen as confrontational and pretty damn stupid?

But ok. Here goes.

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

If people are still irritated by KISS PLay they have a right to be. They do not HAVE to "get over" it.

They don't HAVE to but they probably should and can expect ridicule if they don't. It's been, what, 9 years now? That's more than enough time to get over something. Kiss Players didn't rape you or murder your family. You've probably never even read it.

It was a stupid part of the fandom. It should never have been greenlit and the idea that it keeps popping up is a sign of the maturity level of the guy who likes it.

I don't think "making a brief visual gag with some appropriately sized figures" equates to actively endorsing Kiss Players, nor does it say anything about the "maturity level" of TFYuki.

I DO NOT want to offend anyone, and honestly, I think that's the litmus test. If you look at the words I type and are offended then get a grip. If you really have to reply to my two sentences with two paragraphs then man, get over yourself.

I am not "offended". Being offended is for lesser, weaker people. Nevertheless I find it ironic that you tell me I'm overreacting for taking the time to post two paragraphs in response to your two sentences when said two sentences were posted in response to a harmless picture.

The above is OPINION. I'm sure there are guys on here that see no problem with KISS Play or these photos. I have NO problem with them. They like it, that is cool. They are free to like it. They are free to say "I like this." Just as I am free to say " I don't like this."

Maybe, but that doesn't deny them their right to say "you're an idiot" for getting overly worked up about a harmless image.

But that guy looks at my post and says "that's just his opinion." And he is right. My opinion does not invalidate anyone else's. It is just my opinion.

You also have an awfully obnoxious way of voicing said opinion.

And if I feel like posting it, Damnit I will. If I don't want to go over the tired and often cited reasons why I feel that way, then I don't have to.

Then once again, expect ridicule. If you're going to make a loaded statement like "Ugh I'm so tired of these images" then you'd better be ready to back it up.

This is not a scientific process, nor a court of law. I do not have to justify or provide proof to my opinions. They are based on feeling. If I eat pistachio Ice Cream and don't like it, do I have to explain why?

Now you're just repeating yourself and making me do the same, which is something I hate.

Come on guys. Let's not pick everyone's opinion to death just because you disagree.

F*ck that noise. If you can't handle criticism then don't make loaded statements.

Wow. I completely change my opinion. You're insults have convinced me like no reasonable argument could. I should make sure to include several pages of psychological assessment with my opinions to justify them. Because otherwise, they are garbage and not worth your time. I do apologize. I did not realize I was speaking to someone of such mastery. I'm not so used to being so thoroughly dismantled by such a superior opponent.

[Evil Eye]

Seriously? We're almost a decade removed from kiss play and there are still pearl clutching reactions to it. Get over it.

Gosh. There are so many potential rebuttals to that. Anyway. I stated my opinion. Not going to argue to justify it.

If you aren't going to argue to justify it then don't be surprised when nobody takes it seriously. Either put up or shut up. Preferably the latter.

I'm not sure what everyone's complaining about really. I mean yes, Kiss Players was creepy as all f*ck, but these pictures? It's just the old Kiss Players driver figures sitting in Magnus. Nothing suspect or suggestive or creepy about it, just "LOL, cute girls driving the Magnus armour!". Yuki probably had the toys on hand and thought "hey, these little figurines are perfectly scaled to be "driving" Ultra Magnus! That'd make for a funny pic!". I think all these comments about how the pics are "creepy" shows more of the desire to be offended of some of our board members than any lewd intent by Yuki.

But then I suppose I'm not the best person to comment on these things as I firmly believe that anyone who is honestly "offended" by anything needs taking out the back and shooting.

and here lies the problem. In my post I said did not attack anyone, nor did I say, "you are dumb for liking this." I said that I am tired of these kinds of photos. You are inferring so much with what I said that it is way too defensive.

And this is a free forum and we have the right to tell you that your opinion is garbage. You of course have the right to tell me I'm wrong for thinking that, of course, because that's how free speech works.

So you're tired of seeing these kinds of photos yet you give no real justification for why beyond "Bawww kiss players!". Can you not see why that would be seen as confrontational and pretty damn stupid?

