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[fenrir72]

Wis Jetfire propsing to Starscream? I mean, I knew they'd been friends for a long time, I just never knew they were so close.

ewwwwwwwwww

[Midnight_Fox]

Wis Jetfire propsing to Starscream? I mean, I knew they'd been friends for a long time, I just never knew they were so close.

ewwwwwwwwww

Someone's never read the Insecticomics.

[leakin' lubricant]

TF Yuki has posted new images of Legends Leader Class Jetfire, both in and out of packaging, and even some with his old frenemy Starscream! A news submission from Seibertron.com board member Cyberpath has pointed us in the direction of Yuki's Twitter, where these new pictures originate, and we've mirrored them here.

Takara Tomy's version of Jetfire has all of the chrome removed and has painted weapon barrels, which is great for those fans who didn't want the chrome on the US release. To compare the two figures, take a look at Yuki's images below and then check out the US Jetfire by clicking here to see our gallery of Hasbro's Leader Jetfire. (Might as well check out our gallery of Classics Starscream, while you're there.)

Package of "LG07 Jet Fire" will be released the end of the month, has been packaged in other items as well vehicle mode of series. The silhouette of jet mode that is visible from the package window, mind you dance it ♪

Legends jet Fire, you may this size ratio is quite happy.

When make put knee, like this ♪

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So glad I preorderd this, looks amazing.

[prjkt]

Surprisingly, aside from the black barrels, I'm actually preferring the chromed accessories on Hasbro's version. The few extra paint apps are nice though, but nothing reprolabels can't fix...

Edit: I've just realised, probably rather late - but the Legends one seems to be lacking the metallic paint of the earlier Takara Generations/United lines that made the decos far superior in most cases (in my mind). Sure there's a few extra paint apps on JF, and Arcee is more screen accurate, but the "punch" just doesn't seem to be there....

[Sabrblade]

Hasbro's is the slighty more show-accurate one this time.

the scale is so out of whack on this guy it makes Starscream either short or a "infant" granted Starscream is his Classics body

Skyfire was a big dude in the cartoon.

Wis Jetfire propsing to Starscream? I mean, I knew they'd been friends for a long time, I just never knew they were so close.

Or, Starscream is the dummy of Jetfire's ventriloquist act.

Who in their right mind WOULDN'T want chrome on their figure?

Everyone who complained about the chrome on the Hasbro version and wanted it removed?

[Evil Eye]

Wis Jetfire propsing to Starscream? I mean, I knew they'd been friends for a long time, I just never knew they were so close.

ewwwwwwwwww

Someone's never read the Insecticomics.

Not enough people know about the Insecticomics. Such is the eternal tragedy of the Transformers fandom.

(To be honest though, way too much of Transformers romance/smut art and fiction is slash. I know "die cishet scum" is a thing now but come on, some hetero pairings would be nice now and again!)

[leakin' lubricant]

Who in their right mind WOULDN'T want chrome on their figure?

Me for one, I have never been a fan of it, I didint like it as a kid in G1, wasn't a fan of its scattershot approach in Henkei and think it looks awful on Generations Jetfire, Takara's is tonnes better in my opinion.

[BERSEKAEL]

Hasbro version is more accurate... just chromed

But also is half price, I am happy with my hasbro version after all

[CrankyOldTruck]

Who in their right mind WOULDN'T want chrome on their figure?

Me for one, I have never been a fan of it, I didint like it as a kid in G1, wasn't a fan of its scattershot approach in Henkei and think it looks awful on Generations Jetfire, Takara's is tonnes better in my opinion.

Agreed. The only Hasbro set that I've come across recently where they actually used chrome and had it look decent was the Optimus two pack with the Classics Optimus and the AoE Evasion Mode Optimus packaged together. The Classics Optimus actually looked good with it and Hasbro didn't go overboard. Of course, they drastically overused it on every other version of Optimus and most of the Grimlocks from the AoE line so I imagine they were running out of the stuff by the time they produced that two-pack.

[megatronus]

Who in their right mind WOULDN'T want chrome on their figure?

