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by **ThunderZap** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:14 am

Wes Crayon wrote:I'm really digging these character designs... they need to hurry up and get the figures on the shelves already!

agreed

News Credits: 70 · by **Sideshow Sideswipe** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:01 am

I likes the transformers A LOT i likes the teen titans A LITTLE. this is the TEEN TRANSTITANSFORMERS.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:18 am

Damn, Megatron is huge. And Bulkhead could really use some serious treadmill time. This wil be...mmmm...interesting.

News Credits: 1 · by **Silent_Magnus** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:26 am

I guess the only thing I don't really like is Optimus's face.
Is this the second optimus with a nose? The first being Machine Wars OPtimus.

I'm going to have to get used to it.

by **Jazz-935** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:26 am

Love it

by **AxiomScion** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:45 am

Ploptimus Prime wrote:prime's face looks like crap. His torso is too skinny as well. Too "anime".

well if it were Gundam "anime" i'ld be droolong.

Still i liked Teen Titan's art style more than this one.

I'm with Silent_Magnus here, i'm not quiting the toon yet; Slag, i sat through all of Cybs after realizing i didn't like it :shock:

But I'm happy for those of you who'll enjoy this stuff. I hope i do too.

by **microclone** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 6:53 am

i saw bits and pieces of the AEC trilogy (actualy i never saw any of the armada which was drawn)but found nothing to like, it just seemed so souless esp with the animation. The new animation is immediately more engaging, i so much prefer real animation to those god awful CGI models.

by **Jaw Crusher** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:06 am

microclone wrote:i saw bits and pieces of the AEC trilogy (actualy i never saw any of the armada which was drawn)but found nothing to like, it just seemed so souless esp with the animation. The new animation is immediately more engaging, i so much prefer real animation to those god awful CGI models.

For hand-drawn, Armada didn't look this good. IMO the reason the animation here seems more engaging is BECAUSE of its relative simplicity, like Timm's DCAU. The TF can actually MOVE for the first time in a TF show since Beast Machines, and you can actually see them get from Point A to Point B instead of just some cheap cut to a still-frame shot of them smacking each other, or even cruddy CGI models that just saunter around during what's supposed to a fight scene. I hate that sh**.

Even though I've still seen better animation these days - The Batman, for one - as a TF show goes, this is looking better than what we've been getting IMHO.

by **Talon523** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:12 am

I don't like the designs but I do like the animation. It is a much higher quality than Armada was. Transformers look great when they are drawn. I will def give this a chance.

by **ShockUzer** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:30 am

Oh, no¡ Will be appear long duration transforms?

News Credits: 3 · by **Kayevcee** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:02 am

"Megatron asking about hte allspark just, at least to me, sounds like a ploy to cash in on the popularity of the movie"

They're doing a continuity-restart off the back of a live-action movie that made eleventy bazillion dollars and a toy line that sells out faster than their factories can make it, and you DIDN'T think they'd use familiar story elements from the film in the new show? I suppose you're right in a literal sense- it is cashing in on the new movie. I wouldn't call it a 'ploy', however, so much as simple common sense.

The new animation doesn't look quite as fluid as the Comicon reel, but it's still streets ahead of the last three series. If the writing is up to much, it could be a fun ride. Perhaps not as cosmic as we're used to, but if the series continues past the first 26 episodes there'll be plenty of time for that.

-Nick

by **Sam's Happy Time** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:18 am

Call me crazy - but I really like it, This may be the most innovative take on TF since Beast Wars.

Oh, Sure, I'm still an obsessive G1 Die-Hard ‘Bot Head, but I'm excited about this show and toy line! :grin:

News Credits: 2 · by **Tusko** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:29 am

I'm glad there is something I can watch with my nephews. Bring it on.

by **Pyrostrata** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:35 am

I saw the clip. Heard some of the audio. Was, thus far, not impressed. I will, however, offer it a chance. Am not expecting the best, though.

News Credits: 7 · by **Dragonslayer** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:37 am

Not bad, really. Theme song's pretty good, animation looks good, still not too happy about the way the characters look, but I can deal with that. Kaye sounds pretty good as a "younger" Optimus.

I'll give it a shot :grin:

by **Venom Phoenix** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:42 am

Ugh horrible. I think this is worse than what everyone says Micheal Bay did to Transformers. Even worse the storyline is based on the movie and Allspark so now you have everything in the movie except even crappier.

News Credits: 4 · by **zatara1701** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:44 am

All I can say is....El Sucko!!!

