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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Treetop Maximus » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:44 am

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Treetop Maximus wrote:Feels like TakaraTomy just wastes an assload of materials with some of their packaging.


You can use those extra materials to repack the item when you no longer need to play them.

Btw, aren't those lipstick enhancement on their lips? Aren't those appearance enhancers objectifying them? 'bots don't need those "enhancers"


Oh, that's why they do it? Because of how ugly a ripped up carded package looks?
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:49 am

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I've always thought it would make more sense to take carded packaging as it is and fold it over into a small box-like contraption to surround the bubble. The bubble could double as the window, there's enough cardboard to wrap around the inner bubble, tightly, just slap on a hook hanger and there you go.

No more waste, the same amount of materials, done. Plus, with them being boxed, you could probably fit more to a case than this way. I must agree, the Takara packaging, while very nice, does come across as wasteful. It's pretty, sure, but wasteful.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:50 am

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Treetop Maximus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:Feels like TakaraTomy just wastes an assload of materials with some of their packaging.


You can use those extra materials to repack the item when you no longer need to play them.

Btw, aren't those lipstick enhancement on their lips? Aren't those appearance enhancers objectifying them? 'bots don't need those "enhancers"


Oh, that's why they do it? Because of how ugly a ripped up carded package looks?


They've been doing that since beastwars iirc. As for a ripped box card,not only for looks but to be environmental friendly :P
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Treetop Maximus » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:56 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:Oh, that's why they do it? Because of how ugly a ripped up carded package looks?


They've been doing that since beastwars iirc. As for a ripped box card,not only for looks but to be environmental friendly :P


Yeah, I remember Stampy's packing being like that, then promptly forgot all about it when I got AD05 and he was on a card. But I think DOTM had Western-styled packaging, too, come to think of it.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Convoy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:05 am

fenrir72 wrote:Btw, aren't those lipstick enhancement on their lips? Aren't those appearance enhancers objectifying them? 'bots don't need those "enhancers"

Hey hey hey, I noticed Chromia's box art, she is kicking up her heels.........is that objectifying her?

I guess since we're officially talking about Chromia now I can post about her without being off topic.
I wasn't a fan of the lavender to begin with but it's growing on me, along with the blue versus clear plastic, and the eye and lip details make it much more appealing when compared to the Hasbro dead-eyes scary-face.

I haven't seen any camel toe, butt crack, nipples or spread eagle poses with legs to the sky. How bad is it really?

Just change the topic header and keep on truckin'.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:11 am

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Convoy wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Btw, aren't those lipstick enhancement on their lips? Aren't those appearance enhancers objectifying them? 'bots don't need those "enhancers"

Hey hey hey, I noticed Chromia's box art, she is kicking up her heels.........is that objectifying her?

I guess since we're officially talking about Chromia now I can post about her without being off topic.
I wasn't a fan of the lavender to begin with but it's growing on me, along with the blue versus clear plastic, and the eye and lip details make it much more appealing when compared to the Hasbro dead-eyes scary-face.

I haven't seen any camel toe, butt crack, nipples or spread eagle poses with legs to the sky. How bad is it really?

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As I mentioned previously, it sounds silly already no?

Now, back to being serious, despite many shots of the fembots, what intrigues me is the paint apps of Windblade's face. The USA version is acceptable but the kabuki motiff seems to enhance most of her features.

Also, when they(Tomy) use the anime style mixed with mecha,the fembots are more pleasing to the eyes when rendered. Some use the Yaniger style, and they also look good (those styles can be seen with those sexist pics I posted a few clicks back)

Maybe a few hours from now, Yuki will present Windblade too.........so excited!
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:28 am

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Autobot032 wrote:I've always thought it would make more sense to take carded packaging as it is and fold it over into a small box-like contraption to surround the bubble. The bubble could double as the window, there's enough cardboard to wrap around the inner bubble, tightly, just slap on a hook hanger and there you go.

No more waste, the same amount of materials, done. Plus, with them being boxed, you could probably fit more to a case than this way. I must agree, the Takara packaging, while very nice, does come across as wasteful. It's pretty, sure, but wasteful.


I like the TakaraTomy TF Prime deluxe boxes the most. Everything's collapsible, including the protective cardboard inside. When I display the figs, I can save space by flat-packing everything and storing them in a drawer.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Cyberpath » Thu Feb 05, 2015 2:42 am

shajaki wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Image.
awesome gif :lol:

million dollar question though: hows the headmaster connection?

Thanks! The Headmaster mechanism is tight but works fine. Everything is tight about this figure, Takara doesn't mess around. (:


To me, Arcee doesn't look objectified in that pic at all, just idle.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 3:28 am

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Cyberpath wrote:
shajaki wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Image.
awesome gif :lol:

million dollar question though: hows the headmaster connection?

Thanks! The Headmaster mechanism is tight but works fine. Everything is tight about this figure, Takara doesn't mess around. (:


To me, Arcee doesn't look objectified in that pic at all, just idle.

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:lol:

I find it distasteful how you pose Brainstorm. You give scientists a bad rep/stereotype :P
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Rated X » Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:24 am

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fenrir72 wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Treetop Maximus wrote:Feels like TakaraTomy just wastes an assload of materials with some of their packaging.


You can use those extra materials to repack the item when you no longer need to play them.

Btw, aren't those lipstick enhancement on their lips? Aren't those appearance enhancers objectifying them? 'bots don't need those "enhancers"


Oh, that's why they do it? Because of how ugly a ripped up carded package looks?


