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News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:29 pm

A quote from Pete Sinclair of Botcon indicated that this years Botcon set will feature "A Generation Lost." Which could be taken in several different ways at the time. Tonight Seibertron.com received a tip from a source whom wishes to remain anonymous that the set for Botcon 2010 will focus on Generation 2 characters. This source was unable to name molds or characters sadly.

The source also states that there will be fewer box sets made this year. A reason was not given however, and thus can only be speculated on.

This leaves the floor wide open to mold and character choice at this time. There are several G2 characters that were repaints of G1 characters, such as black Sideswipe, yellow and purple "camoflague" Onslaught, grey Starscream, purple and black Ramjet and so on. Of course there are plenty of other G2 characters that could be homaged by existing molds.

Keep in mind that this is only a rumour until further evidence is aquired.

Stay tuned to Seibertron.com as we find out more information on these upcoming figures! Also be sure to check out http://www.botcon.com for all official updates for the convention.

News Credits: 1452 · by **Blurrz** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:33 pm

I think I smell Yellow Devastator.

News Credits: 16 · by **Starscream** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:42 pm

I've been smelling yellow devastator since I heard he was in ROTF...

but what mold would that be?

Generation 2 is definitely a good choice, since they can still use well-known characters and names instead of making up random characters.

News Credits: 1 · by **Bumblevivisector** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:51 pm

Well, the G2 Cybertronians from the comics would be the most "lost" of all, as their whole faction never had a single toy. This would mean just about any futuristic military vehicle painted white and mint-green, and possibly toys of Jhiaxus, Rook, and Mindset! I've been ignoring Botcon sets for the most part over the last 3 years or so, but if that's the case, I'll be the first to preorder!

I've been collecting parts necessary to modify Armada Jetfire into Jhiaxus, so if that mold's available they may have the same idea. Since much of their airforce looked Cyclonus-ish, Cybertron Sideways/Noisemaze, recently used for all them Sweeps, would work great as well. A lot of Vehicon molds would be even better, but they're likely not usable unless Beast Wars Returns toys are being cranked out for some Asian market.

by **Shadowstream** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:45 pm

I got into Transformers through G2, sadly. I'm not enthused enough to care that much about a Botcon set though, unless for some unspeakable reason there's a G2 Afterburner. That little piece of crap was my first ever official Transformers toy that I ever owned and if I could get ahold of him in any way, shape, or form I'd be satisfied. That and maybe Space Case.

News Credits: 668 · by **Autobot032** » Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:51 pm

If they would produce a Jhiaxus, and not just a half assed homage, but a good remold of an existing figure, capable of bringing him to toyform without much loss in quality...sign me up.

by **Rated X** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:41 am

Damn I cant believe Im gonna pay $300 bucks for a bunch of neon green and orange transformers. I know nothing about generation 2 since it has no animated series to my knowledge. In the 90's I was too old for buying toys and too young to enjoy collecting like I do now. I hope the set has at least 1 seeker or other Decepticon aircraft. A cooler set would have been the 2 remaining Rainmakers, Sunstorm and some other Cybertronian character for the Voyager class figure. But in essance, Im really attending Botcon 2010 for the expierence. This is the closest its ever gonna come to my home (Miami) so I might as well check it out.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:20 am

I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

News Credits: 609 · by **Razorclaw0000** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:23 am

Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

News Credits: 5 · by **--B--** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:29 am

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

That would look a lot like HTS/Botcon custom class Overkill.

Probably a green TFA Snarl/slag re-paint. Some repaints of the legends minibots would be pretty sweet, but I would prefer it to be some more original G2 figures.

News Credits: 387 · by **Nekoman** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:44 am

Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

I wouldn't mind it, but I doubt we'll see anything G2. A Generation Lost probably means something taking place after the WOH set from last year.

News Credits: 10 · by **Trikeboy** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:00 am

Nekoman wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

I wouldn't mind it, but I doubt we'll see anything G2. A Generation Lost probably means something taking place after the WOH set from last year.

Wasn't the policy that they wouldn't use the same molds two years in a row? Ramjetwas used in 07 so could be used in 09 and 10. Grimlock was in 08 so it could be feasable to be in this box. I hope not as they have done Grimlock twice (once as Overkill).

The only thing G2 I want are the Stunticons and Protectobots. Come on TFCC, get the molds form somewhere. The Seacons sold out almost instantly, so will they.

News Credits: 23 · by **Prime Evil** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:07 am

Nekoman wrote:
Razorclaw0000 wrote:
Mkall wrote:I suspect a black Sideswipe repaint and maybe the purple ramjet too. That'd be great.

Those would me made of win.

Blue Grimlock?

I thought they don't reuse molds that have been used as past convention toys? Grimlock and Ramjet were in the 07 and 08 sets.

Well, it's not written in stone that they can't use previous botcon molds, I think they just want to avoid that as much as possible, but I think that they would use an older mold if the case called for it.

If this G2 rumor is true, then I would really, really love for FP to give us a G2 Ramjet deco. Didn't Pyro and Clench qualify as part of G2? If so, I'm tossing them in as the Botcon leaders for the set. Pyro from Cybertron Op Prime, hopefully in yellow and black. And Clench from G2 Hero Op Prime. Granted, we do already have this mold as RiD Scourge, but I think with a new head, this may work.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:50 am

Let's see... Botcon exclusives could include things like the G2 Stunticons or Protectobots, the unreleased G2 Hero Optimus and Megatron, and maybe the unreleaed G2 Gobots that ended up being redecoed as Spy Changers?

