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Agamemnon wrote:I wonder if he's going to come with a saw fist....

That's what I'm wondering too. I hope he comes with a few accessories and not just his blaster rifle. The saw would be awesome.

"You are mistaken there bruv. The window doesn't cover up a portion of the front of the hot rod vehicle, that is a totaly different front end alltogether, the widow is also a totaly different shape. I see where you are coming from. The parts are so similar that they could be reused, but they have gone all out to make sure the proportions are exact, so that instead of using the front of hot rod, they have a whole other transformation and other parts to make that end up."

no the window is the same the roof slides over the window to shorten it the front bumper transforms some how to give the front end a new look but the middle part of the hood some how folds and the window gets pushed down or lifts over that part of the hood that contains the engine

I'm wondering if/when Hasbro releases this, do they release it as MP Rodimus or as MP Hot Rod to save cost? Clearly the trailer isn't necessary to Hot Rod so they could keep this cheap in the US by just marketing him as a one mode figure.

MP Hot Rodimus.

As posted in a previous thread - here is a possible virtual transformation of the figure: http://jizaitoys.seesaa.net/

Also note worthy is a virtual transformation of Galvatron, which is likely just fanbased - but it does present an interesting concept.

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm wondering if/when Hasbro releases this, do they release it as MP Rodimus or as MP Hot Rod to save cost? Clearly the trailer isn't necessary to Hot Rod so they could keep this cheap in the US by just marketing him as a one mode figure.

They'd never market him as MP Hot Rod simply because of legal reasons. They no longer own the name Hot Rod. They haven't for some time as far as I'm aware. He'll probably be Rodimus regardless of what form he comes in.

And just out of interest, why would you not want the trailer unit? I know it's not an amazingly exciting piece, but it is part of Rodimus Prime.

Sodan-1 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm wondering if/when Hasbro releases this, do they release it as MP Rodimus or as MP Hot Rod to save cost? Clearly the trailer isn't necessary to Hot Rod so they could keep this cheap in the US by just marketing him as a one mode figure.

They'd never market him as MP Hot Rod simply because of legal reasons. They no longer own the name Hot Rod. They haven't for some time as far as I'm aware. He'll probably be Rodimus regardless of what form he comes in.

And just out of interest, why would you not want the trailer unit? I know it's not an amazingly exciting piece, but it is part of Rodimus Prime.

It's not that people wouldn't want the trailer. It's that the figure would be cheaper without the trailer. And I don't think he was saying they would call the figure MP Hot Rod. It was just to differentiate between the two. Would they release Rodimus Prime with trailer. Or just the figure that transforms into the Hot Rod Alt mode.

Sodan-1 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm wondering if/when Hasbro releases this, do they release it as MP Rodimus or as MP Hot Rod to save cost? Clearly the trailer isn't necessary to Hot Rod so they could keep this cheap in the US by just marketing him as a one mode figure.

They'd never market him as MP Hot Rod simply because of legal reasons. They no longer own the name Hot Rod. They haven't for some time as far as I'm aware. He'll probably be Rodimus regardless of what form he comes in.

And just out of interest, why would you not want the trailer unit? I know it's not an amazingly exciting piece, but it is part of Rodimus Prime.

Where did say I didn't want the trailer?

The only reason I'm speculating this is because the Prime trailer never saw the light of day here-could be the case with this this if Hasbro chose to go that route.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:I wonder if he's going to come with a saw fist....

That's what I'm wondering too. I hope he comes with a few accessories and not just his blaster rifle. The saw would be awesome.

So, how many are you buying? Two at least, right???

I want it does anybody know how much it's going to cost

tigertracks 24 wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:I wonder if he's going to come with a saw fist....

That's what I'm wondering too. I hope he comes with a few accessories and not just his blaster rifle. The saw would be awesome.

So, how many are you buying? Two at least, right???

I just put in my 2nd preorder this morning. Ideally, I would like at least 3

BIGBOTSYSTEM wrote:I want it does anybody know how much it's going to cost

$199.99 on BBTS, but that may get lowered slightly.

Another picture from the show from fan GENgoraw's Twitter-nice close up:

DevastaTTor wrote:Another picture from the show from fan GENgoraw's Twitter-nice close up:

The colors, to me, look a little off. Nice looking figure, and not a deal breaker, but they seem too... bright!

The more i seem the more want it, Finally a figure that is both HotRod & Rodimus Prime. I better start saving now i can just imagine how much hes gonna cost.

DevastaTTor wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:I'm wondering if/when Hasbro releases this, do they release it as MP Rodimus or as MP Hot Rod to save cost? Clearly the trailer isn't necessary to Hot Rod so they could keep this cheap in the US by just marketing him as a one mode figure.

They'd never market him as MP Hot Rod simply because of legal reasons. They no longer own the name Hot Rod. They haven't for some time as far as I'm aware. He'll probably be Rodimus regardless of what form he comes in.

And just out of interest, why would you not want the trailer unit? I know it's not an amazingly exciting piece, but it is part of Rodimus Prime.

Where did say I didn't want the trailer?

The only reason I'm speculating this is because the Prime trailer never saw the light of day here-could be the case with this this if Hasbro chose to go that route.

Apologies for my incorrect interpretation of what you said.

tigertracks 24 wrote:

DevastaTTor wrote:Another picture from the show from fan GENgoraw's Twitter-nice close up:

The colors, to me, look a little off. Nice looking figure, and not a deal breaker, but they seem too... bright!

Now...let's see the matrix. We know it's hiding under that chest plate!

In case people are still confused...

1.) Yes, he's both Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime.

