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[MrGameAndToy]

Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.

Up in Canada, the prices are around $17 a deluxe and $30 for a voyager. The prices are not equivalent to the US. To me, living in Canada, the price increase is minimal. These ARE Canadian listings after all.
(17+17+17+30+30=111) So really, it is much less of a difference than you think. The cost of paint, the packaging, and the sheer fact that this is a Platinum Edition set all bump up the price a little.

[bassal]

Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.

Up in Canada, the prices are around $17 a deluxe and $30 for a voyager. The prices are not equivalent to the US. To me, living in Canada, the price increase is minimal. These ARE Canadian listings after all.
(17+17+17+30+30=111) So really, it is much less of a difference than you think. The cost of paint, the packaging, and the sheer fact that this is a Platinum Edition set all bump up the price a little.

$111? That's an interesting price...

[noctorro]

Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.

Here here,

[bassal]

Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.

Here here,

You mean "Hear, hear" right?

[megatronus]

Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.

I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps.

[Sabrblade]

I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps.

They are not "mass" retail items, though. They are limited edition retail exclusives being sold by only one or two stores (the fact that one of them turned out to be Kmart of all things is beyond belief), and have been giving all the same bells and whistles that BotCon and SDCC exclusives get and which standard mass retail figures do not get. That extra pizzazz doesn't come cheap.

[megatronus]

I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps.

They are not "mass" retail items, though. They are limited edition retail exclusives being sold by only one or two stores (the fact that one of them turned out to be Kmart of all things is beyond belief), and have been giving all the same bells and whistles that BotCon and SDCC exclusives get and which standard mass retail figures do not get. That extra pizzazz doesn't come cheap.

Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are. It's like how we see a Takara MP reissue just when a Hasbro MP releases. The deco might differ and add some additional cost, but it's not like the actual production of the mold was limited for the purpose of these sets. That by and large has a bigger effect on cost than a premium deco does.

Please, please get it into your head that this is NOT Botcon, which is being run by TFCC and necessitates higher price points by sheer nature of exclusivity and cost. And this isn't SDCC 2014, where more exclusive 4-packs with more expensive decos, add-ins, and packaging cost not much more than some of these sets will cost at retail.

You can bring up Botcon or SDCC all you want, but it's apples and oranges. Just because these molds have premium decos does not mean they should cost as much as convention exclusives. I don't mind ambivalence to high prices, but your blind defense of them, and odd suppression of those who grimace at the price tag, doesn't just seem elitist, but is, in the truest sense of the word, elitist. And when it comes to retail product, mass or not, that's not cool in my book.

[Autobot032]

A fellow fan, by the name of Jeremy Boutwell, has shared a link to his video review of the Wal*Mart Exclusive Decepticon Stinger (Legion/Legends Class) and Dinobot Slug (Deluxe Class) 2-Pack, on our Facebook page. Consisting of a redeco of the Legends Class ROTF Sideways figure and a redeco (and faction change!) of Beast Wars Neo Guiledart, the set is affordable at it's current price of $14.88 and it's available now at most Wal*Mart stores across the country.

Check out the video review below:



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[Sabrblade]

Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are.

According to what, exactly?

Please, please get it into your head that this is NOT Botcon, which is being run by TFCC and necessitates higher price points by sheer nature of exclusivity and cost. And this isn't SDCC 2014, where more exclusive 4-packs with more expensive decos, add-ins, and packaging cost not much more than some of these sets will cost at retail.

And Hasbro itself isn't allowed to also create high-end uber expensive exclusives in the vein of convention exclusives on its own?

You can bring up Botcon or SDCC all you want, but it's apples and oranges. Just because these molds have premium decos does not mean they should cost as much as convention exclusives. I don't mind ambivalence to high prices, but your blind defense of them, and odd suppression of those who grimace at the price tag, doesn't just seem elitist, but is, in the truest sense of the word, elitist. And when it comes to retail product, mass or not, that's not cool in my book.

Why should Hasbro be obligated to give us only affordable goods and be forbidden to once in a while try its own take on the same variety of expensive collector grade items as seen with convention exclusives?

[bassal]

To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

[Va'al]

The repaint trend continues, with another video review by fellow Seibertronian grimdragon2001, who was able to find a Walmart exclusive two-pack Transformers: Age of Extinction Grimlock and Optimus Prime! This is the one featuring the Energon Cruellock repaint for the Dinobot leader, and a redeco of Revenge of the Fallen Legends Class Optimus Prime. Check it out below.