I don't want my memories and thoughts of Transformers to be tarnished by this P.O.S.

I know we want to continue the idea and brand to a new generation, and I am by no means a G1 only fanantic... but this looks like some bastard conception from the creators of Teen Titans (hate it) and the Batman (hate it too). There is a point when animation can be TOO stylized.

My biggest issues... Prime's face and voice. That's enough to kill it for me, but then you add in the crappy animation that's styled to look LIKE anime but it's not.

I'll buy a toy or two but this looks like a big, steamy plate of crap to me.

News Credits: 767 · by **Dead Metal** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:47 am

WOW That's kinda badass!
I mean look at Megatron emerging, I'm gonna like this, I'm sorry for calling it crap before and Starscream looks read and gray after all.

News Credits: 1 · by **Silent_Magnus** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:57 am

zatara1701 wrote:All I can say is....El Sucko!!!

I don't want my memories and thoughts of Transformers to be tarnished by this P.O.S.

How will this tarnish your memories?

It's not like hasbro and CN are going to get into some time machine and destroy the past.

And for those ripping on Armada's animation.
Remember that the US footage was rushed, because Cartoon Network was impatient and wanted it on air as soon as possible.

News Credits: 2 · by **backpack** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:09 am

"TEENFORMERS! Robots in disguise" all jokes aside, I'm lovin this

by **Ramrider** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:23 am

Sam's Happy Time wrote:Call me crazy - but I really like it, This may be the most innovative take on TF since Beast Wars.

Oh, Sure, I'm still an obsessive G1 Die-Hard ‘Bot Head, but I'm excited about this show and toy line!

Room in that there loony-bin for me too?

I've been starting to look forward to this since the second or third infodump we got, and it's getting better all the time.

I just watched this, along with a couple of other clips it linked to, and it's got a lot going for it. I like the fluidity of the animation compared to recent series, and the ditching of cut-sequence transformations is a pretty big plus - nice to see them converting in situ again!

I'm looking forward to seeing exactly how the Decepticons fit in. It appears that there are going to be significantly less Decepticons shown, overall, than the Autobots, and that they'll appear less often; this is supposed to make them more of a 'big bad' rather than an everyday threat. I like this a lot. If there's so few of them, however, I'm wondering how much of a threat each individual Decepticon must be... :shock:

I'm still not a fan of the cartoon-form designs in stills (the toys look cool), but it works in motion, which frankly is the important part.
I also just saw Bumblebee grow a faceplate, which made me grin like this... :grin:

News Credits: 26 · by **Wheeljack35** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:20 am

I likes Megs voice

by **SnipeShade** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:16 am

eh... well the most mature thing to do would be to wait and hold judgement until we actually see the show. : ) So no bad words from me. Doesn't mean I can't pick fun at Prime and Screamer's chin tho.

I hope the Autobots notice the chin of SS and make fun of him too. <3 Then I'd really love the cartoon. LOL.

News Credits: 11 · by **kirbenvost** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:55 am

Ploptimus Prime wrote:prime's face looks like crap. His torso is too skinny as well. Too "anime".

For the bazillionth time, Transformers always HAS been anime, except for Beast Wars and the Bay movie. Animated by Japanese studios, with anime elements, even if the TF's themselves were CG (Cybertron). If anything, this new series is LESS anime than any before, because it's being made in the US and based on American styles of animation, which does mimic anime in some ways, but seems to lack some of the better qualities of anime (such as realism and maturity).

Sorry, I had to get that out, because it annoys the hell out of me every time someone complains about TFs being 'too anime'.

Now, on to my reaction:

I couldn't listen to the audio (I'm in the office), but it actually does look promising. Pre-earth Prime is hideous though, images of his Earth mode are a lot better. I don't think I like the inexperienced personality, but we'll see.

Watching this, I kind of got the same nostalgia feeling which harkened back to the G1 days, despite the art style. Perhaps this series will be largely story-driven like Beast Wars, versus just being showcase to sell the toys like the past 3 series. I'm also glad to hear there will be an updated version of the old theme!

Megatron was quite menacing, I like it. And Behold! Non-blue Starscream!

by **dasbear** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:48 pm

Transformers animation used to be cutting edge like Beast Wars, Beast Machines (its apex in Tech and Style), Hell even Gen One was really different for its time, the Car Robot animation really took a huge step back, everything after that seemed to be in the style of its time. It seems they are trying to keep up.