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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby DeathReviews » Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:58 am

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Taking a closer look at Swoop from different angles, it seems that they did indeed follow the animation model pretty closely, except in one aspect. And that's the wings.

I add the disclaimer, that this is Sunbow we're talking about. And they're notorious for going off-model. But with Swoop at least, I noted some consistency. The official model drawing for Swoop is this one:

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As can be seen for the Dino mode, the wings have a distinct triangular web connection to the shoulders, and to the back dino legs/claws. There are also additional angles near the shoulders/neck to give it a more pinion/webbed appearance.

But in the show, the lazy animators rarely followed that setup. Instead, the wings connected in a fairly straight line without any additional bends or angles. There was also a distinctive three-hinge setup for each wing. It could fold where it joined to the body. It also folded near the middle of each wing. But there was also another hinge half-way between the second hinge, and the wing tip. And in the show, they USED that extra hinge to give Swoop's wings more flapping/curling ability, as shown in this screenshot:

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The 86 Leader Swoop figure seems to be trying to mimic the image of Swoop shown at the top left of his model sheet, which shows him looked at from the top and down. I would rather they had followed the other model images which show expanded wings, and the tri-hinge setup. Nitpicking, maybe. But if they were really going for 'on-screen' accuracy, then that setup was the one the animators actually used for the episodes wherein he appeared. It gave him both a wider wingspan, and more articulation. And it looks like they COULD have done it pretty easily.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Apr 01, 2024 12:22 pm

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Well, I gotta say, that is the UGLIEST Commander class figure I've ever seen. 0/10. You failed us, Hasbro! Just call it quits, now. This figure blows!
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:42 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Well, I gotta say, that is the UGLIEST Commander class figure I've ever seen. 0/10. You failed us, Hasbro! Just call it quits, now. This figure blows!


Agreed. just terrible. And the sound bites, sound nothing like Peter Cullen. Nothing!.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:37 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Well, I gotta say, that is the UGLIEST Commander class figure I've ever seen. 0/10. You failed us, Hasbro! Just call it quits, now. This figure blows!


Agreed. just terrible. And the sound bites, sound nothing like Peter Cullen. Nothing!.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:01 pm

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Blaster was underwhelming, kinda funny that this is his 3rd release of the exact same mold. I won't get it the same way i did not get the first 2, but glad for people getting the cartoon colors.

Swoop looks pretty good, hopefully he will keep the trend of odd numbered dinobot releases actually being good.

Also, I hope we get a red version, I would like that one to go on my Beast Wars shelf.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:07 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I hope we get a red version, I would like that one to go on my Beast Wars shelf.
In that case, wouldn't the smaller Selects POTP Red Swoop be more size-appropriate? Since The Veteran was a Maximal rather than an Autobot.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:09 pm

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Also, I hope we get a red version, I would like that one to go on my Beast Wars shelf.
In that case, wouldn't the smaller Selects POTP Red Swoop be more size-appropriate? Since The Veteran was a Maximal rather than an Autobot.

True, and I do have him, but I use a spare Blue Swoop as the Veteran and I use Red Swoop as Ptero, and they are arms to my Magnaboss, seeing as how Tigatron is on Battle Core Maximus and I do not own Unit-3 yet.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Leader Swoop Revealed

Postby #1 Signal Lancer fan » Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:57 pm

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Fans were also teased with announcements that these figures would be coming out:

-RID Sideburn
-Cybertron Hot Shot
-Infernac Nucleous
-Vector Prime


I know these guys were leaked a while ago, but it's still cool to get their announcements. Vector Prime is one of my all-time favorite Transformers characters, so I'm excited to see the Legacy take on him. He has two distinct looks between Cybertron and Aligned/IDW, so it'll be interesting to see what they go for given the lack of a Universe identifier.

I'm also curious whether Hot Shot will be his original body or his Cybetron Defense Team body.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Leader Swoop Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:03 pm

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#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:I'm also curious whether Hot Shot will be his original body or his Cybetron Defense Team body.
Probably his first body since his Cybertron Defense Team body previously already got an update as a Selects figure retooled from Siege Hound.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Leader Swoop Revealed

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:07 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:I'm also curious whether Hot Shot will be his original body or his Cybetron Defense Team body.
Probably his first body since his Cybertron Defense Team body previously already got an update as a Selects figure retooled from Siege Hound.