Me for one, I have never been a fan of it, I didint like it as a kid in G1, wasn't a fan of its scattershot approach in Henkei and think it looks awful on Generations Jetfire, Takara's is tonnes better in my opinion.

Agreed. The only Hasbro set that I've come across recently where they actually used chrome and had it look decent was the Optimus two pack with the Classics Optimus and the AoE Evasion Mode Optimus packaged together. The Classics Optimus actually looked good with it and Hasbro didn't go overboard. Of course, they drastically overused it on every other version of Optimus and most of the Grimlocks from the AoE line so I imagine they were running out of the stuff by the time they produced that two-pack.

I make four. I've liked the way chrome has been applied on some figures, but notLeader Jetfire. Especially when the entirely chromed weapons preclude barrel detailing. Show accurate Jetfire be damned, the Takara one just looks more cohesive.

[Evil Eye]

Agreed. Takara version just looks nicer. Also I have heard Takara uses better plastic so there's that.

[Emerje]

Who in their right mind WOULDN'T want chrome on their figure?

Transmetals Rattrap doesn't want chrome on his figure.

Emerje

[Robogeek1973]

I much prefer the no chrome look of the TakTom Jetfire but there's no way I'm buying another one, especially at the price he is.

[Optimum Supreme]

I wasn't terribly thrilled by the chrome, but wow, that looks a lot worse than preliminary photos had looked. Especially the boosters, they look so cheap. I think they really messed up here, should have gone with a bit darker red on those parts. As is, I'm glad I have the chromed up one now.

[Nemesis Destron]

Yeah I can see those whose POV enjoy the cartoon accuracy much more. I for one dig the homage to the G1 toy this really represents then that of Hasbro's. The G1 toy didn't have any shiny paint or chrome especially for the boosters. I really wish Takara would do the same as they did with Henkei Jetfire and give him a red visor for that almost perfect G1 representation. If you all know Hasbro did blue as they are now with the leader class and I think Takara should do it red...but I got a feeling that won't happen this time.

Anyway this is looking so sweet and I'm glad I held off the temptation of buying the Hasbro release!

[fenrir72]

Wis Jetfire propsing to Starscream? I mean, I knew they'd been friends for a long time, I just never knew they were so close.

ewwwwwwwwww

Someone's never read the Insecticomics.

Iirc, there were those Megs and Starscream yaoi themed web comics but Skyfire?

[Autobot032]

Agreed. Takara version just looks nicer. Also I have heard Takara uses better plastic so there's that.

I can honestly say the better plastic rumor has no basis in fact. I have Arms Micron Breakdown, Smokescreen and Unicron, as well as AD-31 Armor Knight Optimus from AoE and the plastic is the same as the US version, just different shades and paint decos.

The only time Takara has superior plastic is when they don't use GPS color plastic. A good example of this is Metals Megatron, who still holds up to this day, while Transmetals Megatron just falls apart.

Takara's used crappy GPS plastic as well, so they're no better than Hasbro on that part of it.

[mooncake623]

Agreed. Takara version just looks nicer. Also I have heard Takara uses better plastic so there's that.

I can honestly say the better plastic rumor has no basis in fact. I have Arms Micron Breakdown, Smokescreen and Unicron, as well as AD-31 Armor Knight Optimus from AoE and the plastic is the same as the US version, just different shades and paint decos.

The only time Takara has superior plastic is when they don't use GPS color plastic. A good example of this is Metals Megatron, who still holds up to this day, while Transmetals Megatron just falls apart.

Takara's used crappy GPS plastic as well, so they're no better than Hasbro on that part of it.

Ok i don't want to jinx it but I have Transmetals Megatron and still Transform at times and... it hasn't fallen to pieces yet... what is this GPS everyone is always talking about when they say Transmetal Megatron? Does location play a factor? or maybe just ham fisted hands?

[Autobot032]

Agreed. Takara version just looks nicer. Also I have heard Takara uses better plastic so there's that.

