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News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:37 pm

Flashwave wrote:Could someone pst the Victorion names? I'm on a phone and flipping through the gallery is not easy.

leader hotspot retool = pyra magma
helicopter sisters = storm clash and skyburst
breakdown retool = jumpstream
dead end retool = dust-up
groove retool = rust dust :SICK:

Hope this helps

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:37 pm

I'm fast losing faith in Combiner Wars, I have to be honest.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:41 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:I'm fast losing faith in Combiner Wars, I have to be honest.

aw c'mon, lets lighten up. I posted in another thread that this is the way it was revealed last year, superion and menasor super early, and the third reveal wasn't until the NY toy fair of this year and the fourth reveal wasn't until botcon of this year. If victorion really isn't a standard release, that leaves two waves left. we should expect to see them revealed at ny toy fair next year and botcon of next year; lets all just CALM DOWN you're getting your G2 boxsets, we got to see victorion, if you don't like it, that's your problem, not ours :roll:

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:54 pm

im gonna laugh when Hasbro randomly drops the ball and confirms Nexus Prime using Heat wave from Onslaught , Skyfall and breakaway from from one of the arialbots, Land quake from Brawl , and top spin from the glorious Alpha Brave

i'd pay for a combiner that is something different from the Norm

News Credits: 2 · by **Prowl4** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:55 pm

Victorion looks awful in my opinion, that colour scheme is a real eyesore. Smart move by hasbro making it a set because they'll probably lose a substantial amount of money from it from looking at forums its staunch supporters are even saying "ew".

by **jay5** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:59 pm

So by "G2" do they just mean repaints or is there anything physically different for the molds, for example "G2 Menasor"?

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:01 pm

jay5 wrote:So by "G2" do they just mean repaints or is there anything physically different for the molds, for example "G2 Menasor"?

The original G2 toys were just straight redecos of the G2 toys, so it stands to reason that same applies here.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:03 pm

Scattershot? Damn. The original G1 toy was one of my faves. This is just a another half-hearted retool. Heh, when I was a kid I used to tease one of my friends for his Masters of the Universe figures constantly re-using the same body parts over and over and over and over but that was kind of acceptable back then as action figures were still a 'new' thing. It's 2015 now and Hasbro are just churning out constant unimaginative boring junk using the same pieces over and over with the increasingly rare pleasant surprise such as Sky-Lynx (though still messed up slightly by forcing him into the Combine Wars gimmick).

by **jay5** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:04 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
jay5 wrote:So by "G2" do they just mean repaints or is there anything physically different for the molds, for example "G2 Menasor"?
The original G2 toys were just straight redecos of the G2 toys, so it stands to reason that same applies here.

Cool, I might pick up a few Stunticon cars if they look good.

Any news of an MP Mirage?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:05 pm

jay5 wrote:So by "G2" do they just mean repaints or is there anything physically different for the molds, for example "G2 Menasor"?

Generation 2 started out as bright-colored redeco of G1 molds (with some tweaks done to incorporate new features like sound packs and G.I. Joe guns), so physically there's nothing different:

Transformers Generation 2 Superion Gallery

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:06 pm

Delta Magnus wrote:I'm fast losing faith in Combiner Wars, I have to be honest.

I agree. It seems to have just declined into stagnation at this point. Personally I have my fingers crossed that wave 6 (Sky Lynx, Hound, Smokescreen etc.) will be the last full wave in the Combiner Wars assortment and they'll move on to Titan Wars (I NEED that sexy Astrotrain-looking thing in my life) starting from next Summer. Of course I don't think this will actually happen because Victorion is coming out in the middle of 2016 and I really don't think the other Technobots will go unmade, but one can dream.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:06 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Scattershot? Damn. The original G1 toy was one of my faves. This is just a another half-hearted retool. Heh, when I was a kid I used to tease one of my friends for his Masters of the Universe figures constantly re-using the same body parts over and over and over and over but that was kind of acceptable back then as action figures were still a 'new' thing. It's 2015 now and Hasbro are just churning out constant unimaginative boring junk using the same pieces over and over with the increasingly rare pleasant surprise such as Sky-Lynx (though still messed up slightly by forcing him into the Combine Wars gimmick).

Life sucks, you should probably accept it

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:12 pm

I'm not actually that fussed about Scattorshot being on his own. As others have said, Drag Strip was part of both Superion and Ultra Prime in wave 1, and I remember hearing it was stated in the panel that Betatron is the "Beta" version of a future Combiner, so it's safe to assume the other Technobots are coming.

by **jay5** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:14 pm

My guess would be that they will pad their pockets with "G2" repaints of the existing set of four CW gestalts (Superion, Menasor, Defensor, Devastator, plus the fan-made which they planned to be almost entirely a repaint of existing molds) while simultaneously developing the next set of four gestalts with new molds (Computron, Bruticus, Predaking, pick a fourth [Liokaiser,etc]). Though if Bruticus and some of the other limbs from the next set are partial retools of existing molds, that works to their benefit.

This enables them to maintain a strong cashflow while producing a whole new set of gestalts. At least that's what my business sense tells me.

by **Gearslide** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:16 pm

Wait...

I understand Hasbro's using "Betatron" to give Scattorshot a use until/if they make the Deluxe Technobots...

But why does Betatron (and potentially Computron) LITERALLY have Superion's head, in the exact same paint scheme? Black helmet, gold pipes, red visor, and silver mouthplate? That's not even close to Computron.

Maybe it's a prototype and they haven't used the proper paint apps yet/created the Combiner head?

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:21 pm

So much negativity...

