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ZeroWolf wrote:1984Forever@ This Megatron has been through much more then any other Megatron (to the point where I begin to wonder if they're setting up someone taking Megs name ala Beast Wars), and the cast list isn't Z list...There's no grappler, hoist or inferno. So since they aren't anywhere they are Z list My question is though why do you read MtMtE if your so unhappy with it. Isn't RiD good enough for you?

Anyway, I really enjoyed this issue, wasn't quite the event horizon I was hoping for but I loved it nonetheless. Took me a moment to find the flow of Nautica and Nightbeats conversation, and I found it amusing when Nautica called Ravage a girl, only for Riptide to call him a boy a panel later. Having a girl around must confuse them a bit I'm also calling for a Nautica and Nightbeat !pairing bring on #33!

Sad. Transformers has degenerated to the point where one Transformer mistakenly calls another "she" and that's seen as entertainment. I just don't see the appeal of Nautica and her one tool. If she is so dependent on this Super Monkey Wrench why didn't she have the damn thing integrated into her forearm? I don't know, maybe it's the tiny cockpits that Milne draws onto his Transformers playskool alt-modes that makes me hate this character. Hasbro incorporated Milne's designs into it's toys and ruined Generations Trailbreaker, Hoist and Skids for true fans everywhere. Or maybe it's Nautica's name, ripped off from a clothing company that hasn't been hot since '89? Seaspray could have been substituted for both Riptide and Nautica. This would have minimized the amount of lame boat characters from 2 down to 1 and lessened the stink of fanfic MTMTE always has about it like old fish.

As for Megatron, I remember when Megatron was scary, whether in Marvel Transformers 1-4 or just sitting in BFG mode in the toy store. IDWs Megatron is made of tin-foil. Hopefully it turns out that it's Bombshell's fault that Megs is such a little bitch now.

ZeroWolf wrote:1984Forever@ This Megatron has been through much more then any other Megatron (to the point where I begin to wonder if they're setting up someone taking Megs name ala Beast Wars), and the cast list isn't Z list...There's no grappler, hoist or inferno. So since they aren't anywhere they are Z list My question is though why do you read MtMtE if your so unhappy with it. Isn't RiD good enough for you?

Anyway, I really enjoyed this issue, wasn't quite the event horizon I was hoping for but I loved it nonetheless. Took me a moment to find the flow of Nautica and Nightbeats conversation, and I found it amusing when Nautica called Ravage a girl, only for Riptide to call him a boy a panel later. Having a girl around must confuse them a bit I'm also calling for a Nautica and Nightbeat !pairing bring on #33!

1984forever wrote:Hasbro incorporated Milne's designs into it's toys and ruined Generations Trailbreaker, Hoist and Skids for true fans everywhere.

As for Megatron, I remember when Megatron was scary, whether in Marvel Transformers 1-4 or just sitting in BFG mode in the toy store. IDWs Megatron is made of tin-foil. Hopefully it turns out that it's Bombshell's fault that Megs is such a little **** now.

"True fans"
"Marvel Transformers "1-4"

Anytime anyone uses the phrase "true fan/s" I immediately stop listening to what they have to say, because only their version of the fandom is "true", and nothing anyone says has the least bit of truth to it. It's okay that other people like this, 1984forever. It really is. Would you rather have had Transformers as a whole, comic books, toys, etc, spectacularly fail so 1984 would have been the ONLY year of the franchise? I just honestly do not get this blind loyalty to the earliest days of the franchise.

My most important question to you is this, 1984forever: If you can't accept anything other than the first half of the first season of the cartoon, the first four issues of the Marvel comic book, and any Transformers toy that came without a rubsign it's first year out....then for the love of Primus....WHY are you a member of a site that celebrates ALL things Transformers? Why don't you create, build, and maintain a site that caters to your one specific interest in the Transformers hobby as a whole? I dare you to answer my question rationally.

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1984@ I think we established in other discussions that your opinions aren't shared by everyone, and that you shouldn't use stuff like true fan, afterall it doesn't exist and never did. Also Seaspray, why use a character like that when you can create new characters that can hopefully stand the test of time like other non-G1 cartoon characters like Jihaxus, waspinator, impactor etc. We need to stop relying on old characters and start creating new ones, create the primes, megatrons and bumblebees of the next generation of fans, our kids (for those who have them)

As for Nautica, maybe she'll get it attached in the future or maybe it's a reference to doctor who and his do-it-all sonic screwdriver.

No Zero, there is such a thing as a true fan, it is me.