[-Kanrabat-]

For that Walmart Exclusive Basic Grimlock and Optimus set:

That video reviewer is not really good, camera wise. I couldmt see shayt for Grimmy's transformation and hyis hands are always in the way when he try to show something. Nevertheless, I've seen enough to want the set. Mainly because I don't have that energon dino mold. If the price is roughly that of a deluxe and if I can find it in stores, I would defenitely buy it.

[Sabrblade]

To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.

[megatronus]

Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are.

According to what, exactly?

This is my inference based on how companies make money generally, and the specific evidence we've seen with Hasbro & Takara's shared MP production runs. Those measures cut costs, and I see no reason why Hasbro wouldn't share production runs with Takara or the mainline figures. Especially with premium sets that cost more anyway. Is that thinking really a stretch?

And Hasbro itself isn't allowed to also create high-end uber expensive exclusives in the vein of convention exclusives on its own?

Why should Hasbro be obligated to give us only affordable goods and be forbidden to once in a while try its own take on the same variety of expensive collector grade items as seen with convention exclusives?

I never said Hasbro shouldn't create high end items. Just the opposite - they should, and I think these Platinum sets are great.

That said, you bring up the fact that convention exclusives exist as if that's a justification for bloated retail prices... and it's a completely different situation. What I don't get are people complaining about the high cost or limited availability of convention exclusives - if you want the exclusive, go to the convention. But these are retail products, and I think it's flawed to apply convention logic here, even if these products are retailer exclusives. I have no problem paying a slight premium for a premium product, but I still don't understand how a large premium (which I will still pay) is somehow defensible just because things cost more at conventions. What??

If this is just an agree to disagree thing, fine. But that's my position.

[megatronus]

To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

I see what you did there!

There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.

Indeed! And for that I am thankful.

[User897]

The Optimus Prime with trailer looks like that nasty-ass, stubby First Edition version, so that's an easy pass. I wouldn't mind having some of the others, but since they are in multipacks with figures that I DON'T want, Hasbro gets no money from me. Again.

[bassal]

To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

I see what you did there!

There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.

Indeed! And for that I am thankful.

Yay! Someone who got the really hidden pun!

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I don't know for how long this has been up, but:

Lost Age Series LA13 Battle Attack Nemesis Prime

A Nemesis repaint of Power Attacker Optimus Prime. And I see s many yays and cringes

[Va'al]

Fellow Transformers fan Rubin Kumar from Malaysia was able to find, purchase and take some photos of the Transformers: Age of Extinction Platinum Edition two-pack Optimus Prime and Grimlock, each figure being a redeco of their respective Leader Class figures. Check out the images he sent us below from te Aeon Seremban 2 shopping mall in Seremban, Negeri Sembilan, and make sure to flag up any sightings of your own in the appropriate section and forums!

[RhA]

The AOE toyline is starting to reek of desparation.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

The AOE toyline is starting to reek of desparation.

Well it is already half-way in, if we're to believe it'll end within the year.

I wouldn't mind getting this set even tough it'll be quite pricey in-store.

[OptimalOptimus2]

These are one of the few Transformers AOE toys that make sense along with Drift and that Breakout Battle Optimus Prime.

[chuckdawg1999]

I don't know for how long this has been up, but:

Lost Age Series LA13 Battle Attack Nemesis Prime

A Nemesis repaint of Power Attacker Optimus Prime. And I see s many yays and cringes

I like it but my review of the regular release is kinda dying off in views so I'm not sure if I'll get it.

[Autobot032]

Transformers Colombia, a Facebook fan page, has provided the first official in and out of package images of the upcoming Age Of Extinction G1 Deco Voyager Slog, courtesy of group member Felipe León Nájera. Slog is an Amazon.com exclusive and can be preordered here. (His release date is scheduled for December 15th, but dates are not always set in stone.)

Slog shares the same deco as the G1 Dinobot set from this years San Diego Comic Con. You can see more of that set here.

You can see the regular retail release in our always detailed, always awesome figure galleries, by clicking right here!

We've mirrored the updated images below:







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[megatronus]

1. I'm very, very excited for these Platinum sets. That Platinum Leader Grimlock is the best of the bunch, I think.

2. G1-deco Slog looks awesome! Can't wait for Amazon to ship him out.