They've been doing that since beastwars iirc. As for a ripped box card,not only for looks but to be environmental friendly :P

All packaging is environmental friendly when it ends up in the recycling bin. ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Feb 05, 2015 5:20 am

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Someone must make a brainstorm body pillow. I already took pics of mine in shall we say compromising poses. This is all about #equality. Every one gets objectified. Image
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:08 am

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:Someone must make a brainstorm body pillow. I already took pics of mine in shall we say compromising poses. This is all about #equality. Every one gets objectified. Image


Seriously though, the poseability of todays releases are outstanding. Either they pop off the seams or pose in such a manner that we can objectify to a fault.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:59 am

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this is hilarious. and I approve. But this pic is an exception, not a rule.

also, yes. I love how well these new figures can be posed. Although I did not like the probable reasoning behind Arcee's pose, I thought it was neat that it could even be done.

I'm all for this increase in posability and Brainstorm is one of my new favorites. Kinda wish I got the legends version now just for the darker canopy. it looks nice.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Evil Eye » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:19 am

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Anyone getting buttflustered over the pose of an inanimate lump of plastic has far, far too much time on their hands. Just sayin'.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby megatronus » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:48 am

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I wonder what actual ladies would have to say about the pose of that inanimate lump of plastic. My wife certainly rolled her eyes at this, and I'd be interested to hear what female members think about it.

At this point, my issue isn't with the pose itself so much as with the people really going out of their way to invalidate or mock the opinions of folks who do take issue with it. Seems very #GamerGate to me. >:oP

Whether or not you think there's some level of sexism/misogyny here, I would have expected the long absent Fembot figures to be treated with some caution. Arcee's pose isn't nearly as bad as the objectification of FlameWar and FlareUp, but given the potential for that perception, I had hoped they would have done something generic like Chromia's shot rather than potentially problematic silhouettes like Arcee's or scenes of the lady bots fawning over big strong Star Saber.

Not trying to ruffle feathers here, but I do think it's important for a predominantly male fandom to be conscious of these things.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:09 pm

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megatronus wrote: Not trying to ruffle feathers here, but I do think it's important for a predominantly male fandom to be conscious of these things.


That's my point. I'm actually surprised that my opinion sparked such a backlash. Anyway, on the next thing I guess.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:14 pm

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megatronus wrote:I wonder what actual ladies would have to say about the pose of that inanimate lump of plastic. My wife certainly rolled her eyes at this, and I'd be interested to hear what female members think about it.


This is nothing compared to what I've seen on some Japanese sites with other figures. I'll spare ya the details.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:31 pm

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Delta Magnus wrote:Anyone getting buttflustered over the pose of an inanimate lump of plastic has far, far too much time on their hands. Just sayin'.


Or maybe the time is being used to call out the ingrained mentality of an unfortunately large portion of this fandom. The fact that others may do worse, that there are other, worse episodes on this matter, and that other people don't take issue with it does not dismiss the fact that whenever Arcee (iconic female character of the franchise, for the first time given its proper lump of plastic treatment), Chromia or Windblade show up, this type of image is what we get.

Megatron Wolf Wolfman Jake mentioned earlier about this being systemic, and we all seem to have figured out that there is definitely something about that pose that says 'feminine'. And that is comproved when a 'masculine' character like Brainstorm is shown in the same pose. Yes, I agree, it is systemic.

That does not mean I accept it. I choose to spend my time challenging the assumptions that inanimate lumps of plastic that are meant to represent characters defined as female are posed in ways that reek of objectification, sexualisation and (male) fanservice.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:36 pm

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NOTE: This is a debate that keeps being brought out in threads like this one. There are several threads already dedicated to gender debates in Transformers fiction and toys, and I'd rather we didn't derail this one too. :)

If any of you would like to continue the discussion much further, please choose one of those to do so. This thread is for the Transformers Legends figures.
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Thu Feb 05, 2015 12:48 pm

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Va'al wrote:Megatron Wolf mentioned earlier about this being systemic, and we all seem to have figured out that there is definitely something about that pose that says 'feminine'. And that is comproved when a 'masculine' character like Brainstorm is shown in the same pose. Yes, I agree, it is systemic.


Actually...that was me who said that, Va'al. Guess all werewolves look alike to you, huh? Your so speciesist! ;)
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:03 pm

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Va'al wrote:Megatron Wolf mentioned earlier about this being systemic, and we all seem to have figured out that there is definitely something about that pose that says 'feminine'. And that is comproved when a 'masculine' character like Brainstorm is shown in the same pose. Yes, I agree, it is systemic.


Actually...that was me who said that, Va'al. Guess all werewolves look alike to you, huh? Your so speciesist! ;)


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:35 pm

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I wanted to take more Pictures of Brainstorm's firm buttocks, but he dosesn't have one. Also his back kibble makes it hard to do the classics "pushed up against the bed" body pillow pose.
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Solus Prime » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:47 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wanted to take more Pictures of Brainstorm's firm buttocks, but he dosesn't have one. Also his back kibble makes it hard to do the classics "pushed up against the bed" body pillow pose.

You... WHAT!? :shock:
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:51 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wanted to take more Pictures of Brainstorm's firm buttocks, but he dosesn't have one. Also his back kibble makes it hard to do the classics "pushed up against the bed" body pillow pose.

You... WHAT!? :shock:


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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Thread

Postby Solus Prime » Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:53 pm

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SW's SilverHammer wrote:I wanted to take more Pictures of Brainstorm's firm buttocks, but he dosesn't have one. Also his back kibble makes it hard to do the classics "pushed up against the bed" body pillow pose.

You... WHAT!? :shock:


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