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Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby shockblast2 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:03 pm

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shockblast2 wrote:LOL...Amazon could not sell these for $12 shipped.

Why would Ross think they can do better? Personally, I would not give more than $5 for it.


But in a Ross, these are good aunt-bait. You know, the aunt looking for a toy for little Billy, but doesn't really know much about the things he is into.


Online stores aren't always better in reaching some people like those afraid of computers, or the ones who simply prefer brick-and-mortar out of principle (like me).

I got my eyes on the set, but they won't the Protectobots should I get them.



A Transformers fan afraid of computers? What irony.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

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shockblast2 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
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shockblast2 wrote:LOL...Amazon could not sell these for $12 shipped.

Why would Ross think they can do better? Personally, I would not give more than $5 for it.


But in a Ross, these are good aunt-bait. You know, the aunt looking for a toy for little Billy, but doesn't really know much about the things he is into.


Online stores aren't always better in reaching some people like those afraid of computers, or the ones who simply prefer brick-and-mortar out of principle (like me).

I got my eyes on the set, but they won't the Protectobots should I get them.



A Transformers fan afraid of computers? What irony.

Brick and mortar is a rat race. Online is cheaper on your time and gas.


Unless you're that little ol Grandparent that isn't too versed in online shopping.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:22 pm

Ross comes through again. Curious that they sometimes get figures and sets that the big retailers don't seem to get. It was the same with 'Solar Storm Grappel'. And, $19.99 is a pretty good price for three deluxe figures, especially these days...
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby no-one » Wed Jun 03, 2015 5:27 pm

I'm way more likely to pick this up as an impulse / instant gratification than I am to order via Amazon and then have to find something else to get free shipping. I had no idea Ross sold TF stuff. Well add that to the hunt then. Maybe they will get the Evac Squad as well.

My usual discount store haunts are TJ Maxx,Burke and Big Lots. Well way to go Ross, you just made the list.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Kyleor » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:34 pm

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Tranzilla » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:55 pm

Kyleor wrote:Ross/TJ Max/Marshalls are good for randomly having cheap Transformers (that Columbia store had AoE Voyager Hound for $9.99 and Deluxe Lockdown for $5.99) during the year and often a great selection around Christmas.


When I found the sets, they had a Voyager Hound, Deluxe Lockdown and Snarl, and Power Battlers Snarl as well as Hero Mashers Starscream and Jetfire. Unfortunately PB Snarl had a BAD stress mark on his chest plate so I passed on him. Tomorrow I hunt in the Loch Raven area.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:09 pm

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Shockwave7 wrote:Ross comes through again. Curious that they sometimes get figures and sets that the big retailers don't seem to get. It was the same with 'Solar Storm Grappel'. And, $19.99 is a pretty good price for three deluxe figures, especially these days...


too bad these arent 3 deluxe figures.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:56 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:Ross comes through again. Curious that they sometimes get figures and sets that the big retailers don't seem to get. It was the same with 'Solar Storm Grappel'. And, $19.99 is a pretty good price for three deluxe figures, especially these days...


too bad these arent 3 deluxe figures.



Really? Thot they were based on deluxe Beast Hunter Arcee, Ratchet and Prowl... Or is it legends, or a mix of deluxe and legends... Ratchet and Prowl look deluxe sized, anyway. Arcee (Groove) looks a bit runty. Could be one of their Cyberverse versions I suppose...
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:11 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:Ross comes through again. Curious that they sometimes get figures and sets that the big retailers don't seem to get. It was the same with 'Solar Storm Grappel'. And, $19.99 is a pretty good price for three deluxe figures, especially these days...


too bad these arent 3 deluxe figures.



Really? Thot they were based on deluxe Beast Hunter Arcee, Ratchet and Prowl... Or is it legends, or a mix of deluxe and legends... Ratchet and Prowl look deluxe sized, anyway. Arcee (Groove) looks a bit runty. Could be one of their Cyberverse versions I suppose...
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:11 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
Shockwave7 wrote:Ross comes through again. Curious that they sometimes get figures and sets that the big retailers don't seem to get. It was the same with 'Solar Storm Grappel'. And, $19.99 is a pretty good price for three deluxe figures, especially these days...


too bad these arent 3 deluxe figures.