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:22 am

I suppose it had to happen eventually.

Judgement on these toys could be harsh depending on what they bring forward.

by **Equus Maximus** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:41 am

You Know, Instead Of Concentrating On Figures That Were Actually Released In G1, Then Just Given Garish Color Schemes For G2, They Could Actually Commemorate Some Figs That Were Released For G2 And Were Never Really Redone Any Other Time.

There Were The Axelerators; Rapido, Turbofire, Skram, And Windbreaker (Snicker...).

The Sky Scorchers; Windrazor, Eagle Eye, Afterburner, And Terradive.

The Cyberjets; Jetfire, Strafe, Air Raid, Skyjack, Space Case And Hooligan (Ok, Skip Jetfire, Air Raid, And Hooligan, They've Been Covered, Kinda.)

The Rotor Force; Manta Ray, Leadfoot, Ransack And Powerdive.

There Was The Laser Rods (I Know, Volt Got A Homage In The First Movie Line), The Laser Cycles , The Go-Bots (Silly Name, But Some Standouts Like Firecracker), And The Aqua Drenchers (Drench Was Used, But There Are Still Three Others), Heck, They Could Even Do Dreadwing And Smokescreen (Old Names, Cool New Molds).

I Realize I'm A Bit Longwinded About This, But, It Is My Belief That If They Really Want To Commemorate "The Generation Lost" Of Transformers Using A G2 Theme, They Should Look Into The Truly "Lost" Members Of The Transformers Canon.

News Credits: 125 · by **Counterpunch** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:17 am

I expect that this will just be the G2 Stunticon release.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:14 pm

I think we should think inside the Armada/energon/Cybertron/Classics molds, and what G2 characters can be taken from them (no movie mold was used on Botcon till now).
Let's see:
- classics seekers -> G2 seekers (Starscream and Ramjet were the only released as I remember)
- metallic gold Bumblebee and red Cliffjumper from their Classic counterparts

by **Valandar** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:19 pm

There's another few possibilities of interpretation, you know...

1 ) Characters still on Cybertron during the time the Boss Bots and Boss Cons were in stasis on Earth.

2 ) The time period between G1 Season 2 and the Movie.

3 ) An alternate timeline branching from the movie, where they didn't get Unicron destroyed until after he ate Cybertron

Etcetera, etcetera...

by **Julie85** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:22 pm

I hope this rumor is false. I'm not interested in G2, but I am definitely going to Botcon this year since I live about an hour away. So I would like the exclusives for what may be the only year I can go to Botcon to be something really really awesome.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:28 pm

Valandar wrote:There's another few possibilities of interpretation, you know...

1 ) Characters still on Cybertron during the time the Boss Bots and Boss Cons were in stasis on Earth.

2 ) The time period between G1 Season 2 and the Movie.

3 ) An alternate timeline branching from the movie, where they didn't get Unicron destroyed until after he ate Cybertron

Etcetera, etcetera...

Yes true, however my source (who predicted SDCC Blaster and others before they became known) predicts a G2 set. On his past track record I posted it as a rumour.

News Credits: 49 · by **Scaleface** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:23 pm

I'd imagine the Botcon story will be set in the same universe as Wings of Honor, but in the present day that we saw briefly in the comics that had the Battlechargers and the two G2 Decepticons fighting Nexus Prime and Aquarius. So it will be the same world, but in a different era as the club magazine comics.

by **Windsweeper** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:58 pm

What I'd like from a G2 set would be as follows:

Cybertron Starscream as Jhiaxus (A MUST!!!)

Energon Starscream as Hooligan (we already saw it in the Wings of homour comic)

Robotmasters Mirage as Double Clutch

Energon Barricade as Mindset

Classics Seeker mold in G2 Ramjet colours BUT names Slipstream (Animated SS's colours are very reminiscent of G2 Ramjet to me and it would retcon a cool new Animated character into G1/G2)

Classics Starscream in G2 colours but as a brand new Seeker character (if this was done, those of us that have the G2 Seekers would instantly have new characters as many of us will not be able to buy the Botcon set anyway)

Remold the heads on the Animated Twins to give us one of those combining Cybertronain jets

Reissue G1 Sideswipe as Firecracker (never happen but I can dream)

Energon Starscream as Smokescreen

Cybertron Thundercracker as Space Case

If as some are speculating, it's not G2 but another TF era, I'd love it to be the Actionmaster era. We've already seen Banzai-tron and Overrun in the comics. Funnily, I've always seen Micromaster Energon Devestator as the Actionmaster character because of it's size. Classics Megatron needs a head remold and repaint as Treadshot.

Then again, we've also seen Japanese exclusive characters in the Con fiction with Leozack, Hellbat and the Autobot Pretender Commander whose name escapes me.

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:46 pm

Just putting out feelers, but I may be interested in buying a few loose Botcon exclusives if they're G2. I'll be able to pick them up in person, too.

News Credits: 8 · by **LiKwid** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:13 pm

Counterpunch wrote:I expect that this will just be the G2 Stunticon release.

Agreed..That'd be fine by me... The one part that is got me worrying is the limited set number that will be produced..Will kind of eliminate those who would be on the fence about gettting them for the normal price versus the insane jacked up price..Gonna have to pull the trigger on this one fo sho'...