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I think I may need to paint on that handlebar 'stache he has in Stunticon Job..

Va'al wrote:I've been thinking about this pretty much since we first saw images: can Blackjack's weapon be used as a sword hilt for Menasor, or are there no attachment ports?

I imagine that if there are none, it wouldn't be too hard to drill a 5mm hole into Blackjack's weapn there. Depending on how that works, that might decide whether or not I actually get him. What with the recent pics of MM in torso mode without him, I'll probably end up skipping him.

fantastic. i USED to like that head sculpt.

Well, I'm looking forward to Menasor, but if he doesn't look quite right then I think each Stunticon separately in robot mode will work just fine.

This mold is so much better as Motormaster than Prime. The lunky arms just don't well work on Prime.

Before someone points it out ... I mistransformed the backside panel. I forgot that it was supposed to attach to his back and I ended up doing it like a butt panel like Magnus instead. Oops!

Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

I got them from Entertainment Earth.

What is a Transformers team leader without its team, though, really? We've brought you Superion and Silverbolt, Optimus and Ultra Prime and we've caught a glimpse of Menasor with Motormaster - but to make sure we're fully up to speed, here are the galleries for the entire first wave of deluxes of Generations Combiner Wars!

In the galleries below you'll be able to take in the Aerialbot might of jets Skydive in his black and red deco with golden highlights, and of Firefly in red and white and teal, of the omnipresent Alpha Bravo, helicopter in orange, white, teal and black (potentially a Defensor limb, too) and the devious speed of yellow and purple Stunticon Dragstrip. Each with their own weapon, gestalt hand/foot and compatible with any Voyager torso. Click on any image to view the full works!


Generations Combiner Wars Dragstrip








Generations Combiner Wars Skydive








Generations Combiner Wars Firefly








Generations Combiner Wars Alpha Bravo

I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings. But Hasbro Silverbolt seems to sport a more vintage toy accurate deco. (gold stripe on plane and black shoulders) And with Takara, it seems to be the other way around. Takara's Silverbolt is more G1 cartoon accurate but the Takara jet limbs sport more vintage toy accurate decos on their wings. With that being said, Ill probably have no choice to buy both to get a completely cartoon accurate Superion. Stupid gift sets, wish they would just sell them separate.

welcometothedarksyde wrote:

I love that Face.

Rated X wrote:I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings.

Are you sure? Skydive had lightning bolts on his wings in the cartoon, which the Takara figure has while the Hasbro figure doesn't. Though the G1 toy had them too, this just makes Takara's version both show- and toy-accurate while Hasbro is accurate to neither.

And Fireflight's cartoon model used its toy's blue and yellow wing stripes, but made them thinner. Hasbro's Firefly uses the toy-accurate thick stripes while Takara's Firebolt uses the show-accurate thin stripes.

And though they're not shown in these galleries, Hasbro's Air Raid uses the G1 toy's silver/red/yellow wing stripes while Takara's Air Rider uses the show model's simiplified solid white stripes.

Takara's are definitely the more show-accurate in regards to wing decos.

Finally some decent pics of CW Motormaster in vehicle mode! And it seems that my fears were realized and that the official pics did not suffer from some strange photoshopping. The back part of his cab is a different color than the rest of him. Honestly, he'd look better if all of him was that color instead of what the majority of him is in that cheap grey plastic. The darker metallic grey is much nicer, but looks out of place used like this. Here's hoping the Takara version has a nicer, more cohesive color scheme because it looks like I'm going import when if comes to Combiner Wars.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rated X wrote:I notice the Hasbro jet limbs sport more G1 cartoon accurate decos on their wings.

Are you sure? Skydive had lightning bolts on his wings in the cartoon, which the Takara figure has while the Hasbro figure doesn't. Though the G1 toy had them too, this just makes Takara's version both show- and toy-accurate while Hasbro is accurate to neither.

And Fireflight's cartoon model used its toy's blue and yellow wing stripes, but made them thinner. Hasbro's Firefly uses the toy-accurate thick stripes while Takara's Firebolt uses the show-accurate thin stripes.

And though they're not shown in these galleries, Hasbro's Air Raid uses the G1 toy's silver/red/yellow wing stripes while Takara's Air Rider uses the show model's simiplified solid white stripes.

Takara's are definitely the more show-accurate in regards to wing decos.

Im kinda going off memory of the G1 cartoon. Its not easy to find images of the alt mode cartoon images online. I dont think skydive had any blue on his tail in the cartoon like the takara version has. But the toy had some blue on the tail. That was the biggest eye grabber that made me think the takara limbs were more toy accurate. Not sure about fireflight. Were still awaiting the hasbro slingshot images.

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

Oooh. That's a good point. It would be nice to see an anime accurate set of the Stunticons like they're doing with the Aerialbots. Oooh.

Autobot032 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Rated X wrote:Well this version of the mold looks a lot better than fake windows Prime. But why is the truck grey instead of black ? Is there no way to give it a G1 accurate truck paintjob without sacrificing G1 accuracy in robot mode ?

Also how are you getting these in hand so super early ? Are you paying crazy ebay prices from factory insiders ? Or are these promotional figures directly from Hasbro ?

Maybe the Tomy/Takara version will be anime accurate?

Oooh. That's a good point. It would be nice to see an anime accurate set of the Stunticons like they're doing with the Aerialbots. Oooh.

One more thing, is it okay to speculate that there will be a Wildrider version for the Tomy version instead of the pickup truck? Tomy remolded a face for Slingshot, but Wildrider, an entirely new mold?

I might be getting too far ahead of myself but since the issue of "anime" accuracy has been raised.............

fenrir72 wrote:One more thing, is it okay to speculate that there will be a Wildrider version for the Tomy version instead of the pickup truck? Tomy remolded a face for Slingshot, but Wildrider, an entirely new mold?

Nope, if Slingshot is any indication:

1) We have a TRU listing for him
2) He's a retool of an existing non-retooled mold (Skydive and Air Raid share parts)

... we may see Wildrider as a retool of either Breakdown or Dead End.

nice, I am surprised there were no shots of Menasor without Blackjack. I am interested in the "closed chest" detail

grimdragon2001 wrote:nice, I am surprised there were no shots of Menasor without Blackjack. I am interested in the "closed chest" detail

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:One more thing, is it okay to speculate that there will be a Wildrider version for the Tomy version instead of the pickup truck? Tomy remolded a face for Slingshot, but Wildrider, an entirely new mold?

Nope, if Slingshot is any indication:

1) We have a TRU listing for him
2) He's a retool of an existing non-retooled mold (Skydive and Air Raid share parts)

... we may see Wildrider as a retool of either Breakdown or Dead End.

just a thought....
CW streetwise was "confirmed" as a new mold. the takara wildrider could be a retool of him, thus giving four completely different car limbs.

robotmel wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:nice, I am surprised there were no shots of Menasor without Blackjack. I am interested in the "closed chest" detail

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nice, that looks pretty good, thanks

The following galleries have been updated:

• Powerglide now includes images with the other Aerialbots
• Blackjack includes images with Dragstrip and Motormaster as well as images of his card.
• Huffer now includes images of his card.
• Silverbolt now includes images with the other Aerialbots

While the Optimus Prime is an easy pass for me, I am looking forward to getting Motor Master. I'm not in a huge rush and can wait for retail release.

robotmel wrote:

grimdragon2001 wrote:nice, I am surprised there were no shots of Menasor without Blackjack. I am interested in the "closed chest" detail

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That settles it for me. Blackjack can take a running jump, he looks so much better with a closed chest. Downward horns look good too!