Really? Thot they were based on deluxe Beast Hunter Arcee, Ratchet and Prowl... Or is it legends, or a mix of deluxe and legends... Ratchet and Prowl look deluxe sized, anyway. Arcee (Groove) looks a bit runty. Could be one of their Cyberverse versions I suppose...


Yeah its a mix. Only Ratchet and Prowl are the deluxe molds, they used the cyberverse arcee for the other one (another legends Groove haha). So its like getting the legends mold for free, not a bad deal if you dont have any of the molds.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:53 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Yeah its a mix. Only Ratchet and Prowl are the deluxe molds, they used the cyberverse arcee for the other one (another legends Groove haha). So its like getting the legends mold for free, not a bad deal if you dont have any of the molds.


At 20$, you get, for the price of ONE deluxe, another deluxe plus a legend for free! That's a great deal.

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:58 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Yeah its a mix. Only Ratchet and Prowl are the deluxe molds, they used the cyberverse arcee for the other one (another legends Groove haha). So its like getting the legends mold for free, not a bad deal if you dont have any of the molds.


At 20$, you get, for the price of ONE deluxe, another deluxe plus a legend for free! That's a great deal.

Lower than that and it's like having a hot person appearing right next to you to give a bonus free... hug?


I still think the target FOC Grimlock in G1 redeco with DOTM silver knight optimus was a better deal ;)
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

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william-james88 wrote:
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william-james88 wrote:Yeah its a mix. Only Ratchet and Prowl are the deluxe molds, they used the cyberverse arcee for the other one (another legends Groove haha). So its like getting the legends mold for free, not a bad deal if you dont have any of the molds.


At 20$, you get, for the price of ONE deluxe, another deluxe plus a legend for free! That's a great deal.

Lower than that and it's like having a hot person appearing right next to you to give a bonus free... hug?


I still think the target FOC Grimlock in G1 redeco with DOTM silver knight optimus was a better deal ;)


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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Shockwave7 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 8:12 am

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william-james88 wrote:Yeah its a mix. Only Ratchet and Prowl are the deluxe molds, they used the cyberverse arcee for the other one (another legends Groove haha). So its like getting the legends mold for free, not a bad deal if you dont have any of the molds.


At 20$, you get, for the price of ONE deluxe, another deluxe plus a legend for free! That's a great deal.

Lower than that and it's like having a hot person appearing right next to you to give a bonus free... hug?


Ross used to charge about $5.99-$6.99 for a deluxe figure (even their prices have been going up). It's been a while since I saw a deluxe figures on the shelf in Ross (or any Transformers at all lately - there's been a dearth), but I think they're around $6.99-$7.99 now. I've seen Cyberverse size figures at about $5.99.

So if you assume lowest cost, then each deluxe in the Protectobot package is 6.99, the cyberverse is 5.99, which makes the package 19.97 - about spot on with the 19.99 price tag, shy two cents. Still a good deal.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:14 am

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Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:20 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


Well, he hasnt had the best of feedback:

The toy is renowned for two significant design flaws. The first is that tabs meant to anchor the robot shoulders to the chest never solidly lock into place—they are simply too far apart. This makes his shoulder assemblies swing up and out of his chest when the shoulders are rotated up. Pressing the shoulder slots into the chest tabs sometimes works to counter this, but it depends on the tolerances of each individual figure.

The second major flaw concerns the face-swapping feature; almost universally, this does not actually end up working because the rotating faces are rendered immobile by an excess of paint on the inside of the helmet, including the post the faces are mounted on.


I personally own the doubledealer version of the mold and while the thriple changer nature of the figure is nice, I really dont like how the shoulders dont tab in, it makes him all loosey goosey. Buy him if you can find a decent deal but I wouldnt pay inflated aftermarket prices for him.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:20 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


If you like the character, go for it! Be aware though that he has two inherent design problems:

1) The shoulders won't lock in place due to improperly spaced tabs and slots
2) The face change gimmick can be hard to make work, due to excess paint on the inside of the helmet. The Japanese version fixes this issue.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 9:58 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


If you like the character, go for it! Be aware though that he has two inherent design problems:

1) The shoulders won't lock in place due to improperly spaced tabs and slots
2) The face change gimmick can be hard to make work, due to excess paint on the inside of the helmet. The Japanese version fixes this issue.