But ok. Here goes.

Oh boy, this is gonna be fun.

If people are still irritated by KISS PLay they have a right to be. They do not HAVE to "get over" it.

They don't HAVE to but they probably should and can expect ridicule if they don't. It's been, what, 9 years now? That's more than enough time to get over something. Kiss Players didn't rape you or murder your family. You've probably never even read it.

It was a stupid part of the fandom. It should never have been greenlit and the idea that it keeps popping up is a sign of the maturity level of the guy who likes it.

I don't think "making a brief visual gag with some appropriately sized figures" equates to actively endorsing Kiss Players, nor does it say anything about the "maturity level" of TFYuki.

I DO NOT want to offend anyone, and honestly, I think that's the litmus test. If you look at the words I type and are offended then get a grip. If you really have to reply to my two sentences with two paragraphs then man, get over yourself.

I am not "offended". Being offended is for lesser, weaker people. Nevertheless I find it ironic that you tell me I'm overreacting for taking the time to post two paragraphs in response to your two sentences when said two sentences were posted in response to a harmless picture.

The above is OPINION. I'm sure there are guys on here that see no problem with KISS Play or these photos. I have NO problem with them. They like it, that is cool. They are free to like it. They are free to say "I like this." Just as I am free to say " I don't like this."

Maybe, but that doesn't deny them their right to say "you're an idiot" for getting overly worked up about a harmless image.

But that guy looks at my post and says "that's just his opinion." And he is right. My opinion does not invalidate anyone else's. It is just my opinion.

You also have an awfully obnoxious way of voicing said opinion.

And if I feel like posting it, Damnit I will. If I don't want to go over the tired and often cited reasons why I feel that way, then I don't have to.

Then once again, expect ridicule. If you're going to make a loaded statement like "Ugh I'm so tired of these images" then you'd better be ready to back it up.

This is not a scientific process, nor a court of law. I do not have to justify or provide proof to my opinions. They are based on feeling. If I eat pistachio Ice Cream and don't like it, do I have to explain why?

Now you're just repeating yourself and making me do the same, which is something I hate.

Come on guys. Let's not pick everyone's opinion to death just because you disagree.

F*ck that noise. If you can't handle criticism then don't make loaded statements.

Wow. I completely change my opinion. You're insults have convinced me like no reasonable argument could. I should make sure to include several pages of psychological assessment with my opinions to justify them. Because otherwise, they are garbage and not worth your time. I do apologize. I did not realize I was speaking to someone of such mastery. I'm not so used to being so thoroughly dismantled by such a superior opponent.

And don't you forget it baby.

[-Kanrabat-]

Before the Burn get felt, I'll just point out that I do own Kissplayers Autorooper Atari. The Alternator Jazz mold is awesome and it's fun to have a sexy minifig in scale with my TF. Plus, I had it at a good price too!

I love some pantyshots with my TFs and I'm not ashamed to say it!

Let's close this off-topic arc with some PANTYSHOT!

...Literally.

(Are you weeaboo enough to get this reference?)

[Optimizzy]

Oh G*D*ammit I AM!

[Deadput]

All these pictures do is make me want a two pack of Autotroopers one a remold of Combiner Wars Prowl/Streetwise with a new head and the second a remold of First Aid with a new head.


In homage to both Alternators/Kissplayer police car Autotrooper and Animated van/truck Autorooper the two pack could also come with an Atari figure.




A some what ok digibash on the First Aid remold made by me.

[Hellscream9999]

All these pictures do is make me want a two pack of Autotroopers one a remold of Combiner Wars Prowl/Streetwise with a new head and the second a remold of First Aid with a new head.


In homage to both Alternators/Kissplayer police car Autotrooper and Animated van/truck Autorooper the two pack could also come with an Atari figure.




A some what ok digibash on the First Aid remold made by me.

