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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Jeddostotle7 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:02 pm

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Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:55 pm

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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Kurona » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:59 pm

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Makes sense to me, in retrospect. They're having three films over the course of three years, something they've never done before - with how expensive and time-consuming the integral CGI can be it makes sense for one of those movies to not use it. And, hence, not be live-action.
Wonder how it'll look. Think I might actually check it out if it has a pleasing aesthetic; I've always preferred animation to live-action.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Munkky » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:22 am

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Paramount are looking for a different director than Bay for the next movie

I'm predicting a slew of threads about dream directors for Transformers 6, based entirely around one or two good movies they've made recently and regardless of whether or not that director's particular style would fit Transformers or not.
While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well, I do hope this shared cinematic universe craze in Hollywood fades away sooner rather than later. Marvel are the only people who have done the formula well (and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Marvel), and every time a studio announces a shared universe of movies it only ever feels like they're jumping on a bandwagon and not much time or effort is being put in. With that said, I'm still interested in seeing Justice League and Kong: Skull Island, and I hope the Hasbro shared universe does well.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:25 am

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Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Munkky » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:35 am

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Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.

Is it? I was going by the Wikipedia page, which says TF6 will be the 2019 movie made after the Bumblebee spin-off.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Megatron Wolf » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:26 pm

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I agree that the franchises should be rebooted before this shared universe thing is started. As it stands every new movie is going to have to be based around the transformers mythos, this could complicate things especially since gijoe is already a movie series. Start from scratch and do what marvel did, make individual movies but have something linking them together so you can do a cross over.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:05 pm

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Munkky wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Munkky wrote:While I do plan to watch The Last Knight, TF6, and probably the Bumblebee movie as well,
TF6 is the Bumblebee movie.

Is it? I was going by the Wikipedia page, which says TF6 will be the 2019 movie made after the Bumblebee spin-off.
That's TF7. Sounds like someone on (the ever-unreliable) Wikipedia doesn't want to acknowledge the Bumblebee movie as being the sixth movie.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:30 pm

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Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.

So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.

I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby JazZeke » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:02 pm

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Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.

So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.

I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble

It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.

So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.

I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble

It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.

Like I said, I thought it was semi-decent. I was also 13 at the time and had no background information on it at the time. It was something fun to watch before going to bed
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby JazZeke » Tue Oct 18, 2016 11:11 pm

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
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Burn wrote:
Kurona wrote:From what I know of MASK, the Transformers movie format would be perfect for it since the main characters are actually human and hence where the focus should be (character-wise), while the transforming CGI stuff is basically just their cool mechs for the action scenes. Could be decent.

So basically the Knight Rider resurrection from a couple of years ago.

I remember that. I actually thought it was semi-decent actually, but I dabble

It was awful. It's pseudo-science was so terrible, so stupid that it would make Doctor Who roll his eyes. One time they identified a killer by scanning the residual sound waves in a room. I couldn't stand to watch it.

Like I said, I thought it was semi-decent. I was also 13 at the time and had no background information on it at the time. It was something fun to watch before going to bed

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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby TulioDude » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:44 pm

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I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 01, 2016 8:54 pm

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TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* :cry: )
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby TulioDude » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:34 pm

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TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* :cry: )

In my mind,the most likely thing would be few flashback scenes,maybe even to show something the carries to the present,and Bumblebee in the present,with him remembering or telling these events.

The talk off a bigger universe makes me feel like they wouldn't so eager to forget the other stories,at least not from here onward anyway.
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:35 pm

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TulioDude wrote:I imagine the Bumblebee spin-off being like a movie interpretation of the RID cartoon(2015),with Bumblebee forming his own team to fight a menace that lingers on Earth.
Unless it's a prequel set on Cybertron showing us how he lost his voice (*RIP Movie Prequel comics* :cry: )

In my mind,the most likely thing would be few flashback scenes,maybe even to show something the carries to the present,and Bumblebee in the present,with him remembering or telling these events.

The talk off a bigger universe makes me feel like they wouldn't so eager to forget the other stories,at least not from here onward anyway.
I don't think the filmmakers really hold much regard at all for any of the movie-based comics, since none of those comics had any bearing on the films themselves, and have all been virtually ignored by the films anyway. None of the films have ever given any acknowledgement of the comics' stories within the films' own onscreen narratives. If they wanted to, the filmmakers could easily create their own brand new backstory for how Bumblebee lost his voice that completely ignores the Movie Prequel comics, so long as it wouldn't conflict with what we've seen in the first four films.