I think Victorion in molded plastic colors is going to look amazing. New feet and hands? Hasbro is listening.

The G2 redecos are sweet and something desirable for collectors.

I'm not even a staunch Combiner Wars advocate and I think they did a great job.

(Except Scattershot...that could have gone better. I do think the limbs are forthcoming though. I just hope they are club exclusives because your collective rage is delicious.)

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:34 pm

By the by, anybody who "G2" Powerglide and Blackjack are based on? Neither Powerglide or Runabout/Blackjack were released in G2, so I'm wondering where their colors came from.

News Credits: 1 · by **Tranzilla** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:37 pm

Autobot tap out wrote:im gonna laugh when Hasbro randomly drops the ball and confirms Nexus Prime using Heat wave from Onslaught , Skyfall and breakaway from from one of the arialbots, Land quake from Brawl , and top spin from the glorious Alpha Brave i'd pay for a combiner that is something different from the Norm

That's FunPub's playground. I'd expect that for Pasadena in 2017, maybe.

Heatwave from Hotspot
Breakaway from Air Raid
Landquake from Brawl
Topspin from Alpha Bravo
???? from Rook (Chase would fit)
Skyfall from Powerglide

I was actually expecting to see the G2 Menasor from the club. Maybe G2 Animated, then. Given they try to 1UP each year, make them COMBINE!!!!! Just sayin'.

As far as next year's Botcon, they need to center around a Beast Wars theme for the 20th Anniversary. Would love to see them finish the Beast Wars arc they opened up at the end of Animated's run in 2009.

Ranting over. You may now return to SDCC coverage already in progress. :grin:

by **Gearslide** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:45 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:By the by, anybody who "G2" Powerglide and Blackjack are based on? Neither Powerglide or Runabout/Blackjack were released in G2, so I'm wondering where their colors came from.

The closest thing I thought of with Powerglide, is that he's either in a deco inspired by the 2008 Universe toy, OR he's based on Bad Boy, but with all the blue turned red (Like, he's nearly spot on in resemblance if you switch the colors).

Blackjack just seems to be based on the Purple car accessory that was going to come with the original G2 Menasor toy (with bonus details to prevent him from looking bland).

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 3:59 pm

We return after that short post-Hasbro panel break with a new Seibertron.com gallery, directly from San Diego Comic Con 2015! The Hasbro booth was populated with more products than earlier today, and we get a much better look at the Combiner Victorion, with the six Torchbearers each taking a little of the spotlight too - check out below Pyra Magna (the torso), Jumpstream & Dustup (arms), Stormclash & Skyburst (legs) and Rust Dust (chest piece)!

by **Desslok2201** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:02 pm

Here's another thought on the Computron/betatron thing. Maybe the plan is to only do Scattershot, so there will be no Computron proper. I really can't see Takara doing all 4 limbs just to put out Computron. Unite Warriors may just not have an Abominus or Computron

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:07 pm

The next gallery from the Hasbro Booth at San Diego Comic Con 2015 shows the latest iteration of the Transformers Combiner Wars Silverbolt mold as Scattershot, plus the Autobots part of Optimus Maximus in the IDW Combiner Wars finale: Prowl, Mirage, Ironhide and Sunstreaker.

Check out below a selection from the full gallery, which you can access by clicking on any image, and let us know what you think on this take on Computron in the new Betatron monicker. Do you think this even his final form..?

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:08 pm

These look much better, full praise to seibs, and anyone else there :BOWDOWN:

Victorion looks pretty nice in these pics, wish they allowed for one more color to accent certain parts, or to break up the monotonous paint scheme; will be getting it, can't wait

Beta-thingy looks distinctly lazy in combined mode, maybe this is a super-early release, and they don't have the head molded for computhingy yet :???:

It's not even got painted detail in combined mode (please don't let this be official

by **Gearslide** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:12 pm

Desslok2201 wrote:Here's another thought on the Computron/betatron thing. Maybe the plan is to only do Scattershot, so there will be no Computron proper. I really can't see Takara doing all 4 limbs just to put out Computron. Unite Warriors may just not have an Abominus or Computron

Considering how often Takara makes toys that never show up in Hasbro markets, I actually COULD see them making Computron at the very least. Prime Breakdown, and all of his remolds, never made it to Hasbro markets (excluding the Botcon exclusive Megatron), and is a great example. And who knows if Hasbro will ever put out that new Decepticon lady trio that Takara is making.

They have a Scattorshot mold now, and he would just need the actual Computron head.
Strafe could be remolded from the Air Raid, Skydive, or Fireflight mold (just give him a new head and fuselage).
Lightspeed could be remolded from the Dead End mold (Just needs a new head, and maybe a spoiler and front bumper).
Afterburner could be remolded from the (Already Takara-exclusive) Groove mold (give him a new windshield really; Groove's head already works pretty well for Afterburner).
Nosecone could be remolded from the Brawl mold (Seriously, give him a drill instead of cannon barrel, MAYBE a new tank top, and a new head, and you have Nosecone).

Edit: I just realized how interesting it is, that coming up with that on the fly, each Deluxe Technobot would be a remold from a different team in that scenario (Strafe from an Aerialbot, Lightspeed from a Stunticon, Afterburner from a Protectobot, and Nosecone from a Combaticon).

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 4:15 pm

The next two galleries come with an eyesight warning - these are not the combiners your parents knew! Taking the Superion and Menasor sets as is, Hasbro has redecoed them, including adding the G2 faction symbols, into their Generation 2 neon, gold, wonderfully tacky incarnations - and you can check them out below as sample, with the full galleries here for the Aerialbots and here for the Stunticons.