I am a true Transformers fan, only the original incarnation will satisfy me, and that is the "Bild Lilli", the doll Matel later KOed and released as Barbie, which later got the accessory named Ken, who was later put into army uniforms and sold as the very first action figure, which then prompted Hasbro to create GI Joe, which Takara licensed and developed into Microman, which later got spinoffs in the form of Microchange and Diaclone, which are the basis for Transformers.

So yes, Transformers have been ruined and have stopped being Transformers ever since Barbie.

I getting back on track.

I loved this issue, the interaction between Megatron and Ravage was fantastic, nice to see Megs finally questioning himself, the blind loyalty of the Decepticon cause was a great line.

The slaughterhouse was quite grim seeing the aftermath of the attack and the realisation of what had happened was played well. Nice to see Rewind back, love the little fella and great to see that this arc has spanned since the message in MTMTHE #1

Can't wait for the next one

Has anybody ever seen Henry Rollins' impression of William Shatner eating scallops?

This is the best scallop I've ever had! No! THIS is the best scallop I've ever had. NO! THIS...

That's how I feel about MTMTE every single month.

THIS is the best Transformers comic ever written. No, THIS...

Bounti76 wrote:

1984forever wrote:Hasbro incorporated Milne's designs into it's toys and ruined Generations Trailbreaker, Hoist and Skids for true fans everywhere.
As for Megatron, I remember when Megatron was scary, whether in Marvel Transformers 1-4 or just sitting in BFG mode in the toy store. IDWs Megatron is made of tin-foil. Hopefully it turns out that it's Bombshell's fault that Megs is such a little **** now.

"True fans"
"Marvel Transformers "1-4"
Anytime anyone uses the phrase "true fan/s" I immediately stop listening to what they have to say, because only their version of the fandom is "true", and nothing anyone says has the least bit of truth to it. It's okay that other people like this, 1984forever. It really is. Would you rather have had Transformers as a whole, comic books, toys, etc, spectacularly fail so 1984 would have been the ONLY year of the franchise? I just honestly do not get this blind loyalty to the earliest days of the franchise.
My most important question to you is this, 1984forever: If you can't accept anything other than the first half of the first season of the cartoon, the first four issues of the Marvel comic book, and any Transformers toy that came without a rubsign it's first year out....then for the love of Primus....WHY are you a member of a site that celebrates ALL things Transformers? Why don't you create, build, and maintain a site that caters to your one specific interest in the Transformers hobby as a whole? I dare you to answer my question rationally.

I actually like season 2 and 3 of the cartoon and Marvel TF up until about #23, it's just not as good as the early stuff. James Roberts reminds me of a hack season 3 writer coming on after a bunch of season 2 writers have already messed things up. Instead of fixing things and bringing Transformers back to it's roots, people like Roberts try to create something new but only succeed in making Transformers look less like itself and more like some other franchise... Star Wars, Doctor Who, Pokemon... you fill in the blank.

A site dedicated to real Transformers and true fans would be a great idea. Too bad there are so many Hackers out here with hatred for G1 bubbling up in their throats that the site would probably get trashed within hours.

I'm surprised there isn't already one. Plus most hackers have bigger targets then a fan site (unless they havebeen wronged by the people behind the site)

You still haven't answered the question 1984, why are you still hanging on with MtMtE? I don't believe your trolling howeve, its more of a case you keep reading it in the hope it'll become a series you want to read. So, what is it that keeps bringing you back?.

Something else I noticed though on a recent re-read, the theme of re-editing your past has come back in a big way. But what's it building to? And what part does megs have to play.

I keep reading MTMTE because it's a pretty good book, even though it's not really Transformers.

Anyways, my guess is it's the future LL crew. A crew that managed to recapture Overlord sometime in the future. Maybe Overlord didn't kill Rewind because he needed someone to chronicle his greatness.

See I don't remember seeing chromedome amongst those corpses...nor Brainstorm thinking about it. See I was thinking what if this LL didn't have cd on it...hence Overlord still captive.

I just wanted to share this:

What the...? That's quite strange, wonder what the issues come.with for that price (I wonder if there was a glitch and the decimal point ended up wrong)

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I just wanted to share this:

Lol wat?

Well I mean come on, isn't the normal retail price for an IDW comic $40.00.

I don't even...but what...why...but then...and yet...

I'm so confused.

But really, the only part I didn't like was that page with Nightbeat and Nautica on the elevator. While I get what Milne/Roberts were trying to do, It felt more distracting then expirimental.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't even...but what...why...but then...and yet...

I'm so confused.

But really, the only part I didn't like was that page with Nightbeat and Nautica on the elevator. While I get what Milne/Roberts were trying to do, It felt more distracting then expirimental.

I liked that part once I understood it. It does make me wonder about the next issue though and if there's going to be more bits like it.