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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri May 08, 2015 10:02 am

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mooncake623 wrote:as to why Alpha Trion? I have no clue.. to make you get both? It's working on me =D


Probably to avoid introducing (too many) new characters in a G1-centered line. We already had Windblade, and Minimus Ambus would be practically unknown to the Japanese except for the ones who can read the English comics. Since he has facial hair, Alpha Trin (see my previous post) was a logical choice, especially concerning his connection to Dion and what possibly became of him ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby mooncake623 » Fri May 08, 2015 10:06 am

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mooncake623 wrote:as to why Alpha Trion? I have no clue.. to make you get both? It's working on me =D
Maybe he's the only bearded elderly Autobot from the cartoon that Takara could think of.

Though, you know who might have worked better in Takara's favor for being a bearded, elderly, cartoon Autobot who IS small? Governor Raikuru.
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Sure, he equally has jack to do with Magnus, but it's someone who hasn't gotten a toy yet and from a cartoon Takara's audience is familiar with.


Wow what epsoide is that from? Don't remember him at all.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 08, 2015 10:09 am

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mooncake623 wrote:Wow what epsoide is that from? Don't remember him at all.
He's a Micromaster from Transformers: Victory.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby mooncake623 » Fri May 08, 2015 10:11 am

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mooncake623 wrote:Wow what epsoide is that from? Don't remember him at all.
He's a Micromaster from Transformers: Victory.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Riker



Cool!!

Still.. I don't mind a Mini Alpha Trion for Generations Metroplex? hehe
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Stryfe Convoy » Fri May 08, 2015 10:12 am

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Red or white thighs doesn't mean anything to me. I'll stick with the Hasbro version to get Minimus Ambus.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Mkall » Fri May 08, 2015 11:22 am

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Whoops, wrong thread.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 08, 2015 11:25 am

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Mkall wrote:With Uncle Sam paying me back a bit, I figured I'd get a couple Damashii Gundams that I've have my eye on for a while.

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Okay, but... what that to do with Magnus, here? :???:

And technically Tallgeese III isn't a Gundam... ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Mkall » Fri May 08, 2015 1:13 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Okay, but... what that to do with Magnus, here? :???:

Wrong thread, I haven't done that in a while

And technically Tallgeese III isn't a Gundam... ;)

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Fri May 08, 2015 2:42 pm

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sigh. So Japanese fans wont see a Minimus Ambus release? They do have the comics over there I think, so I;m sure there will be some who would have been excited for this. Why even a repaint into Alpha Trion? It makes no sense. It's almost like the designers had no idea what Hasbro was going for and tried to "fix" it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Fri May 08, 2015 2:48 pm

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Optimizzy wrote:sigh. So Japanese fans wont see a Minimus Ambus release? They do have the comics over there I think, so I;m sure there will be some who would have been excited for this. Why even a repaint into Alpha Trion? It makes no sense. It's almost like the designers had no idea what Hasbro was going for and tried to "fix" it.


Japan does have original US comics, the same way we have original manga: imported and not officially translated I think.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Fri May 08, 2015 2:53 pm

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Oh you Japan, I like how you're trying to "fix" the figures that are intended to represent a very specific interpretation of the character. It's be like if we got reverse convoy and hasbro painted in regular Megatron colors XD
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri May 08, 2015 2:53 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:as to why Alpha Trion? I have no clue.. to make you get both? It's working on me =D


Probably to avoid introducing (too many) new characters in a G1-centered line. We already had Windblade, and Minimus Ambus would be practically unknown to the Japanese except for the ones who can read the English comics. Since he has facial hair, Alpha Trin (see my previous post) was a logical choice, especially concerning his connection to Dion and what possibly became of him ;)


If Takara were that concerned about keeping things as "G1" as possible, then why detail the Magnus figure as the IDW version and not try to make it more faithful to the original cartoon, as is their usual style? Repainting Minimus Ambus was just a WEIRD move, any way you slice it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Agamemnon » Fri May 08, 2015 3:45 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:as to why Alpha Trion? I have no clue.. to make you get both? It's working on me =D


Probably to avoid introducing (too many) new characters in a G1-centered line. We already had Windblade, and Minimus Ambus would be practically unknown to the Japanese except for the ones who can read the English comics. Since he has facial hair, Alpha Trin (see my previous post) was a logical choice, especially concerning his connection to Dion and what possibly became of him ;)


If Takara were that concerned about keeping things as "G1" as possible, then why detail the Magnus figure as the IDW version and not try to make it more faithful to the original cartoon, as is their usual style? Repainting Minimus Ambus was just a WEIRD move, any way you slice it.

What, you want a red bumper too?

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby REMINATOR » Fri May 08, 2015 6:00 pm

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Easy decision for me, I was never a fan of UM having a red thigh, so the Hasbro white thigh takes my money :D :D
Other than the red thigh, TTomy UM/Alpha is perfect. However, since I'm a cartoon freak when it comes to G1 UM, the white thigh from Hasbro is a bless.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri May 08, 2015 7:08 pm

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Rated X wrote:Wow thats lame. If anyone wants a real classics Alpha Trion, get your hands on Titanian Saint. You wont be disappointed.


I beg to disagree. The best incarnation for A-3, classic, G1 etc (never transformed btw) is this. And it's official:

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But if Tomy is aping for the IDW (Ambus isn't that too familiar to Japanese fans), then the closest thing to label the mini figure would be a modern A3.
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Postby Ultra Markus » Fri May 08, 2015 7:13 pm

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that doesnt make sense, alpha trion doesnt operate a transtector!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Cobotron » Fri May 08, 2015 7:20 pm

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Wolfman Jake wrote:Why did Takara go with red thighs for their version of Magnus?
Cuz it's comic-accurate?

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I was gonna say because it's toy accurate.

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But that's just how I like my updates.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Fri May 08, 2015 8:09 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:Wow what epsoide is that from? Don't remember him at all.
He's a Micromaster from Transformers: Victory.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Riker



Cool!!

Still.. I don't mind a Mini Alpha Trion for Generations Metroplex? hehe


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Postby shajaki » Fri May 08, 2015 8:32 pm

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It makes almost no sense. But UM himself is my main focus so it doesn't really bug me.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Tsutsukakushi » Fri May 08, 2015 9:09 pm

Think the dark red Burgandy thighs look weird, Prefer cartoon white thighs.

Don't see what the big fuss is all about with recoloring Ambus into Alpha Trion colors. :lol: Doubt anyone is buying this toy solely for the minicon class toy. :lol:

:-? Think that Titanian Saint is a bad example of a good update Alpha Trion toy. As it looks like a combination of a cheap KO and a snap together garage kit toy.

Think the best update G1 Alpha Trion toy. Is that Botcon Alpha Trion repurposed Vector Prime toy. ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Wolfman Jake » Fri May 08, 2015 10:58 pm

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Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think the best update G1 Alpha Trion toy. Is that Botcon Alpha Trion repurposed Vector Prime toy. ;)


Agreed. BotCon 2007 Alpha Trion is pretty darned good for a "Classics" style update. That's been my neo-G1 Alpha Trion for years now. I wouldn't mind seeing that Million Publishing concept of a repaint/retool of Generations Scourge as Alpha Trion at some point in the future, though.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby BERSEKAEL » Fri May 08, 2015 11:21 pm

Is that a Legion (3" tall) firure? :DANCE:
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