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MightyMagnus78 wrote:I personally think they look awful. They seem way to top heavy, I can imagine they will full over backwards when you try to display them. I also don't like the way Ironhide's chest is black, I think it would look a hundred times better if it were red.

While this color scheme makes him cartoon-accurate like Ratchet, your all-red-torso idea would be more comic-accurate according to Ironhide's TFU illustration. So while I'm sure a fully transforming upgrade or all new figure accurate to the cartoon will happen someday, if they do a repaint of these molds (and these companies usually do if at all possible) I'd be much more interested. While there may not be as much demand for comic-colors Ironhide, they'd be quite justified in doing a comic accurate Ratchet, since he's one of the few early Autobots whose Marvel persona had 10 times more character and depth than his cartoon counterpart, instead of the other way around. They tried to give his head the red-helmet+white-face-and-boomerang look on his Universe 2.0 SUV toy, but managed to get it backwards, so as far as I'm concerned, Ratchet's proper color scheme has gotten no toy love to this day. I don't have either of their original toys, so I'm tepid about this upgrade too, but do the comic repaints and I'm sold. I

Actually, I'm hoping we someday get a Masterpiece Ironhide that can deploy every pop-out weapon and gadget he ever used in the cartoon. Sculpt a Ratchet head, and they could do almost as many repaints of it as MP Starscream.

FINALLY! FINALLY!
Question: what happens to the arms of the original toys?

Bumblevivisector wrote:Actually, I'm hoping we someday get a Masterpiece Ironhide that can deploy every pop-out weapon and gadget he ever used in the cartoon. Sculpt a Ratchet head, and they could do almost as many repaints of it as MP Starscream.

DO THIS! A thousand times DO THIS! I would buy atleast three!

Jizaitoys had an interesting Ironhide transformation that incorporated the whole van.

http://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/category/4822805-1.html

SentinelA wrote:FINALLY! FINALLY!
Question: what happens to the arms of the original toys?

It's kinda of hard to tell from the pic, but it looks like they just kind of fold to the back. I don't have my figures handy to see exactly how they fold back but you can kind of see them back there in the pic. Kinda tricking how they staged the photo to show as much as they can from the front and sides but not show too much of the back.

Stormrider wrote:Jizaitoys had an interesting Ironhide transformation that incorporated the whole van.

http://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/category/4822805-1.html

Most of us will only be able to own that as an image file

I wonder how it would look on the Protect Black Ironhide.

Woah!I just got a reissue Ratchet on clearence for like RM26.Thats like $7. .Too bad I won't be able to get this set.

cool........I will get Ratchet and Ironhide for sure now.before these there was absolutely no reason to get them......

I never could get the order form to work so I just emailed them and sent me an invoice through Paypal. I also emailed BBTS to see if they plan on stocking these, but haven't received a response yet. One good thing is these aren't a pre-order they are in stock and ready to ship.

JokerFC wrote:cool........I will get Ratchet and Ironhide for sure now.before these there was absolutely no reason to get them......

Except for the fact that they were, you know, G1 Ratchet and Ironhide.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

JokerFC wrote:cool........I will get Ratchet and Ironhide for sure now.before these there was absolutely no reason to get them......

Except for the fact that they were, you know, G1 Ratchet and Ironhide.

not for me.they were so drastically different from what I know from the comics/toon I couldnt even take to them as a kid......never mind as an adult collector.

but now?they are a must buy for me.