Okay thanks...
I'm probably going to pump the brakes and put this on the back burner for now.
Especially with CW stuff coming out that I want (Combaticons), and I may be getting a Unite Warriors Defensor, depending on how soon the Combaticons are released.
Not to mention, I'm very tempted to get Apollyon.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Syn_13 » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:20 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


If you like the character, go for it! Be aware though that he has two inherent design problems:

1) The shoulders won't lock in place due to improperly spaced tabs and slots
2) The face change gimmick can be hard to make work, due to excess paint on the inside of the helmet. The Japanese version fixes this issue.


I found the biggest problem with that figure to be getting the rubber nose cone to sit over his head properly. His head seems a bit too fat for it to tuck in under it without leaving little gaps. The Dr Wu upgrade helped a lot with this and with the shoulder issue. Nonetheless, I still love the figure and his alt modes look awesome.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby shajaki » Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:28 am

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If you fancy a Blitzwing and want to go the Takara route, he's on sale at both BBTS & TFsource ;)

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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:28 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


If you like the character, go for it! Be aware though that he has two inherent design problems:

1) The shoulders won't lock in place due to improperly spaced tabs and slots
2) The face change gimmick can be hard to make work, due to excess paint on the inside of the helmet. The Japanese version fixes this issue.

Oddly enough, I've had no trouble with the head gimmick on mine. The shoulder tab issue is a different story.

I picked mine up for half off at Tuesday Morning. For that price, he was absolutely worth it. I'm not a big fan of his alt modes (neither one sits together pretty well), but he looks quite intimidating in robot mode, which is how I keep him displayed.
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sowndwave76 » Sat Jun 06, 2015 6:19 am

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Hey thanks for all of the info/advice on Blitzwing... As of right now I'm not sold.
I'm getting almost all of the deluxe CW Decepticons, and the one exception right now is probably HotSpot... So I'll probably get him instead of Blitz.

On a different topic, saw this on Amazon:
Transformers Asia Kids Day Protectobots Evac Squad 2-Pack

Kinda cool... I like the old Inferno mold, just not sure of that color scheme they used!

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Asia ... 6H2VH6SNH5
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:12 am

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shajaki wrote:If you fancy a Blitzwing and want to go the Takara route, he's on sale at both BBTS & TFsource ;)

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He's also been available in B&M Stores(very cheap) & The Entertainer shops in the UK(obviously not the Takara version though! although it IS a gray import all the same)
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Stuartmaximus » Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:16 am

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Syn_13 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:Good morning,

CW has re-ignited my interest in collecting, and for the most part I'm only going after Decepticons.
So back whenever Generations Blitzwing was released, I passed on him multiple times.
I think partially because I wasn't sold on his look, and also because I had zero interest in whatever the main line was at that time.

But since I'm not going for any CW Autobots (except Hotspot), I'm considering going back and getting Blitzwing. I just checked out the gallery on this guy, but I'm still on the fence.

I'm leaning towards getting him since I don't have one in my collection.
But is he worth getting??


If you like the character, go for it! Be aware though that he has two inherent design problems:

1) The shoulders won't lock in place due to improperly spaced tabs and slots
2) The face change gimmick can be hard to make work, due to excess paint on the inside of the helmet. The Japanese version fixes this issue.


I found the biggest problem with that figure to be getting the rubber nose cone to sit over his head properly. His head seems a bit too fat for it to tuck in under it without leaving little gaps. The Dr Wu upgrade helped a lot with this and with the shoulder issue. Nonetheless, I still love the figure and his alt modes look awesome.



Same prob here...with the nosecone issue....as with Doubledealer too(as they are the same mold after all....duh...obviously).
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Re: Official Transformers Generations Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:17 am

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Sowndwave76 wrote:On a different topic, saw this on Amazon:
Transformers Asia Kids Day Protectobots Evac Squad 2-Pack

Kinda cool... I like the old Inferno mold, just not sure of that color scheme they used!

http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Asia ... 6H2VH6SNH5
Yeah, those colors are rather ill-fitting for G1 Hot Spot and G1 Blades, they are, however, more becoming of two Japanese characters that the G1 toys of Hot Spot and Blades were recolored into: Fire Chief and Fly-Up.

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