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EntertainmentEarth has updated it's pre-order page with new official images of Wave 2 Power Core Combiners: Rallybots with Doubleclutch and Destructicons with Mudslinger. Check out the new images and links below!

Rallybots with Doulbeclutch



Mudslinger with Destructicons



Stay tuned as more images are expected to surface throughout the day.

These two look way better than the previous two.

I'll get 'em

Rallybots don't look too bad. Need to see official product photos before making my decision to get 'em. These photoshoped pics can be deceiving to make any fig. look good.

Mkall wrote:These two look way better than the previous two.

I'll get 'em

I'm still on the fence. Doubleclutch, when combined looks a lot like Zig Zag. I think it'll be a case of how they look in hand over how they look in an official image which we all know look 100% better then in rear life.

This is looking good, with the exception of the arielbots styled combiner, these are all looking rather awesome and I think I'll have to grab them when I see them. They'll probably be about the same price as a voyager size toy right?

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:This is looking good, with the exception of the arielbots styled combiner, these are all looking rather awesome and I think I'll have to grab them when I see them. They'll probably be about the same price as a voyager size toy right?

$20 is the MSRP for the five packs.

I really like PCC quite a bit.

Hmmm, I like these a lot better then the aerialbots and combaticon PCC. Definitely looking forward to seeing this non photoshopped, but so far so good.

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:This is looking good, with the exception of the arielbots styled combiner, these are all looking rather awesome and I think I'll have to grab them when I see them. They'll probably be about the same price as a voyager size toy right?

A little more then a deluxe, but less then a voyager.

In Canada I think they'll be around $20.

Nothing against them but surelly i will not buy any powercore combiners. I will only have the mutch more expensive upgrade for Universe Bruticus them any of this combiners.

I dunno, unless they look significantly better in larger pics, I think I can pass on all of these, and maybe the entire line. Need to save money for Generations.

It might just be me, but Double Clutch looks Omnibot inspired. Like he has aspects of all three to a degree. Oh well, looks better than the otehrs.

The lack of real hands and the goofy faces ruin PCC's for me.

I'm sorry, I just don't understand how you can have Transformers that don't turn into robots. I don't see how you can have any sort of fiction that would give the non-robot vehicles any personality other than being talking cars... which is pretty lame.

The other way is to have them as "drone" units... but that means you'll have at least 4 drones taking up space on screen... who do nothing and have no personality.

Don't get me wrong--I think the concept is neat toy wise and all... but I don't see any "good" fiction coming out of this. I fear they'll go the whole "human driver" way and we'll have some sort of Power Rangers crud.

Back in the 1980s, combiners were individual robots. Yes, they were bricks, but this is 25 years later. We know about ball sockets and stuff.

Put your vote with your money.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't understand how you can have Transformers that don't turn into robots. I don't see how you can have any sort of fiction that would give the non-robot vehicles any personality other than being talking cars... which is pretty lame.

The other way is to have them as "drone" units... but that means you'll have at least 4 drones taking up space on screen... who do nothing and have no personality.

Don't get me wrong--I think the concept is neat toy wise and all... but I don't see any "good" fiction coming out of this. I fear they'll go the whole "human driver" way and we'll have some sort of Power Rangers crud.

Back in the 1980s, combiners were individual robots. Yes, they were bricks, but this is 25 years later. We know about ball sockets and stuff.

Put your vote with your money.

It's entirely possible that only the scout will be an individual and the other four will be considered armour only...a bit like Menasor's car breastplate. If there is fiction surrounding these characters I strongly suspect the parts will just magically appear from subspace.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't understand how you can have Transformers that don't turn into robots. I don't see how you can have any sort of fiction that would give the non-robot vehicles any personality other than being talking cars... which is pretty lame.

The other way is to have them as "drone" units... but that means you'll have at least 4 drones taking up space on screen... who do nothing and have no personality.

Don't get me wrong--I think the concept is neat toy wise and all... but I don't see any "good" fiction coming out of this. I fear they'll go the whole "human driver" way and we'll have some sort of Power Rangers crud.

Back in the 1980s, combiners were individual robots. Yes, they were bricks, but this is 25 years later. We know about ball sockets and stuff.

Put your vote with your money.

I was gonna praise these new toys til you pointed that out...non transformable parts? this aint Voltron.

Oh yes. Oooooh yes. OOOOOOOOH YES!!!



@Black Bumblebee: They are drone units. Mindless, unthinking, and to be used by their assigned leader (the robot forming the chest) as remote-controlled extensions, extra firepower and combiner limbs (coming from Cloudburst and Bombshock's bios). Toy bios aside, I don't think they're going to expand on PCCs with cartoons. You only need fear 'Transformers: Prime' doing said 'human-driver' thingy IMO.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't understand how you can have Transformers that don't turn into robots. I don't see how you can have any sort of fiction that would give the non-robot vehicles any personality other than being talking cars... which is pretty lame.