That's really awesome; yet another figure I would've enjoyed more in lieu of the '84 teams

[fenrir72]

KISSPlayer figure ranking for me

#1 Atari(so adorable with the barf bag) and wtF is Kremzeek doing in her artwork.
#2 Marissa (Surfboard)
#3 Shaoshao comes with some Siu Pao

Own all three, too bad I missed the "black" Atari'scream version. Really nice craftsmanship and detail despite their size.

Quite coincidental nice that Marrissa can sit in UM, "cooties" not withstanding, I'm questioning Marissa's loyalties.......I thought she was an Optimus loyalist? And her pose after swapping her legs makes her an ideal pilot for the "pick up" Optimus. Too bad MP series can't carry the pilots anymore (except MP Optimus and SS)

[fenrir72]

Before the Burn get felt, I'll just point out that I do own Kissplayers Autorooper Atari. The Alternator Jazz mold is awesome and it's fun to have a sexy minifig in scale with my TF. Plus, I had it at a good price too!

I love some pantyshots with my TFs and I'm not ashamed to say it!

Let's close this off-topic arc with some PANTYSHOT!

...Literally.

(Are you weeaboo enough to get this reference?)

Panty and Stocking?

[-Kanrabat-]

Panty and Stocking?

Yes, and for those that are not in the know, she's a fallen angel and when she wanna fight, she take off her panties and change them into a bad-ass spirit-gun! Making this litteral "panty-shots"!

[SW's SilverHammer]

Panty and Stocking?

Yes, and for those that are not in the know, she's a fallen angel and when she wanna fight, she take off her panties and change them into a bad-ass spirit-gun! Making this litteral "panty-shots"!

Riddle me this batman, why is "This Thing Sucks Dick" an insult? Panty Anarchy is proud in what she does.

[Sabrblade]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

You really don't have that good an understanding of the Kiss Players fiction (which was more of a radio series than a comic, btw) and all the inherently gross content it contained. "Cute girls that like to kiss" is an enormous understatement and misconception of what that series entailed. It was virtually pornographic.

[Shuttershock]

I've never read kiss players and dont intend to because I dont get into reading comics. But what creeps me out is so many men who are against cute girls who like to kiss. Thats creepy to me. Sure its just a cartoon drawing, but it portrays male fantasies. Last time I checked, I was a man, so Im down with it.

You really don't have that good an understanding of the Kiss Players fiction (which was more of a radio series than a comic, btw) and all the inherently gross content it contained. "Cute girls that like to kiss" is an enormous understatement and misconception of what that series entailed. It was virtually pornographic.

It's hard to tell with X anymore.

[Wolfman Jake]

You really don't have that good an understanding of the Kiss Players fiction (which was more of a radio series than a comic, btw) and all the inherently gross content it contained. "Cute girls that like to kiss" is an enormous understatement and misconception of what that series entailed. It was virtually pornographic.

So much this. You can try and pretend all you want that Kiss Players, or these pics that Yuki took, are completely innocent. You can hide your head in the sand all you want to justify giving something incredibly squicky a pass, but at the end of the day, Kiss Players is perverted, and in all honesty, Yuki might be too. Those pics with Magnus are messed up.

[fenrir72]

You really don't have that good an understanding of the Kiss Players fiction (which was more of a radio series than a comic, btw) and all the inherently gross content it contained. "Cute girls that like to kiss" is an enormous understatement and misconception of what that series entailed. It was virtually pornographic.

So much this. You can try and pretend all you want that Kiss Players, or these pics that Yuki took, are completely innocent. You can hide your head in the sand all you want to justify giving something incredibly squicky a pass, but at the end of the day, Kiss Players is perverted, and in all honesty, Yuki might be too. Those pics with Magnus are messed up.

TT back then really skirted the line. Kind of like To Love Ru and QB (especially the former in manga). As for Yuki being a pevert, did you take a look at his mug? He's what you would fit a stereotype anime pervert/stalker character design . And what makes it even good? He draws a mean looking realistic poseable G1 Optimus Prime.So perves are really talented .......give credit where it is due of course.

Just take a look at the Kiss Players Position episode when Optimus and Goldbug rescued the "Kiss Players" from the Quints.