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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby alexison » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:41 am

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Waterlog looks like a goof. His head looks funny. I am so glad Hasbro is recycling the torso's in the five packs in two pack form. Heavytread still looks boss.
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Postby Searchlight » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:09 am

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Really had to do a double take when I first saw this. Looking forward to Wanker and Bollocks next.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby dragons » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:13 am

Does Hasbro really not look into names before it picks them? Nexus Maximus was bad enough but now to offend the handicapped of the UK with a name! Genius way to go!


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i think not i finally understood what deadpool meant by that :lol: bad timing though for me to get it :BANG_HEAD:

i like hasbro packageing desgin team on pcc 5 packs on package they combined form with proper hands & feet but the actual has none those features at all its to much :lol: :KREMZEEK:
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Postby adamassc » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:30 am

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I'm definately buying Undertow, Heavytread, and Skyhammer. Salvage is meh. I already have Mudslinger and I'm not too concerned about recolored minicons.

Spastic(whom I will rename Dragstrip) interests me greatly. I had intended on repainting a Leadfoot anyway, so this spares me of my horrid painting ability.
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Postby Chaoslock » Wed Nov 10, 2010 8:54 am

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I'm seeing these repaints:

Skyhammer -> Fearswoop

Heavythread->Brawl (Hardhead?)

Undertow ->Manta Ray (obvious...)
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Postby EyeOfTheTigatron » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:12 am

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Spastic = name fail
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Salvage = not a terrible repaint nice to see them using the name Bomb-burst again
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Pretender Skywarp » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:20 am

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Nope. The word isn't offensive at all in America. They'll just have to change the name for when they release it over here.


Or just skip it entirely.... :-x
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Postby kirbenvost » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:29 am

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Huh. Well it's not offensive to me, but it seems like a terrible name for a TF. :lol:

I'm disappointed Heavytread isn't more green, but I still want him. I'll probably get Undertow too, or wait for a repaint. I really like Skyhammer but I want a repaint too.
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Postby NatsumeRyu » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:51 am

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Oh dear...Am I the only one who may have noticed something else digging a trench for Spastic? That the name was paired with the leader of the Stunticons, and of course "Stunt" can be taken several ways, not the least of which I'm sure will bring only more problems, if they do surface.

And there are so many puns one could bring up right now....
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby First-Aid » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:26 am

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spastic

Read "Evolution of the term in the United States" for a better understanding of Hasbro's intentions.


I think the wiki article confuses things, because it talks about spaz being a fairly harmless word in the US. But although spaz was originally a shortening of spastic, the word spaz has evolved to mean nerdy/uncool/clumsy whereas the word spastic still refers to the disability does it not?

Anyway, I don't understand why they can't use the name Slag, which is not derogatory in the US, only really in the UK (plus in the UK it still means "molten rock/metals" as well), but they can OK the name Spastic?

Keep the name Spastic if you must, just bring back Slag!


"Slag is a pejorative slang term, primarily used in United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, New Zealand and Australia, to describe women who often engage in casual sex and promiscuous behaviour. It originally derives from the same term for piles of impurities skimmed off during the smelting of metals.

Its meaning is broadly similar to the terms "slut" and "skank", and other words used in the same manner include "slapper", "ho" and "scrubber". In Australia, the word "slurry" is also used, in this case the meaning derives from the stone slurry discharged as waste from the mining of metals."

OK, now Spastic and Slag are in the same grouping. Either Hasbro can't use either of them, or - by using Spastic- they have no argumnet against NOT using Slag.

THe more I see Undertow, the more I want him. THat is a gorgeous alt-mode...I'd really like to see him in combiner mode though. Heavytread is sick also...this looks like an overall great wave of PCCs.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby craggy » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:51 am

i'm not even going to mention my thoughts on the name thing.

the pics look mostly decent. skyhammer reminds me of armada cyclonus. Evil Boat(!) undertow looks pretty cool and i'm really liking some of those mini-con guys. salvage should be a junkion.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Windsweeper » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:54 am

So they homage Dragstrip via his colours and alt mode but don't use his name?
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:59 am

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Windsweeper wrote:So they homage Dragstrip via his colours and alt mode but don't use his name?