I can honestly say the better plastic rumor has no basis in fact. I have Arms Micron Breakdown, Smokescreen and Unicron, as well as AD-31 Armor Knight Optimus from AoE and the plastic is the same as the US version, just different shades and paint decos.

The only time Takara has superior plastic is when they don't use GPS color plastic. A good example of this is Metals Megatron, who still holds up to this day, while Transmetals Megatron just falls apart.

Takara's used crappy GPS plastic as well, so they're no better than Hasbro on that part of it.

Ok i don't want to jinx it but I have Transmetals Megatron and still Transform at times and... it hasn't fallen to pieces yet... what is this GPS everyone is always talking about when they say Transmetal Megatron? Does location play a factor? or maybe just ham fisted hands?

G.old P.lastic S.yndrome. It seems to be fixed now, but in the '80s and '90s, the plastics weren't mixed and made quite the same way they are today. The metallic flecks would prevent a solid cohesion and over time, the plastic bonds would degrade and lead to crumbling.

For Megatron, it's his waist and sometimes the tail connector. It doesn't have to be exactly gold, either. Any plastic that had swirls and/or metallic flecks in it was susceptible.

Here's a good example of what GPS can do:



And

[mooncake623]

Agreed. Takara version just looks nicer. Also I have heard Takara uses better plastic so there's that.

I can honestly say the better plastic rumor has no basis in fact. I have Arms Micron Breakdown, Smokescreen and Unicron, as well as AD-31 Armor Knight Optimus from AoE and the plastic is the same as the US version, just different shades and paint decos.

The only time Takara has superior plastic is when they don't use GPS color plastic. A good example of this is Metals Megatron, who still holds up to this day, while Transmetals Megatron just falls apart.

Takara's used crappy GPS plastic as well, so they're no better than Hasbro on that part of it.

Ok i don't want to jinx it but I have Transmetals Megatron and still Transform at times and... it hasn't fallen to pieces yet... what is this GPS everyone is always talking about when they say Transmetal Megatron? Does location play a factor? or maybe just ham fisted hands?

G.old P.lastic S.yndrome. It seems to be fixed now, but in the '80s and '90s, the plastics weren't mixed and made quite the same way they are today. The metallic flecks would prevent a solid cohesion and over time, the plastic bonds would degrade and lead to crumbling.

For Megatron, it's his waist and sometimes the tail connector. It doesn't have to be exactly gold, either. Any plastic that had swirls and/or metallic flecks in it was susceptible.

Here's a good example of what GPS can do:



And

lol thanks! I know what GPS is I just that I found my transmetal Megatron to be quit durable! Was just wondering where the breaks were.

[fenrir72]

Maybe a different color shade of plastic like the Japanese version of Drift. The Hasbro version had a duller color.

[Sabrblade]

Ok i don't want to jinx it but I have Transmetals Megatron and still Transform at times and... it hasn't fallen to pieces yet... what is this GPS everyone is always talking about when they say Transmetal Megatron? Does location play a factor? or maybe just ham fisted hands?

[megatronus]

Ok i don't want to jinx it but I have Transmetals Megatron and still Transform at times and... it hasn't fallen to pieces yet... what is this GPS everyone is always talking about when they say Transmetal Megatron? Does location play a factor? or maybe just ham fisted hands?

The horror!!!

[Sabrblade]

The horror!!!

And that's only one minor break. A lot of parts are made of that brown plastic. The torso sides, shoulders, upper arms, thigh/pelvis connectors, etc. can all break too.

[leakin' lubricant]

Yeah I can see those whose POV enjoy the cartoon accuracy much more. I for one dig the homage to the G1 toy this really represents then that of Hasbro's. The G1 toy didn't have any shiny paint or chrome especially for the boosters. I really wish Takara would do the same as they did with Henkei Jetfire and give him a red visor for that almost perfect G1 representation. If you all know Hasbro did blue as they are now with the leader class and I think Takara should do it red...but I got a feeling that won't happen this time.

Anyway this is looking so sweet and I'm glad I held off the temptation of buying the Hasbro release!

Me too, good point about the visor, nothing a paintbrush can't fix.