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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:52 pm

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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby william-james88 » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:02 pm

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AllNewSuperRobot wrote:25th anniversary? Has it really been that long since Hasbro actually did something brand new with Transformers???


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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:28 pm

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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Bumblevivisector » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:13 pm

I wasn't expecting the 'if Geoff Senior drew Animated' aesthetic, but that brings up fond memories of both TFA and that final Reaching the Omega Point comic from BotCon 2000, so I couldn't be more pleased.

I've fallen waaaaaaay behind on every stretch of IDW, but I'll definitely pick up every issue of this on sight!
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby o.supreme » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:44 pm

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As much as I disliked IDW overall, with few exceptions, I actually liked the BW Gathering/Ascending series. It showed you could do something new with those characters, and not worry about having to "mess up" the original series. I'm hoping all that we've seen so far is just specialized cover art, because it all looks horrible IMHO. Hopefully they can tell an interesting story.

Still I'd much rather get a new series based on Car Robots/RiD. I know probably nobody is asking for it, but it is the one continuity we've had the least of. I'd like to see more of it.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

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I predict that Dinobot won't be a Maximal for a long time.
The art style is exaggerated,but doesn't have that consistency that Animated has.I will give it a chance when we have the comics to check.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby ScottyP » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:19 pm

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So very pleased to see Josh Burcham finally get a gig as the main artist on a book. Fully deserved! Really excited for this comic, the Nightscream-looking character already seems fun.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Oct 09, 2020 9:15 pm

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ScottyP wrote:the Nightscream-looking character already seems fun.
Yeah, her name's Nyx. She's based on the old Bat Optimus Primal figure with her name also evoking that figure's redeco Onyx Primal (in addition to its obvious Greek Mythology origin).
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Ultra Markus » Fri Oct 09, 2020 11:28 pm

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im thinking more like Beastwars Animated ;)
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:10 am

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Well the art is underwhelming for sure. I never cared for Senior's style so I hope this is the length of his involvement. If Burcham draws in similar style, I'll be hard pressed to get into this. If the story is really good, I could get past it. But as it is, I gotta Randy Jackson this one.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Rodimus Knight » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:27 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the art is underwhelming for sure. I never cared for Senior's style so I hope this is the length of his involvement. If Burcham draws in similar style, I'll be hard pressed to get into this. If the story is really good, I could get past it. But as it is, I gotta Randy Jackson this one.


I'm not a fan of that style of art. I don't think I'll pick it up if that's the interior art.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:48 am

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Ultra Markus wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Great... Beast Wars GO! >:oP

im thinking more like Beastwars Animated ;)



I wish I could be that optimistic.

Literally most of the buzzwords used have irked me, in fact. My immediate thought was Teen Titans GO!, Thundercats ROAR! etc Completely tone deaf bastardisations. Nothing more than milking license recognition.
A more apt TF comparison that came to mind was the Japanese dub on the Mainframe Beast Wars.
That is not a positive comparison to have, either.

Already "adding" a Bat Fembot needlessly brings to make all those "new" identical generic token characters, that flooded the tail end of IDWverse. Beast Wars has several Fembots, ready to go. Scores of unused characters too. But of course this is just about capitalising on the anniversary.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:11 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the art is underwhelming for sure. I never cared for Senior's style so I hope this is the length of his involvement.
Senior? Geoff Senior has nothing to do with this series.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:14 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Well the art is underwhelming for sure. I never cared for Senior's style so I hope this is the length of his involvement.
Senior? Geoff Senior has nothing to do with this series.