As evident by his Universe Special Edition figure, the "Drag Strip" trademark now requires the "Decepticon" prefix, making the full name "Decepticon Drag Strip", a tad too long for the packaging.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:16 am

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I refuse to get all up in arms over a word that offends one group of people in one specific place in the world.

I refuse to do this

1. because I refuse to pander to political correctness
2. because I'm not a narrow minded idiot.

It's pretty clear that the character is called "Spastic" due to his race car alt and team affiliation.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:03 pm

The UK has all kinds of crazy slang terms for everything. It would be impossible to avoid using them in international products.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby proximus » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:20 pm

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I really wouldn't worry about what's slang in one country and not in another. Hasbro develops this stuff for a NA audience where "spastic" isn't offensive at all. UK may get it renamed, perhaps not at all. It happens. Here in Canada we get tons of BBC broadcasts that leave us saying "how can they say that on TV?" but then again it isn't marketed to us is it?

Case in point, I teach first aid and all our gear for lifeguards is kept in a fanny pack. Imagine the look of horror on my international students when I told them to stuff their gloves in there.
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Postby Windsweeper » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:31 pm

Nice to know how insensitive some people are to the beliefs of others.

I've been wanting a Scout version of Dragstrip for years and when it finally looks like we're getting one, they give it that stupid name.

Nothing worse than an obvious homage that's given a different name to the character being homaged.
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Sky-Quake » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:36 pm

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Skyhammer and Undertow are must haves I may just get spastic just because I can call him spaz for short
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Postby DISCHARGE » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:50 pm

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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby Counterpunch » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:55 pm

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Windsweeper wrote:Nice to know how insensitive some people are to the beliefs of others.

I've been wanting a Scout version of Dragstrip for years and when it finally looks like we're getting one, they give it that stupid name.

Nothing worse than an obvious homage that's given a different name to the character being homaged.


I agree that the name is lame, but it's unlikely that they would call him Dragstrip anyway.

As for the sensitivity thing? Where does it end? One group of people objects to a slang use of a perfectly acceptable word out of the numerous other meanings and uses the word has, in one country of the world, referring to a small group of people...

The name Megatron is a reference to Mega-ton explosions. Maybe the Japanese should complain about that...

Maybe military vets should complain about children having a toy named "Bombshock".
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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:01 pm

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I agree. 'Political correctness' goes way too far sometimes. In some workplaces you're not even allowed to wish someone 'Merry Christmas' anymore, because it might offend them. People need to suck it up and stop being so damned offended by everything. Are we going to stop calling hot dogs 'weiners' because of the obvious slang connotations? I don't think so. Obviously Hasbro wasn't paying attention here, but it's not that big of a deal. It's just a toy with a stupid name, that you can buy over the internet and rename yourself in case they decide not to release it in the name of political correctness.
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Postby Counterpunch » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:02 pm

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Re: Official/In-Package Images of PCC Spastic w/ Stunticons, Salvage w/ Bombburst, Undertow w/ Waterlog

Postby kirbenvost » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:40 pm

Motto: "Deal with it."
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Personally, with the way the front of the tank becomes the chest, he feels like more of a Brawl homage - which fits in with the established pattern of the PCCs aping existing combiner groups.


True. Makes more sense for the vehicle mode anyway. But I'll stick with Guzzle for the 'bot mode since I'm not a big fan of Movie Brawl. ;)

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Hasbro, if you've read this comment, please go with the second option and make him a deluxe figure. Please?


Nah, what they need to do is make him a large Scout, but put him a Deluxe box so they can A) make more money, but more importantly give him that half-mile tank barrel of his.
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