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[fenrir72]

Think the dark red Burgandy thighs look weird, Prefer cartoon white thighs.

Don't see what the big fuss is all about with recoloring Ambus into Alpha Trion colors. Doubt anyone is buying this toy solely for the minicon class toy.

Think that Titanian Saint is a bad example of a good update Alpha Trion toy. As it looks like a combination of a cheap KO and a snap together garage kit toy.

Think the best update G1 Alpha Trion toy. Is that Botcon Alpha Trion repurposed Vector Prime toy.

Given that the source of the "big fuss" raised, you should know better tsu

[MaverickPrime]

Yeah...nope, I'll stick to Hasbro, the whole point of this was the charm of getting Minimus Ambus.

[CrankyOldTruck]

Wow, is it really that hard to figure out? Why release an accessory figure in a market where nobody knows what the figure is? The U.S. gets Minimus since that is where he will be more likely to be recognized (for those following the IDW comics at least) and Japan gets Alpha Trion. The internal packaging doesn't have to be altered, the only thing that needs changing is the box art. This is such a simple marketing move and yet you folks are wracking your brains over why this is being done. This isn't rocket science and theirs no great mystery or conspiracy here. Please don't make me drag out my crayons and simplify this any more than I already have for you folks.

[shajaki]

Wow, is it really that hard to figure out? Why release an accessory figure in a market where nobody knows what the figure is? The U.S. gets Minimus since that is where he will be more likely to be recognized (for those following the IDW comics at least) and Japan gets Alpha Trion. The internal packaging doesn't have to be altered, the only thing that needs changing is the box art. This is such a simple marketing move and yet you folks are wracking your brains over why this is being done. This isn't rocket science and theirs no great mystery or conspiracy here. Please don't make me drag out my crayons and simplify this any more than I already have for you folks.

Once again, there's no need to talk down to people. Things can be EASILY stated in a way that's not insulting.

I for one think it's really odd since there's no connection between the two that I'm aware of. But either way I don't really care either since I have no connection to Ambus anyways. I'll be buying whichever is the best Ultra Magnus regardless of whatever robot sits in his cockpit.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I for one think it's really odd since there's no connection between the two that I'm aware of. But either way I don't really care either since I have no connection to Ambus anyways. I'll be buying whichever is the best Ultra Magnus regardless of whatever robot sits in his cockpit.

The G1 Episode "War Dawn" provides a possible answer. In it, Orion Pax and his friend Dion were killed, and Alpha Trion proceeded to rebuild Orion Pax as Optimus Prime, as we all know. Whatever happened to Dion? One theory suggests he was rebuilt into Ultra Magnus, again by Alpha Trion, but they're being particularly coy with confirming it.
FunPub really teased us by having Dion and Mangum, an Ultra Magnus inspired character. shot down, with Alpha Trion being able to rebuilt only one of the two into Ultra Magnus. Which one was it? We'll never know

[Ginrai Minor]

I for one think it's really odd since there's no connection between the two that I'm aware of. But either way I don't really care either since I have no connection to Ambus anyways. I'll be buying whichever is the best Ultra Magnus regardless of whatever robot sits in his cockpit.

The G1 Episode "War Dawn" provides a possible answer. In it, Orion Pax and his friend Dion were killed, and Alpha Trion proceeded to rebuild Orion Pax as Optimus Prime, as we all know. Whatever happened to Dion? One theory suggests he was rebuilt into Ultra Magnus, again by Alpha Trion, but they're being particularly coy with confirming it.
FunPub really teased us by having Dion and Mangum, an Ultra Magnus inspired character. shot down, with Alpha Trion being able to rebuilt only one of the two into Ultra Magnus. Which one was it? We'll never know

Jelze is it the wings universe which has the reference to UM either being Dion or Delta Magnus. Also has Delta appeared in any more fiction.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I for one think it's really odd since there's no connection between the two that I'm aware of. But either way I don't really care either since I have no connection to Ambus anyways. I'll be buying whichever is the best Ultra Magnus regardless of whatever robot sits in his cockpit.

The G1 Episode "War Dawn" provides a possible answer. In it, Orion Pax and his friend Dion were killed, and Alpha Trion proceeded to rebuild Orion Pax as Optimus Prime, as we all know. Whatever happened to Dion? One theory suggests he was rebuilt into Ultra Magnus, again by Alpha Trion, but they're being particularly coy with confirming it.
FunPub really teased us by having Dion and Mangum, an Ultra Magnus inspired character. shot down, with Alpha Trion being able to rebuilt only one of the two into Ultra Magnus. Which one was it? We'll never know

Jelze is it the wings universe which has the reference to UM either being Dion or Delta Magnus. Also has Delta appeared in any more fiction.

Magnum is not Delta Magnus. And it is the Wings Universe, which is basically the G1 cartoon with a lot of subtle differences. Plus Delta Magnus appeared only in IDW comics, alongside its version of Orion Pax.

