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Postby TheMuffin » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:35 pm

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Sort of a pain in the ass for a toy ain't it? Why they couldn't take 3 second to apply some type of paint is beyond me. Far as I'm concerned Takara screws up just as much as Hasbro anymore.
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Postby Powermaster Jazz » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:36 pm

I've noticed it on mine weeks ago. Face it, there's a reason why die-cast sucks. This is it.
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Postby darth reven » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:44 pm

megatron you dont know what hit u
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Postby Supreme Convoy » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:50 pm

WHAT???

Man, good to know in advance before buying. I was thinking about getting this guy. At least I know how to keep him nice.
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Postby Collector Maximus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:00 am

Mine seemed a little spotty but I wiped it with my shirt and it seemed to shine up pretty good. Maybe mines just not there yet.
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Postby timothyvernon » Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:59 am

this is ridiculous.. take better care of your ****. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.
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Postby Sid Burn » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:13 am

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timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your ****. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.


Easy tiger, no need to jump on everyone. This isnt an isolated thing, many posters have reported the cosmic rust.
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Postby WingZero » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:40 am

Hey ya guys, just checked mine aswell and it is infected (thanks for the heads up). In addition, the metal parts forming the spine of mine Megatron appear to show rusted spots aswell, so I can only say everybody check your favorite mech (cause it would be a shame if he has to be reformatted in Galvatron in such short notice right)

edit: Just removed the rust using an anti rusting agent so to say and luckely the rust was shallow and subsequently I coated it with WD40 that should do the trick
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Postby the purifyer » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:57 am

Mine hasn't rusted yet but it looks like it's starting to :S
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Postby Toyotus Superion » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:57 am

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I was thinking about the weird rust problem again today. I keep mine in gun mode, so there was no rust. But anyway, It struck me that these are probably shipped by boat, and sea air does horrible horrible things to metals.

Also, I spoke to my uncle, a watch repairer. He says that you can remove the rust with vinegar by just rubbing it onto the rusted part. But after the rust is removed, dry and wipe away any vinegar because vinegar is acidic.

And then YOU MUST CLEARCOAT THE METAL.

Like one of the guys said, Tamiya brand is excellent, but auto clear coat should work just fine. Let the part dry overnight.

He also said if we want to avoid rusting, dust more often. That might be why some of you guys are getting rust (he is in robot form, so his feet are exposed) and I dont have any (he is in gun mode)
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Postby Toyotus Superion » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:58 am

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Sid Burn wrote:
timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your ****. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.


Easy tiger, no need to jump on everyone. This isnt an isolated thing, many posters have reported the cosmic rust.


Yeah, that was an unnecessary burn. Im sure most of the guys here take good care of their stuff. Otherwise, they wouldnt collect em.
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Postby Ddave » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:08 am

Mine is shinny as new.

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Postby neliz » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:28 am

I don't think the sea is the problem. China uses a kind of nerve gas to treat the wooden pallets where most stuff is stacked on.

This gas penetrates plastics easily and thus could cause that affect as well.
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Postby hinomars19 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:45 am

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TheMuffin wrote:Sort of a pain in the ass for a toy ain't it? Why they couldn't take 3 second to apply some type of paint is beyond me. Far as I'm concerned Takara screws up just as much as Hasbro anymore.


The quality of him is seriously underdone, especially when compared to prime. But prime aside, megs is definrtly lack luster in may places when there really doesn't sem any need fir it.
no rust on mine yet, but loose jointing on the cannon arm and the fact that the device meant to hold the lower and upper body together never really survives the figure being so much as picked up is really unfirgivable. If he's meant to just stand there, why not just make a statue, eh?
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Postby Craven Knight » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:48 am

Just checked my Megs, and while it's not full blown rust there is some tiny little vains on discolouration - so the process of rust is starting.

I'll put him on the shelf next to Perceptor.. that should solve the problem :-?

