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Postby Tyrannacon » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:56 pm

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Hopefully they've taken the constructive criticisms put forth by the fandom for the series and improved upon both series. I really don't want something as disappointing again.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sarahthecutevixen » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:56 pm

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I am mentally preparing for further damage to my psyche do to the characters making me wish for their agonizing demise. Hell I still want to see that version of windblade torn apart by energon bullhooks wielded to the wall and her spark ripped out of her body and crushed before her eyes in front of a giant mirror so she may watch herself die. but i would settle for character development that makes her likeable i guess
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:02 pm

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I just realised that the problem I have with this Windblade is the exact same problem I have with Live-action Optimus - a generally diplomatic Autobot who wants only peace but will fight as a last resort to protect what is important to them - all of which are interesting and likeable traits if done right; and have been enough to make G1 Optimus an icon and IDW Windblade very good - turned into nothing but a bloodthirsty murderer hellbent on slicing through their enemies' necks.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:09 pm

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o.supreme wrote:They probably saw simply the number of views on Go90, Youtube, and various other sites, and complete ignored comments & feedback.
From what I've seen, most of the praise this CW series received came mainly from the communities of Facebook, and that's a rather LARGE amount of viewers.

'Course, most of the praise came simply from the show's being a G1-style show rather than anything of actual quality (or lack thereof) in the show. Comments like "Oh, it's the Transformers from my childhood finally brought back!" or "G1 lives again!" or "This is WAY better than that stupid RID show!" or "This is how the movies should be!" show just how much of Facebook is home to a fanbase of Geewunners who blinded themselves to any of the show's actual shortcomings all because it used a G1-inspired look (much like how many likewise blind themselves to any of the original G1 cartoon's actual shortcomings, funnily enough).

As long as the Facebook crowd keeps singing blind praises to any garbage product that happens to resemble G1 closely enough, there will always be an audience for more of this foolishness.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Targetmaster Kup » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:26 pm

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Yeah, I would guess it is the 13 Primes coming together, battling each other and then teaming up with their titans and combiners against Unicron. Lots of the comics interviews have said they have avoided Unicron on purpose, but someone has a great idea on how to use him. I am guessing Leader Class Primes, and some other characters in smaller formats.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Bronzewolf » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:36 pm

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Did they....did they read any of the major reviews?! Everything that I read from other sites (although I admit I didn't read much, to try and keep my reviews original and not copypastes.) was negative. Yes there were very definitely positives in the series but really?

I hope they at least consider fixing the biggest issues, or else this'll be a just as bad.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:46 pm

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Bronzewolf wrote:Did they....did they read any of the major reviews?! Everything that I read from other sites (although I admit I didn't read much, to try and keep my reviews original and not copypastes.) was negative. Yes there were very definitely positives in the series but really?
Facebook seemed to LOVE it.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:00 pm

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I watched it weekly with the intent of going back and watching it all together ... I never did that. Because, well ... it got more painful each week.

Maybe with these I'll just wait until all the parts are released, then proceed to continue to ignore them.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sarahthecutevixen » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:21 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Facebook seemed to LOVE it.

Facebook would love a pile of stool if it had eyes, in fact they already do in the form of the poop emoji.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:21 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:'Course, most of the praise came simply from the show's being a G1-style show rather than anything of actual quality


How ironic considering I was just commenting on Youtube yesterday about how unlike the original series CW was. In fact I don't think it could have been any more dissimilar to the original series. Thankfully I'm not on facebook. Probably folks that haven't seen the series since it originally went off the air.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Rysquad » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:29 pm

Sabrblade wrote:TWO sequel series have just been announced: "Titans Return" and "Power of the Primes" - http://www.superherohype.com/news/386613-machinima-and-hasbro-announce-two-more-transformers-prime-wars-series


Does this mean we'll get a Nexus Prime combiner?

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:47 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Probably folks that haven't seen the series since it originally went off the air.
That, and with their best memories of the original series being the uber-violent 1986 movie that had characters dying left and right within its first act.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:01 pm

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Rysquad wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:TWO sequel series have just been announced: "Titans Return" and "Power of the Primes" - http://www.superherohype.com/news/386613-machinima-and-hasbro-announce-two-more-transformers-prime-wars-series


Does this mean we'll get a Nexus Prime combiner?

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No, since the other two series are not combiner-based.

... well, assumedly Power of the Primes isn't combiners. Who knows?
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:08 pm

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Hasbro's probably contractually locked in for a trilogy. Thankfully we're not contractually locked-in to watch these dumpster fires.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby YoungPrime » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:49 pm

Tyrannacon wrote:Hopefully they've taken the constructive criticisms put forth by the fandom for the series and improved upon both series. I really don't want something as disappointing again.


Doubt it since they were too d-bag-ish to even acknowledge the issues.

Maybe it will but I won't be holding my breath except to see the highly anticipated remake of them by Geewun Redone on Youtube.

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:11 pm

“The global fan base has really embraced this vision of the Transformers,” said Machinima CEO Chad Gutstein, “and we are thrilled to be working closely with Hasbro developing the next two installments of the series.”