[Ginrai Minor]

I for one think it's really odd since there's no connection between the two that I'm aware of. But either way I don't really care either since I have no connection to Ambus anyways. I'll be buying whichever is the best Ultra Magnus regardless of whatever robot sits in his cockpit.

The G1 Episode "War Dawn" provides a possible answer. In it, Orion Pax and his friend Dion were killed, and Alpha Trion proceeded to rebuild Orion Pax as Optimus Prime, as we all know. Whatever happened to Dion? One theory suggests he was rebuilt into Ultra Magnus, again by Alpha Trion, but they're being particularly coy with confirming it.
FunPub really teased us by having Dion and Mangum, an Ultra Magnus inspired character. shot down, with Alpha Trion being able to rebuilt only one of the two into Ultra Magnus. Which one was it? We'll never know

Jelze is it the wings universe which has the reference to UM either being Dion or Delta Magnus. Also has Delta appeared in any more fiction.

Magnum is not Delta Magnus. And it is the Wings Universe, which is basically the G1 cartoon with a lot of subtle differences. Plus Delta Magnus appeared only in IDW comics, alongside its version of Orion Pax.

Thanks Jelze!! Delta Magnus and his guard of autobots watched over the matrix between Prime candidates right? I would love a classics version of both those guys even though the seem to just be diaclone paint scheme rehashes(IDW DM anyways)

[Wolfman Jake]

Wow, is it really that hard to figure out? Why release an accessory figure in a market where nobody knows what the figure is? The U.S. gets Minimus since that is where he will be more likely to be recognized (for those following the IDW comics at least) and Japan gets Alpha Trion. The internal packaging doesn't have to be altered, the only thing that needs changing is the box art. This is such a simple marketing move and yet you folks are wracking your brains over why this is being done. This isn't rocket science and theirs no great mystery or conspiracy here. Please don't make me drag out my crayons and simplify this any more than I already have for you folks.

Except that Takara has gone with a color scheme true to the current IDW presentation of Ultra Magnus, so if they're using that source material for the look, why not include Minimus Ambus inside? Hasbro IS including Minimus, but using an altered color scheme that is more akin to the traditional "cartoon G1" layout for Ultra Magnus (thought decidedly not perfect). If Takara is hesitant to use source material they don't think their Japanese fans are familiar with, then why not do their usual routine and make the color scheme as G1 as possible, as is their usual want with these "Classics" releases? If they're not afraid to use Western source material, as evidenced by using the color scheme they chose for this figure, then why do it half way? It IS weird. You have to buy both the Hasbro and Takara version of this figure it you want a perfect IDW representation.

[mooncake623]

Thanks to Amazon Japan we get to take a look at the new official images of Takara Tomy's Transformers Legends LG-13 Megatron! Being a redeco of the Combiner Wars Leader Megatron with a more G1 Cartoon accurate deco, LG-13 Megatron is due to be released on 30th of this month! Check out the images we've mirrored below, and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

[Shockwave7]

I see little difference between this one and the Hasbro release....

[mooncake623]

I see little difference between this one and the Hasbro release....

Here is a comparison shot.

[Nemesis Destron]

I see huge differences and let me say that they are stellar. I can't wait to get this guy then to decide witch upgrade set is best for Mighty Megs here.

[Starsaber468]

Looks nice but i prefer the hasbro one plus does anyone care about the liokaiser concept art?

[Cyberpath]

The way Takara always poses the Fusion Cannon looks good but also a little misleading; people who aren't familiar with this mold might not know about the tank barrel sticking out of the cannon.

I have this on pre-order, hope it's a good figure! I'm still a little hesitant about this toy (the deco is fine.)

[Shockwave7]

I still don't see that big a difference between the two. The red paneling on the forearms, the two buttons on the chest... It's subtle. And to some people that really makes a difference. For me, not so much. I'm fine with the Hasbro version.

[Agamemnon]

Looks nice but i prefer the hasbro one plus does anyone care about the liokaiser concept art?

Did I miss a post showing the concept art?

[Starsaber468]

On a different popular transformer site i saw a post of a liokaiser concept art

[Sabrblade]

On a different popular transformer site i saw a post of a liokaiser concept art

To clarify for those curious, what was shown was a preliminary concept of Liokaiser from the 1980s made before his design was final way back then.

From Hayato Sakamoto's Twitter - https://twitter.com/hayatoron/status/588726816388489216

[Evil Eye]

I still say that is the best Megatron headsculpt ever.

[Starsaber468]

Can u tell me how i suppose to post a picture on a post? Because u can j iwll post a picture of it

[Starsaber468]

Um guys i got a rumor that we will possibly be getting repaints of the generations arcee and windblade in the combiner hunters comics colors

[Shuttershock]

Um guys i got a rumor that we will possibly be getting repaints of the generations arcee and windblade in the combiner hunters comics colors

Shame. Was hoping for a Nautica out of one of those. Maybe even a Nightbird or Thunderblast.

[Starsaber468]

Well arcee is in black and pink mainly colors due to the combiner hunters look

[MarkNL]

Gosh. The more I see Leader Megs, the more I want it...