Nah, I'll just nick a can of CRC from work :D
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Postby Dead Metal » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:27 am

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Postby General Magnus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:04 am

Mine had some brown points. Used a little vinager to cleas. Is as good as new :grin:
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Postby General Magnus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:16 am

will finger nail polisher be anyggod?
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:49 am

General Magnus wrote:will finger nail polisher be anyggod?


Fingernail polish remover might be a little too abraisive... Vinegar is a prefered Method... the WD-40 works, the only issue is that you may want to use it, or any other cleaner for that matter, sparingly so as to not discolor the metal any...

Also Apply the WD-40 to a RAG first!!! Then wipe gently

Tamiya clear coat is the best, but I never thought about using automotive clearcoats on him...that is kind of a harsh substance and I don't want anykind of breakage or metal problems down the road..

Most of Citadel Miniatures, like WarHammer, and LOTR, are painted by my resident friend and "Professional" Rob.... He clear coats all of them with a fine thin layer after he paints them, and trust me, he knows what he's doing...

Just be careful what you use to clean it with, and not to use too much..you don't want a discolored foot for any reason..

Heck, I say just Clear coat all the Masterpieces!!!

Optimus should be fine for the most part, but I would apply clear coat just in case to make sure he's in great shape for the years to come, and also to keep from getting paint chipping, if your scared to do it, have a local comic shop warhammer guy do it, they excell at that sort of thing..My friend Rob said he'd tape the windows up and Airbrush a clear coat evenly over my Prime for free!!! :grin:
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Postby neliz » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:53 am

I think he ment clear nail polish as a "protective" the polish being the coating itself..

It'd say *NO!*

fek.. this stuff is bad for your nails.. it will be worse for chrome..
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Postby 0ctane » Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:59 am

wow, to think that so many people are suffering with the same thing :-( thanks for all the advice guys.

would anyone be kind enough to explain how to remove the feet from the body because all i see are small pins, whats the best way to remove them? I don't have any experience with this type of thing.

also does rust spread to other diecast models? (just a little worried about my 20th op and G1 figs) need to go get some of that clearcoat stuff too.

jeez this is not the type of hassle i need while moving house, its stressful enough as it is...
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:09 am

Wow, and without a return policy for these, I'd have to say this is the best worst Transformer ever!
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Postby Counterpunch » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:12 am

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TheMuffin wrote:Sort of a pain in the ass for a toy ain't it? Why they couldn't take 3 second to apply some type of paint is beyond me. Far as I'm concerned Takara screws up just as much as Hasbro anymore.


Co-sign.

timothyvernon wrote:this is ridiculous.. take better care of your ****. i've had mine since they released it in japan and mine is in perfect condition.


When this material fault in the toy starts to affect yours as well and you go searching for this thread or looking for answers as to how to deal with the problem,..

Please, don't hesitate to ask someone else first.

Because I for one, won't give a damn.
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Postby Liege Evilmus » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:13 am

Toyotus Superion wrote:
Bonger wrote:Also, rust needs moisture, does it not? This sounds odd. Hurry with the pics, I wanna see this!


Of course. Moister is what mixes with air to cause the oxidization of metals. Though I didnt think chromed metals could rust, unless, the chrome has cracked or peeled away, revealing the gooey center.....mmmmm.....candy.......


Just because something is chromed doesn't mean the metal undernieth can't rust and beither bleed through or cause the coating to flake. I've seen plenty of bike and bumper parts go this way!
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Postby skywarp-2 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:14 am

Liege Evilmus wrote:Wow, and without a return policy for these, I'd have to say this is the best worst Transformer ever!



Not really, i still love my Megatron, it's just a minor challenge that needs to be done, that's all.....

ok attention:
Go to the Tamiya website linked below..

Scroll Down and read the section on Clear coat!!! it's a great eye opener for you guys...And you'll like what it says...

http://tamiyausa.com/articles/feature.php?article-id=35

they give all sorts of paint advice..
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