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[D-Maximal_Primal]

Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks!

[Shockwave7]

They'll be neat when fully done, I think. But they have their flaws, no doubt about it.

Nightbird retains the problem of the Arcee mold, namely, her 'child birthing' hips.

Slipstream looks... very chipper for a fem Con.

And I'm not sure why they're replacing Blackarachnia's fangs with 'scoops'. The only reason would be that the designers are guys, and they wanted to see the TFA BA mold with more pronounced mommy-bags....

I don't get why this is a problem for you.. or anyone, I've heard the complaint before. Why? what are you expecting?

Better proportions. The manufacturers have proved that they CAN retool a design when they want to in order to improve aesthetics. They could have done something to narrow the hips a smidgen on the arcee mold, but they didn't, and once it's set in resin, they pretty much give up on fixing any flaws (which is why they won't fix Lockdown's hands for example).

Arcee's hips just look off to me. Back in the days of the Renaissance, that look was popular for women, as evidenced by a lot of the art. They preferred 'voluptuous' women (i.e., 'chubby'). And to be fair - some folks still like that look. I call it a flaw, because I don't like the look. To my eye, the hips just seem out of proportion with the rest of the body. The shins, the arms, the chest and head have a very narrow, athletic look to them, which is in keeping with how Arcee is usually drawn in the comics and such. But then, kablammo - the hips/thighs flare out all voluptuous and interrupt the aesthetics.

Again, that seems to be fine for most folks and they see no problem with it. Not so with me.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

Just imagine if THAT is what Blackarachnia's bust looked like. XD

[Shockwave7]

Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks!

They find a species that has scoop shaped pedipalps instead of very obvious fangs, and go with that? It still looks like they're trying to make her a constructicon digger - or maybe a worker at Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream parlor.

Spiders need fangs to look fearsome, not scoops

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Do I need to bring up that close-up of a spider's pedipalps?

Well then, that really works. Never seen that kind of pic before, so yeah, it works! thanks!

They find a species that has scoop shaped pedipalps instead of very obvious fangs, and go with that? It still looks like they're trying to make her a constructicon digger - or maybe a worker at Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream parlor.

Spiders need fangs to look fearsome, not scoops

Still looks scary!

[william-james88]

I never really looked into the original mold, but man! That is an unfortunate placing of the chest armor. Just saying, it's kinda funny really

At least it looks hot in robot mode.

Can't wait to see the painted versions of these girls!

Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly!

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly!

Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD

[Evil Eye]

Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly!

Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD

Do link us, that sounds hilarious.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Oh man, what I wouldnt do to be 15 again. Enjoy it while it lasts kid!

Hey, you aren't too far gone! Don't start feeling old yet!
And it's perfectly acceptable to call a bot "hot". How many humans have fallen for a bot or a con in the 31 years? I personally find the new Arcee really attractive. Of course I may be biased: Her body type matches my girlfriends almost perfectly!

Lol I'll make a topic about that. XD

Do link us, that sounds hilarious.

Here it is!

who-is-the-hottest-or-most-attractive-transformer-you-can-think-of--p1698789.php#p1698789

[munkimus prime]

I'm not really in to Nightbird since she just a character from one episode of G1 so I have no attachment to that character. Slipstream and Blackarachnia are both definite purchases unless I only had enough to get one then that would be Blackarachnia since I've been wanting a new version of her for ages.

[fenrir72]

They'll be neat when fully done, I think. But they have their flaws, no doubt about it.

Nightbird retains the problem of the Arcee mold, namely, her 'child birthing' hips.

Slipstream looks... very chipper for a fem Con.

And I'm not sure why they're replacing Blackarachnia's fangs with 'scoops'. The only reason would be that the designers are guys, and they wanted to see the TFA BA mold with more pronounced mommy-bags....

I don't get why this is a problem for you.. or anyone, I've heard the complaint before. Why? what are you expecting?

Better proportions. The manufacturers have proved that they CAN retool a design when they want to in order to improve aesthetics. They could have done something to narrow the hips a smidgen on the arcee mold, but they didn't, and once it's set in resin, they pretty much give up on fixing any flaws (which is why they won't fix Lockdown's hands for example).