Also, unless I'm misremembering, isn't the Bumblebee movie going to be animated?
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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

Postby TulioDude » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:08 am

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Also, unless I'm misremembering, isn't the Bumblebee movie going to be animated?

Don't know,I'm waiting for official confirmation before commenting on this.

Sabrblade wrote:I don't think the filmmakers really hold much regard at all for any of the movie-based comics, since none of those comics had any bearing on the films themselves, and have all been virtually ignored by the films anyway. None of the films have ever given any acknowledgement of the comics' stories within the films' own onscreen narratives. If they wanted to, the filmmakers could easily create their own brand new backstory for how Bumblebee lost his voice that completely ignores the Movie Prequel comics, so long as it wouldn't conflict with what we've seen in the first four films.



I don't think its the case of they looking at the comics and willingfully decide to ignore them.Its more like a lack of communication between Hasbro and the movie team.I'm not even sure they aware of these stories that bridge the gaps between films.Hasbro and its representatives could had the stance,where they wanted these stories of comics and the films to connect more into a single storyline.They were okay with the movie team working on one thing and IDW comics developing their own ideas,hence,what happened so far.

Which is why,I'm excited for the news of the next movies.They seem to be doing exactly that we're talking here for the future,taking their time between films in order to create more connected stories and a bigger universe.
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Rob Liefeld on Akiva Goldsman and Transformers, Hasbro/Paramount Shared Universe

Postby Va'al » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:37 am

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Not entirely related to the Transformers movie-verse - in fact, there is practically nothing at all here - but a new interview over on CinemaBlend with comics creator Rob Liefeld has shown how Akiva Goldsman, the producer in charge of the Writers' room that produced the scripts to be used in the upcoming The Last Knight, Bumblebee spin-off and probably more sequels after those, approached the whole shared universe of Hasbro properties. Check out the relevant snippets below!

Since 2015, Oscar-winning screenwriter Akiva Goldsman has become a big name in the world of cinematic universe franchises. In collaboration with Paramount Pictures, he not only created a braintrust that would help formulate the future of the Transformers series, but also went on to do the same thing with Hasbro and brands like G.I. Joe and ROM: Space Knight. We haven't seen an actual product from this process just yet, as none of the developing projects have made it to release -- but the methodology is continuing to spread, as the same approach that's going into the construction of the recently-announced Extreme Cinematic Universe.

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[Liefeld:] So I kind of was thinking, 'I'm going to go to this meeting and maybe I'll get a good look at some Dark Tower stuff,' and what ended up happening is he goes, 'I want to hand you this giant black leather-bound equivalent of a phone book,' and it said, "The Transformers Bible." This thing is awesome and Akiva goes, 'I just want you to know, there's only eight of these in existence. Michael Bay has one, I have one, the head of Paramount has one, and the five other people involved have them.' So I flipped through it, and it's every treatment, outlines, screenplay, for the lineup of Transformer films that they have planned, that he was a showrunner for...

So he said to me, he said, 'It's pretty cool, right? I'm like, 'Yeah!' He's like, 'I ran this room; this is what we came up with. This is what I did on behalf of Paramount.' He goes, 'In a couple months, I'm going to go run the Hasbro room, and we're going to do the same thing for ROM, Micronauts, G.I. Joe. We're going to put together this Hasbro Cinematic Universe, and then he said, I would like to do yours next. And I said, 'Uhhhhhh, Okay, WOW!'

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Postby JazZeke » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:01 am

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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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As apprehensive as I am about a Hasbro cinematic universe, this does make me feel optimistic. From how Liefeld describes it, it sounds like everything is planned, scripted and ready to go years in advance, they're not just Tauros Charging into it like DC did. This is good to hear, because this method is how I feel the development stage of a cinematic universe should be done.
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Re: Rob Liefeld on Akiva Goldsman and Transformers, Hasbro/Paramount Shared Universe

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:19 pm

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This should have been titled "Akiva Goldsman acknowledges the awesomeness that is Rob Liefeld"
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Re: Rob Liefeld on Akiva Goldsman and Transformers, Hasbro/Paramount Shared Universe

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Re: Paramount looks to expand Transformers film franchise with spin-offs and more sequels

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Burn wrote:Actually an 80's kid. Thank you for your incredibly pointless post. >:oP
It wasn't pointless. That gif means "'90s Kid approves". '90s Kid is a character on Atop the Fourth Wall who LOVES Rob Liefeld's work. Your calling Liefeld awesome is something he'd agree with, therefore he approves your post as a most righteous one.
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Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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