The art bares a strong influence.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby bluecatcinema » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:34 pm

Now this is interesting. Funny how they introduced a new character who turns into a bat, when they already had Nightscream in the canon.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby partholon » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:36 pm

nah pass from me.

im not a fan of josh's style ,though i DO think the lad should have a shot at a series as he's more than done his dues over the years, so good look to him.

never heard of the writer but i see IDW is back at it gender politics thing again so that doeesnt bode well.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:36 pm

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bluecatcinema wrote:Now this is interesting. Funny how they introduced a new character who turns into a bat, when they already had Nightscream in the canon.
This is a different continuity from the cartoon. And Nightscream's not the only bat Maximal. There's Sonar, who was already female too.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby bluecatcinema » Sat Oct 10, 2020 12:47 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
bluecatcinema wrote:Now this is interesting. Funny how they introduced a new character who turns into a bat, when they already had Nightscream in the canon.
This is a different continuity from the cartoon.


That doesn't mean Nightscream doesn't exist. He was living on Cybertron before the Beast Wars began.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:29 pm

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partholon wrote:nah pass from me.

im not a fan of josh's style ,though i DO think the lad should have a shot at a series as he's more than done his dues over the years, so good look to him.

never heard of the writer but i see IDW is back at it gender politics thing again so that doeesnt bode well.

The writer is behind last years Ghostbusters x Transformers comic series (which was brilliant) and also works on IDW Ghostbusters.

As to those bemoaning the new character, they just put the first bat Transformer toy back into the line with doubling up on primal, what's wrong with that? ;)
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:18 pm

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partholon wrote:never heard of the writer but i see IDW is back at it gender politics thing again so that doeesnt bode well.
Oh no, it's a GIRL in our BOYS TOYS comic book! The horror! >:oP
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Oct 11, 2020 2:34 pm

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Really excited for this new series. Finally, a new beast series with them as the actual main characters. Excite!

Burnham has done a great job with Ghostbusters, so I have confidence he can write a great story, glad to see we're getting more of his fiction.

Glad to see Burcham finally getting his own comic interior art. I love his art so much, and it's long overdue for him to be the main artist.

Excited to see what they do with Nyx AKA the new bat girl. Hopefully they do better than Rubble in the ongoing.

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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby william-james88 » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:21 pm

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All kinds of excitement on this, next year is looking to be a great year.


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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:24 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Excited to see what they do with Nyx AKA the new bat girl. Hopefully they do better than Rubble in the ongoing.


:shock:

That's why this character exists, isn't it!?! A lousy 4th wall breaking pun to the audience #-o

Meanwhile, the other thing which is off with that artwork is they clearly don't get Maximals and Predacons are distant future Cybertronians. They aren't blocky and angular anymore. They are all streamlined with curved edges. Far more advanced than Autobots and Decepticons in build and design.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:31 am

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D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Excited to see what they do with Nyx AKA the new bat girl. Hopefully they do better than Rubble in the ongoing.


:shock:

That's why this character exists, isn't it!?! A lousy 4th wall breaking pun to the audience #-o
You do know that Sonar is a bat girl too, right?

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Meanwhile, the other thing which is off with that artwork is they clearly don't get Maximals and Predacons are distant future Cybertronians. They aren't blocky and angular anymore. They are all streamlined with curved edges. Far more advanced than Autobots and Decepticons in build and design.
Uhh...



Lots of blocky Maximals on Cybertron, there.
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Re: New IDW Beast Wars comic series

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:50 am

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Sabrblade wrote:You do know that Sonar is a bat girl too, right?


Yes. I am well versed in Beast Wars. I also know
(1) Sonar doesn't look like that. Sonar has a unique and interesting design. Not just a generic with wing kibble and a bat head on her chest.
(2) Sonar was not a first generation Maximal Fembot. Airazor was. The character who actually does belong there.
But neither of those character designs can be adapted, Blackarachnia-style. Not to cater to the target audience, at least.

Sabrblade wrote:Uhh...
Lots of blocky Maximals on Cybertron, there.


No :HEADHURTS: Those are recycled CGI models. Specifically from The Agenda. Generics with no name or standing, used to pad out a scene. Not indicative of Maximal and Predacon form, established prior to Beast Wars.

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