If this series was aimed at older collectors/fans, and if we can agree that places like Seibertron, YouTube comments under the actual Combiner Wars videos, and other sites, like TFW2005, Allspark, etc are legitimate places for such fans to give their opinions, then it's completely untrue that "the global fan basws really embraced" the festering, half-@rsed dung-heap that this web "series"/episode really was.

Children, arguably, don't count, as it was implied, heavily, that this show was aimed at the older collector/fan. The term "global" doesn't really count, either, as it was geo-blocked in some countries, like Japan, where Transformers arguably CAME FROM.

What the idiots at Hasblow Marketing and the slowly dieing Machinima mistakenly believe is that "millions of YouTube views" equals "popularity". It's the same idiocy that's allowed their marketing department to prostitute the intro countless, disposable, irrelevant P2W mobile games.

Vote with your views, folks. Veto the next shows and episodes. In fact, if possible, we could convince Seibertron, and the other sites to veto news about the episodes when they are released, by not giving links or stories about them. If that were possible, without FORCING them to, how could we do it?

(Swypos and typos due to Seibertron not being mobile friendly)
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:13 pm

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An off the cuff guess...probably a toy line focusing on the 13 primes. Many have never had an official toy representation, this might be Hasbro's way of introducing them. If that were the case though, that would kind of kill, or make very difficult the idea of the next line being beast Themed, what with the hinting of Onyx Prime in the IDW TF comic, aside from a figure of him himself. But a toy line consisting of all, or mostly primes would sure get cumbersome one would think...but who knows.

I was going to point to where I called this on a podcast, but I didn't. It was while hanging out with friends and I was going to run through my thoughts on the next comic only show >< Ah well.

So yeah, as you point out, the IDW books have been putting out some smoke signals that something like this is on the way. There's Onyx as you mentioned, plus A3 who's been around awhile and was on a journey in Metroplex with a map at one point of an as-yet-unresolved story. Nexus is dead but has been mentioned, Micronus is an in-universe thing now, the Camiens descend from Solus, the OP book seems to be hinting at Quintus through covers/solicits, based on the Luna 1 material I'd say Liege Maximo is going to matter for Lost Light, Prima and Megatronus write themselves, Amalgamous can be literally anything, then of course there's OP if they go full bore Aligned and have him be Thirteen. Vector Prime can also come from wherever whenever (how great would it be if he was in a briefcase?), and that just leaves Alchemist who is of course the one I always forget and have to look up.

Phew.

Of course this show will probably make 3/4ths of them dead on arrival, have two just be energy blobs and have like one actual appearance of some Prime that's four seconds long in which said Prime will be super angsty and kill some other character because it'll be garbage. Hopefully Hasbro gives the folks working on it a budget where they can show what they're really capable of.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:22 pm

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In fact, if possible, we could convince Seibertron, and the other sites to veto news about the episodes when they are released, by not giving links or stories about them. If that were possible, without FORCING them to, how could we do it?



Your not actually being serious about this are you?

This is a news site it's their job to report this stuff no matter how bad if we could ignore news then Micheal Bay movie news would not be a thing here.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:22 pm

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primalxconvoy wrote:In fact, if possible, we could convince Seibertron, and the other sites to veto news about the episodes when they are released, by not giving links or stories about them. If that were possible, without FORCING them to, how could we do it?
Sorry, but we'll be covering this to every reasonable extent in the timeliest manner possible (within the real life time constraints of our hard working news team) as it is an official Hasbro Transformers media project.

Put another way, we're still covering Revolution, and that's some bad material. It's officially relevant to the Transformers brand for better or worse though, so in the news cycle it remains.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 6:56 pm

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ScottyP wrote:Put another way, we're still covering Revolution, and that's some bad material. It's officially relevant to the Transformers brand for better or worse though, so in the news cycle it remains.

Fairly certain we covered the Avengers/Transformers crossover. And Revolution is no where near that bad. :-P
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:26 pm

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Burn wrote:
ScottyP wrote:Put another way, we're still covering Revolution, and that's some bad material. It's officially relevant to the Transformers brand for better or worse though, so in the news cycle it remains.

Fairly certain we covered the Avengers/Transformers crossover. And Revolution is no where near that bad. :-P
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby griftimus prime » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:35 pm

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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby primalxconvoy » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:14 pm

Deadput wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
In fact, if possible, we could convince Seibertron, and the other sites to veto news about the episodes when they are released, by not giving links or stories about them. If that were possible, without FORCING them to, how could we do it?



Your not actually being serious about this are you?

This is a news site it's their job to report this stuff no matter how bad if we could ignore news then Micheal Bay movie news would not be a thing here.


I am serious. IF enough people could convince the various news sites, possibly together, to limit or veto the news about these videos, then possibly it would affect viewing figures. One possible solution would be to report tube news, but not provide links to the videos themselves. The news sites are covered, but the videos don't get hotlinked. That's perfectly reasonable, providing enough people voiced their desire for such a method, or similar, to be employed.
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

Postby Burn » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:17 pm

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Not going to happen. You'll find that most sites have long established good relations with Hasbro, suddenly deciding to not run news on a particular subject because "the entire fandom hated it" (which let's be honest, like the movies it's a vocal minority).

Oh and your signature is too large as per our site guidelines. I can fix it for ya if you like but most people don't like what I give them. :-P
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Re: Machinima Transformers Combiner Wars Animated Series Discussion Thread

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