BMac also explicitly mentioned in an Instagram comment it would be the car Hot Shot
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Group Shot of the 86 Leader Dinobots and More Images of Swoop and Latest SS Reveals

Postby william-james88 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:25 pm

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We have quite a few new images to share with you below, all from Hasbro. Firstly, Evan Brooks, the Hasbro designer behind Swoop, wrote an Instagram post about the toy and includes new images. We get a better idea of the wingspan, which seems G1 (show) accurate and we get that important group shot.
Also, we know that Hasui is the Takara engineer behind this release, as with all the other Dinobots. He's the master behind MP 10, HFTD Leader Starscream, Titan Devastator and so much more.

We then have official images of the Studio Series 2024 wave 2 deluxes, voyager and leader from Hasbro, showing their in package images. Enjoy!

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Tue Apr 02, 2024 2:29 pm

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Definitely picking up Side Burn and Hot Shot on sight.

The real question is... will they eventually give us the repaints for both? Super Side Burn and Excellion. Hopefully Excellion is easier to Gert this time around than he was originally.

Vector Prime might be interesting. I own the original one, but would like to see what a modern take on him does. At least his soft rubbery wings and sword probably won't be a thing.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Tue Apr 02, 2024 3:13 pm

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That Sideswipe looks WAY better than the first mold from back in the day.
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Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby william-james88 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:25 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Definitely picking up Side Burn and Hot Shot on sight.

The real question is... will they eventually give us the repaints for both? Super Side Burn and Excellion. Hopefully Excellion is easier to Gert this time around than he was originally.

Vector Prime might be interesting. I own the original one, but would like to see what a modern take on him does. At least his soft rubbery wings and sword probably won't be a thing.


His sword was soft plastic? I remember it being hard plastic for some reason.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Overcracker » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:39 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Definitely picking up Side Burn and Hot Shot on sight.

The real question is... will they eventually give us the repaints for both? Super Side Burn and Excellion. Hopefully Excellion is easier to Gert this time around than he was originally.

Vector Prime might be interesting. I own the original one, but would like to see what a modern take on him does. At least his soft rubbery wings and sword probably won't be a thing.


His sword was soft plastic? I remember it being hard plastic for some reason.


Soft and wobbly, sadly, at least the Hasbro Version.

Galaxy Force had apparently a stiffer sword, though I never owned him so can’t confirm that.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:44 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Definitely picking up Side Burn and Hot Shot on sight.

The real question is... will they eventually give us the repaints for both? Super Side Burn and Excellion. Hopefully Excellion is easier to Gert this time around than he was originally.

Vector Prime might be interesting. I own the original one, but would like to see what a modern take on him does. At least his soft rubbery wings and sword probably won't be a thing.


His sword was soft plastic? I remember it being hard plastic for some reason.
The Hasbro version (left) used soft plastic for the sword and wings, while the Takara version (right) used a harder non-bendy plastic.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sowndwave76 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:53 pm

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So it looks like in the original photos from the display at WonderCon, Swoop’s wings weren’t transformed completely; the circular hinge I spotted is used to extend his wings.
In those photos, that hinge is at the back of the wings, but in recent photos, those are in the front (once the wings are opened all the way).
Now I don’t think this makes some ginormous difference, but definitely helps.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:01 pm

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Overcracker wrote:Definitely picking up Side Burn and Hot Shot on sight.

The real question is... will they eventually give us the repaints for both? Super Side Burn and Excellion. Hopefully Excellion is easier to Gert this time around than he was originally.

Vector Prime might be interesting. I own the original one, but would like to see what a modern take on him does. At least his soft rubbery wings and sword probably won't be a thing.


His sword was soft plastic? I remember it being hard plastic for some reason.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:11 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I may have skimmed over the article, but does Swoop really come with a flight stand?
No. He's just flight stand compatible.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:12 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:I may have skimmed over the article, but does Swoop really come with a flight stand?
No. He's just flight stand compatible.


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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Big Grim » Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:24 am

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:10 am

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Big Grim wrote:Having tiger strip Grimlock, I gotta admit, I wouldn't say no to G2 coloured Dinobots. The blue and green swoop in particular. :D

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I would be on board with this.

I would also like leader FOC Dinobots, though I can wait on them until we finish the live action leader dinobots.

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Speed: 7
Endurance: 7
Rank: 8
Courage: 10
Firepower: 8
Skill: 8

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