Arcee's hips just look off to me. Back in the days of the Renaissance, that look was popular for women, as evidenced by a lot of the art. They preferred 'voluptuous' women (i.e., 'chubby'). And to be fair - some folks still like that look. I call it a flaw, because I don't like the look. To my eye, the hips just seem out of proportion with the rest of the body. The shins, the arms, the chest and head have a very narrow, athletic look to them, which is in keeping with how Arcee is usually drawn in the comics and such. But then, kablammo - the hips/thighs flare out all voluptuous and interrupt the aesthetics.

Again, that seems to be fine for most folks and they see no problem with it. Not so with me.

To each his/her own preference I guess. Some want big oppai while others petanko.

2 points you raised. 1st, Tomy probably wanted to get more bang out of the mold without having to invest additional moolah to alter the basemold. Keeping the old order of "not breaking the bank".This seems to be the recent practice of TT. Conservative releasing of figures. Remember the Legend 3 fembots had such a limited release? Hb could probably offset cost with the T-cracker mold by selling him in mass quantities.

2nd, the birthing hips. I believe the inner thigh gives the mold an optical illusion at some angle of it looking very drumstick like (as in KFC drumstick). And, well imo it fits the mold perfectly. Try photoshoping a pic of her shaving off the thigh and compare. I bet it would damage the proportional visage.

[fenrir72]

https://twitter.com/TFYUKI/status/610656750690156546

It's in black!

[Va'al]

Fellow Seibertronian fenrir72 has spotted a new addition on Hisashi Yuki's Twitter feed, showing once again the Tokyo Toy Show Takara Tomy exclusive Legends Black Convoy and Armada Megatron (the Japanese repaints of Reveal the Shield G2 Laser Prime and Combiner Wars Leader Armada Megatron) - but this time, we also get to see the exclusive black boxes the figures come packaged in, plus a brief glimpse at the instruction booklet. Check them out below!

[-Kanrabat-]

These would be soooooo worth it to keep sealed!

[Heckfire]

Dammit, I HAVE the OTFCC Scourge, and I STILL want this guy.

CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!

[prjkt]

Dammit, I HAVE the OTFCC Scourge, and I STILL want this guy.

CURSE YOU, OBSESSIVE URGE TO HAVE ALL NEMESIS PRIMES!!

This guy'll be my substitute for the TFCC version, (surprisingly) much cheaper

Armada Megatron just keeps looking better and better

[Sabrblade]

Hey look, on the packaging and booklet. They're actually calling him "BLACK CONVOY" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.

However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Hey look, on the packaging. They're actually calling him "Black Convoy" in English text instead of "Scourge". Previous Legends toys used the Hasbro names in English with the original Takara names in Japanese, but here, the original Takara name is used in both Japanese and English.

Interesting. Good spotting!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.

Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...

[Sabrblade]

However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.

Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...

There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used is for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was , which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that " = Decepticon"

[ScottyP]

I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

However, something else of notice is on the booklet. Despite having the correct Combatron insigina, and despite the RID 2001 English dub calling him a "Decepticon", the name of his faction is written in English here as "PREDACON". Whoops.

Well, how would you call a Destronger in English using familiar and available names? There are no Decepticons in Car Robots, so...

There's no "Predacons" in Car Robots either (only Cybertrons, Destrongers, and Combatrons), so nothing was stopping them from using "Decepticon" just as they used "Predacon". Besides, the insignia used is for "Combatron". The Destronger insignia was , which was not used for this toy. So they could have easily gotten away with claiming that " = Decepticon"

Except that "Combatron" was treated more as a sub-group in the toyline: the box for CR Black Convoy still says "Destronger" on the side. And apparently because of the symbol used, they equated the Japanese Destronger with the US Predacons and therefore, through lack of an actual US name for the Combatron symbol (maybe Renegade?), they named Black Convoy (not Scourge) a Predacon too. Woops.

[Sabrblade]

I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.

For reference:

[megatronus]

I want to like that Armada Megatron, but I just don't. Something's way off about it in my mind's eye, even more so than the Hasbro one. The waist feels too purple, but it's also possible I'm not remembering the show model correctly.

For reference:

Yea, I'm not seeing the issue. I really like this darker, more brooding deco, but that's just me.