The other way is to have them as "drone" units... but that means you'll have at least 4 drones taking up space on screen... who do nothing and have no personality.

Don't get me wrong--I think the concept is neat toy wise and all... but I don't see any "good" fiction coming out of this. I fear they'll go the whole "human driver" way and we'll have some sort of Power Rangers crud.

Back in the 1980s, combiners were individual robots. Yes, they were bricks, but this is 25 years later. We know about ball sockets and stuff.

Put your vote with your money.

I forget that most of the fandom DOESN'T get the TFclub newsletter.

The story behind PCC is that they precede Gestalt technology and is actually a lost concept only until recently re-discovered via the Matrix and some human ingenuity. So these characters are NOT the same Aerialbot teams/Combaticon teams that we know of. This PCC tech enables the "commander" to control their drones and also download some of their personality into each drone, letting them effectively be in 5 places at one time. I wasn't thrilled with the look of them either, but the story behind them makes sense to me. So yes, gestalt combiners do exist and this is just another type of combiner in the TF lore.

That's the "short-ram-down-your-throat" version.

Black Bumblebee wrote:I'm sorry, I just don't understand how you can have Transformers that don't turn into robots. I don't see how you can have any sort of fiction that would give the non-robot vehicles any personality other than being talking cars... which is pretty lame.

The other way is to have them as "drone" units... but that means you'll have at least 4 drones taking up space on screen... who do nothing and have no personality.

Don't get me wrong--I think the concept is neat toy wise and all... but I don't see any "good" fiction coming out of this. I fear they'll go the whole "human driver" way and we'll have some sort of Power Rangers crud.

Back in the 1980s, combiners were individual robots. Yes, they were bricks, but this is 25 years later. We know about ball sockets and stuff.

Put your vote with your money.

I'm totally OK with drone units.

In fact, I think it makes a lot of sense.

If the Transformers transform into stuff on Cybertron, it stands to reason that they would transform into items that are common. Since there are no people on Cybertron, but the transformers commonly transform into vehicles, I would think that what they would be transforming into would be the guise of lesser "drone" type robots.

If that's not the case, the whole robots in disguise thing doesn't make a lot of sense on their own home world.

Starscream: Look it's Optimus!
Optimus: Oh $#!+ (runs around a corner & transforms)
Starscream: He's gone! Nothing but this big red & blue truck looking thing. Where could he have disappeared to so quickly?

Yea, just not buying that.

These PCC drones would be akin to us humans using remote-controlled robotic drones for 1)bomb-defusing, 2)exploring hazardous environments like volcanoes and 3)blowing up terrorists. Factor in the Cybertronian civil war, and the loss of several drones in a scouting mission is more acceptable than, say, the deaths of a team of Autobot/Decepticon fighters.

What if these drones arn't actually transformers at all, but rather regular vehicles that the core robot can somehow attach to their body? I don't know, via a special Allspark touch or something? We've already seen the Allspark give life to earth technology, and the blue blocks on the combiner cores do look allspark-ish, so....

The tiny bit of fiction they've gave us so far might seem to contradict that a little, but who knows what they'll come up with.

Liftgate wrote:What if these drones arn't actually transformers at all, but rather regular vehicles that the core robot can somehow attach to their body? I don't know, via a special Allspark touch or something? We've already seen the Allspark give life to earth technology, and the blue blocks on the combiner cores do look allspark-ish, so....

The tiny bit of fiction they've gave us so far might seem to contradict that a little, but who knows what they'll come up with.

Nope, backstory has them as drones created specifically for PCC bots.

They had the option to go with the faulty Gestalt process or stay as incomplete individual bots. From what I understand, this will be very natural for them to be linked up via PCC style.

It's an interesting step Hasbro's taking, and I have to say I'm getting more and more excited for these the more they're releasing images.

Also, the Rallybots vaguely remind me of those Road Kaiser and Puzzler combiners I'll never own...

Reminds me of Puzzler for some reason.

Looks fairly interesting. The Drone angle is not too bad.

Hhhhhhhhhhhellyeah! These guys just keep getting better. I think the rallybots must be the best looking combined mode so far, what with the slightly-more-realistic limbs and un-gorillla-like proportions. I. Love. P. C. C.

Prime Evil,

the fiction you're referring to is only a couple paragraphs long and says very little. It also says that "commanders are also often given control of a specially constructed team of drone vehicles", which is kinda ambiguous and leaves the door open to what I suggested. It says *often* given control, so what are they using when they arn't? This is just a thought, there is nothing to back up, or completely dismiss the idea yet.