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AMX wrote:Leader class was 12" tall or taller right?
Voyager is 6" or taller
Deluxe is less then 6"
Scouts or FAB are 2" or maybe a bit higher.

Does this all sound right?

the FAB jazz I saw at Wal-Mart was probably like 5"

Brawl is right for leader class and Blackout is right for Voyager class.

Sure their scales aren't 100% correct for display purposes, but it works better for play value.

It would be hard to play with a leader-sized helicopter, but a good leader-sized tank is long overdue.

Optimus Frimal wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Grate find Frimal. Now I'll be getting 3 versions of this guy! So he's like 2 mins in the movie but gets a leaderclass toy self? Nice

He only has two minutes of screen time?

Nobody knows for sure, sure he's a lesser character with probably not that much screen time, but I'm sure he'll be in the movie for more than two minutes.

No way ILM would spend hundreds of man hours developing a complex CGI model of a TF that is in the movie for so short a time.

Lord Crump wrote:It's nice, but also kinda meh. While that look looks brilliant on the deluxe version, you kinda expect more detail and moving parts with a leader class figure.

Have to wonder if the "meh" is more related to a bad pub photo as opposed to a bad figure...I'll hold judgement.

Da Dumm da da da da dum! TEQUILLA!

Dear go.. i want that.

I´m alos getting a second deluxe brawl and covert him into warpath

I like one of the sig pics on that site...there's one of MP Prime putting a serious beatdown of Transmetal 2 Megs.

I could really care less about Brawl. I want the Bee!

he looks... amputated.. BB that is

Skowl wrote:

Optimus Frimal wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Grate find Frimal. Now I'll be getting 3 versions of this guy! So he's like 2 mins in the movie but gets a leaderclass toy self? Nice

He only has two minutes of screen time?

Nobody knows for sure, sure he's a lesser character with probably not that much screen time, but I'm sure he'll be in the movie for more than two minutes.

No way ILM would spend hundreds of man hours developing a complex CGI model of a TF that is in the movie for so short a time.

The 2mins were ment sarcaly, since we haven't seen him jet, just one tank and the toys.

AMX wrote: Leader class was 12" tall or taller right?
Voyager is 6" or taller
Deluxe is less then 6"
Scouts or FAB are 2" or maybe a bit higher.

Does this all sound right?

Kind of.

Mini-cons are about 1.5" high generally.
Legends are about 3".
Basics are 4-4.5".
Deluxes tend to be 5-6", with a couple being taller.
Voyagers are usually about 7" and more bulky than deluxes.
Ultras vary but usually end up about 8".
Leaders tend to be around 10" and Supremes 13-16".

It often surprises me to see modern Leader toys stand eye-to-eye with '86 Metroplex. I could have sworn that thing was massive when I was a kid... oh right.

-Nick

What's different? (DBesides size, duh!)

Hairball178 wrote:I like one of the sig pics on that site...there's one of MP Prime putting a serious beatdown of Transmetal 2 Megs.

not so sure about the beatdown. looks more like he's caressing a pet.

Ultimate Bumblebee's robot mode looks like fail due to massive car parts hanging off it.

And how many Leaders can they possibly make? Isn't that price point called 'LEADER' for a reason?

Ultimate Bumblebee is so bulky because he's animatronic and plays music. The hands look amazing, but that's hardly a reason to get a Transformer.

IF I get these (cause Hasbro is just planning on draining our wallets this summer) I believe I'm just gonna keep them boxed. That is unless I just wait till clearance time and see if I can double up.

Kayevcee wrote:

AMX wrote: Leader class was 12" tall or taller right?
Voyager is 6" or taller
Deluxe is less then 6"
Scouts or FAB are 2" or maybe a bit higher.

Does this all sound right?

Kind of.

Mini-cons are about 1.5" high generally.
Legends are about 3".
Basics are 4-4.5".
Deluxes tend to be 5-6", with a couple being taller.
Voyagers are usually about 7" and more bulky than deluxes.
Ultras vary but usually end up about 8".
Leaders tend to be around 10" and Supremes 13-16".

It often surprises me to see modern Leader toys stand eye-to-eye with '86 Metroplex. I could have sworn that thing was massive when I was a kid... oh right.

-Nick

G1 Metroplex and Skyfire where equil in height, at 12 inches.

Ultimate Bumblebee detailing is outstanding... Again, bar the head I am very impressed, and would seriously consider a purchase. Saying that however and doing it are two different things, Im guessing he will have a price of around AU$160 or even more, which is far too much.

This is the first Movie toy that I feel the robot mode looks better than the alt mode. For an Ultimate level, the alt mode looks like cheap plastic with gaudy seams, which detracts from the toy. The robot mode on the other hand has a lot of detail.

right, i've been willing to give this movie a go, and the toys too (ultimate bumblebee still looks ace), but i've just opened my peview figures of Prime and 'Scream, and i'm sorry, but they are a pile of $#!T. They are utter junk! If you think there is anything redeemable in them, there must be something wrong with you! Starscream broke in two in my hands while i was trying to transform him, and when i had them both transformed, they looked even worse that the most pointless bos ever - rocklords! I want to give this movie and figs all i can, but i can't - they are $#!T designs and even $#!TT3R toys - Brawl looks like a piece of (R@P, and if you are any kind of TF fan, you'll agree with me. Bot wise, the only one i'd go near is Blackout, maybe Prime (if it was purely mouthshield up). The rest are rubbish, and you must see that - Barricade's arms are the ENTIRE side of the car?

I'm sorry - i guess i just miss the days when 'bots had character and actually looked decent in both forms - these toys suck big time.
I feel so ripped off over these preview figs - if you have not bought them yet, please for the love of god do not - they are terrible.

I know Bay left Hasbro screwed toy wise on these designs...... I'm just absolutely gutted, and I feel sorry for the next generation of TF toy collectors......

..... rant over......

still love my TF brethren...

Brawl suffers from the same thing Leader class cyb Starscream did, he's just a bigger version of an existing figure. No real difference, just bigger.

BB looks like ass, an overpriced and ugly ass.

wow. a giant brawl fugure. pass.

Skowl wrote:

GetterDragun wrote:I'd really like to see a Leader Class BoneCrusher.

You and me both, but hopefully that rumoured Voyager Bonecrusher will come to fruition soon.

Add me to this list as I would love to see him as well.

Thank You, Hasbro... Not to long ago I asked for more leader class figures after prime and megs.

I finally win something.

Greed wrote:Brawl suffers from the same thing Leader class cyb Starscream did, he's just a bigger version of an existing figure. No real difference, just bigger.

Actually, if you really take the time to look at the picture, you'll see it's not the same toy at all.

Look, his legs are bent, yet his feet are straight, which means he has balljointed feet like the Leader Prime. He looks to have moveable fingers and better paint apps. The angle of his head suggests some movement, which is already more than the Leader Megatron toy... He has an extra cannon on the side, and his sculpting job is generally better.

Remember, this is just one photo, and it's a stock photo no less, they're always in awful poses and usually mistransformed. I'm sure once we get some really good photos of this guy - the actual toy, no stock photos - fans will be trampling each other for this one.