2.) To create Rodimus, he extends his legs at both the knees and the thighs, the face changes, the wing tips fold in toward each other a bit, and it looks as though the shoulders move up a tad.

3.) To create Rodimus Prime's vehicle mode, you pull a flap down and around to the front section, from the bottom of the trailer, this is the windshield and hood of Prime's vehicle mode.

You take Hot Rod, rotate his spoiler wing so it's facing backward, and you push him under the trailer, backward.

The hood/windshield piece slides back under Rod's wing and above the Hot Rod vehicle tail (very small space to work with, I think this could be one of the more difficult parts to the transformation), and then snap it in place and you're done. (The holes on Hot Rod's roof is where the Rodimus piece fastens and secures itself.)

So, in case you're wondering: Yes, this Masterpiece figure is both Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime in both vehicle mode and robot mode. To create Rodimus, however, he's basically a shell former with a large cheat to his transformation. Cheat or not, they pulled off a miracle, honestly, and he looks good.

I just want the most affordable price for the guy. I want to order from BBTS, but that $200.00 price tag is pretty high, especially when I see that his price could be around the $150.00 mark.

It's beeeeeaaaaauuuuuutttttiiiiiffffffuuuuuulllllllll.............................

Get on it, Hasbro! Get on it like fleas are on a dog!!!

I'll have to start saving up for him. He's pure awesomesauce.

I like the Hot Rod face better. But the ability to have both is just incredibly cool.

200 does seems little steep, considering you'd have to put shipping costs on top of that, but 150 not too bad.

The difference between bots is so subtle it's barely noticeable. I'll have to see a price tag to make my choice.

Convotron wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

DTR69 wrote:LOOK AT THE HEAD, THE HELMET IS NOT PART OF THE FACE - INDICATING A FACE CHANGE GIMMICK - I'M 100% SURE IT'S TO CHANGE TO A YOUNG HOT ROD FACE. THE LOWER LEGS LOOK LIKE THEY CHANGE TOO. IF HE WAS SHORTER WITH A YOUNG FACE THAT WOULD MAKE A HOT ROD. THE WHEELS IN THE SHOULDER ARE NOT THE FRONT WHEELS, THE FRONT WHEELS ARE IN HIS LOWER LEGS AS THE SHOLDER PORTION IS ONE PIECE, LOOK AT THE VEHICLE MODE THERE IS CLEARLY A SPLIT JUST AFTER THE FRONT WHEEL ARCH. AND THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE MODE IS ON HS BACK. SO THE SECOND SET OF WHEELS ARE EITHER FOR DECORATION - OR A HOT ROD VEHICLE MODE.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION!!!!

Sorry, anytime I see all caps it makes me think someone is yelling in frustration. I'll be very interested to see more pictures and see if he turns out to be a triple/quad changer.

Maybe he suffers from the typing equivalent of Van Horton's Syndrome.

No, actually I was starting to get to the same point of frustration as well. I'm sure by now someone else has already said it but I just don't have the time to go through all the pages of posts to confirm that it was said, but I'll not only say that I agree with Convotron's summation but also add, for those that think the spoiler issue is a mis-transformation, it is necessary to slide it that far back as it locks into the trailer portion. The necessary points for it to connect can be seen in the prototype pics. if you get your orientation correct on how things are placed, and having the spoiler raise and slide backwards is part of how they chose to connect his components.
Piss-poor design choice if you ask me but hey, it's Hasbro. If it wasn't a design issue then they were going to have to come up with some other way of making this figure not quite right and they would have gotten WAY to much heat from the fans if they had chosen to screw up the paint job instead.

I am wondering about the scale. Do you think the bot mode is roughly (or maybe a little taller) than PP01 Faith Leader Optimus?

I figure when he is Hot Rod, he can interact with my MP-04 prime. When he is Rodimus, he can interact with PP01 Optimus. That is how I can pretend his Rodimus bot mode is indeed much larger.

What do you all think? I don't have PP01, but it looks like now I may have to get one.

This is the greatest Transformers toy ever! And that it's Rodimus Prime is all the sweeter!

I really dig that Hot Rod face. Wasn't feeling the Rodimus Prime version so much. It wasn't a deal breaker or anything but that's a definite plus for me. I do hope he's got a matrix.

manofsteel2397 wrote:"You are mistaken there bruv. The window doesn't cover up a portion of the front of the hot rod vehicle, that is a totaly different front end alltogether, the widow is also a totaly different shape. I see where you are coming from. The parts are so similar that they could be reused, but they have gone all out to make sure the proportions are exact, so that instead of using the front of hot rod, they have a whole other transformation and other parts to make that end up."

no the window is the same the roof slides over the window to shorten it the front bumper transforms some how to give the front end a new look but the middle part of the hood some how folds and the window gets pushed down or lifts over that part of the hood that contains the engine

The front wheels are from rodimus legs hot rods car mode is from the wheels in the shoulder, the front of hot rods car is made from the chest, Hot rods vehicle mode is facing back to front in the trailer. The front bumper is not the same bumper. and the window is shorter, and the side panels are thin on hot rods vehicle and taller in rodimus's vehicle, they are clearly different pieces.

The back wheel arch from HRs car mode makes the front wheel arch for RPs cab, as there is a verticle slit which HRs torbos fold over to make the back of the car, and RPs bumper folds over to make the front of the cab. HRs shoulder have a angled slit and RPs front wheel arches don't have the angled slit they have the verticle slit. HRs front wheel arches have the diagobnal slit so they are not the same arch. Which means that the front umper would not be able to connect to the arches that are at the front of RPs cab mode.